Android Nougat 7.0 may be released on the 22nd August

Everything Goes · 19-08-2016, 20:48

Looks like Android Nougat 7.0 may be released on the 22nd August 2016 and will be available on the Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X. LG are doing a limited Beta on the G5 if you live in South Korea.

As usual most people will have a very long wait or will never see the update unless they want to root their device. If you are lucky enough to get the official update it is unlikely you will see it until Spring 2017.......

http://www.neowin.net/news/android-7...d-on-august-22

https://www.neowin.net/news/lg-takes...program-for-g5

jaffboy151 · 19-08-2016, 21:09

And here in lies the number 1 achilles heel of the android platform..

Everything Goes · 19-08-2016, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaffboy151

And here in lies the number 1 achilles heel of the android platform..

Sad but true. Two years of updates from the device release is the best you can hope for with Android OEMs. Here is a study of OEM updates for recent devices. Even then updates are done on a country by country basis that slows things down and is not reflected in this study.

Don't even mention VoLTE support

Quote:

Android 6.0 Marshmallow was first released October 5, 2015. Updates arrived in two clusters: those that pushed out the update three months after the release and those that waited longer – a little over five months, according to Apteligent.

Motorola tried the update first on a smaller set of devices, such as the Moto X Pure Edition / Moto X Style, for about two months and then rolled it out more widely.
LG took the same approach starting with the LG G4 for about a month, while HTC basically just pushed the release out to all compatible devices from the beginning. Both Samsung and Sony waited over five months before releasing the update to compatible devices. ZTE has released the Android M update to only a small handful of devices starting with the Axon line of devices February 2016.

One of the most common complaints about consumer Android devices is how long it takes to get the latest Android OS update. Slow updates mean that consumers are behind the curve on enjoying new features and performance improvements as well as (more importantly) posing a severe security risk.

In fact the majority of devices are running Lollipop 35.5% while KitKat is 29.2% which will be 3 years old in October. Marshmallow is only on 15.2% and is almost a year old. Dreadful

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08...d_update_risk/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...ribution-news/

Thine Wonk · 19-08-2016, 22:03

Yeah some will look forward to getting this in 2019, this issue, the security updates and the profile settings like VoLTE badly need fixing.

Gigabit · 19-08-2016, 22:19

I just don't understand why Google doesn't make it a requirement to do timely updates if you use Google Play Services...

Aye Up · 20-08-2016, 01:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Yeah some will look forward to getting this in 2019, this issue, the security updates and the profile settings like VoLTE badly need fixing.

This what I find most frustrating with the way Android is left in the hands of the manufacturers. There must be a way for Google to mandate the changes and updates are released in a timely manner. Samsung has improved somewhat and is pushing out security updates every other month, in addition with a couple of new features.

It needs to change, as for VoLTE its easier on MM even then its also down to the networks to shift their arses too.

Still in light of all of this I love my S7.

Doctor_Wibble · 20-08-2016, 02:54

Yes but is it 'noo-gah' or 'noo-gat'? Wars have started over less

Everything Goes · 20-08-2016, 05:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Up

This what I find most frustrating with the way Android is left in the hands of the manufacturers. There must be a way for Google to mandate the changes and updates are released in a timely manner. Samsung has improved somewhat and is pushing out security updates every other month, in addition with a couple of new features.

It needs to change, as for VoLTE its easier on MM even then its also down to the networks to shift their arses too.

Still in light of all of this I love my S7.

Samsung are only doing monthly security updates for the newest devices. As a Galaxy S5 / S4 owner I can assure you that they can't be bothered. I'm sure once the S6 /S7 hit 2 years old the updates will magically cease. Enjoy it while it lasts!

http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-...n-youll-see-it

daveyfs · 20-08-2016, 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble

Yes but is it 'noo-gah' or 'noo-gat'? Wars have started over less

My gran used to call it 'nugget'

gillyallan · 20-08-2016, 08:01

Jeez I only recently got lollipop.
Unlikely I'll get marshmallow. No chance I'll get nougat.

1manonthebog · 20-08-2016, 08:33

I ran DP5 on my Nexus 5x, battery life was worse and it seemed to use more memory as I had launcher reviews. I am hoping the final release has improved performance.

Doctor_Wibble · 20-08-2016, 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveyfs

My gran used to call it 'nugget'

A wise woman* - this is the smart option, at worst you get slated for offending the righteous, but on the other hand you don't have to pick a side, which given 50-50 odds, is 99% guaranteed to be the wrong one, a bit like a USB cable only plugging in properly the third way up that you try.

* One side of my grandparentage would but the other side thought it common!

biggyt · 20-08-2016, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Looks like Android Nougat 7.0 may be released on the 22nd August 2016 and will be available on the Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X. LG are doing a limited Beta on the G5 if you live in South Korea.

As usual most people will have a very long wait or will never see the update unless they want to root their device. If you are lucky enough to get the official update it is unlikely you will see it until Spring 2017.......

http://www.neowin.net/news/android-7...d-on-august-22

https://www.neowin.net/news/lg-takes...program-for-g5

No need to root to flash a factory image, one of the major advantages of owning a Nexus in my opinion

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

Rodney McKay · 21-08-2016, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Up

This what I find most frustrating with the way Android is left in the hands of the manufacturers. There must be a way for Google to mandate the changes and updates are released in a timely manner. Samsung has improved somewhat and is pushing out security updates every other month, in addition with a couple of new features.

It needs to change, as for VoLTE its easier on MM even then its also down to the networks to shift their arses too.

Still in light of all of this I love my S7.

Shows a major flaw in the OS. Especially when you look at how governments and banks are pushing people to use their phones for more and more online stuff like banking, possibly even medical stuff and who knows possibly even voting in the future. I've never used my phone for online banking, I don't consider any Android phone secure enough to trust.

Yet most Android phones are full of security holes and unlikely to ever be patched.

One reason why Windows phones could hold a card here, I must admit getting fed up buying a new Android phone only to find that it never receives any security updates.

Everything Goes · 22-08-2016, 18:26

Android Nougat 7.0 has indeed begun rolling out. However if you own a Nexus 5 (2013) or the tablet Nexus 7 (2013) you can forget it cos its not going to happen, as google have terminated support less than 3 years since they were released. It was still on sale until March 2015 so some people may rightly feel coned. Once again Apple prove to have the best support.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08...-our-goodbyes/

Stiggles · 22-08-2016, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Android Nougat 7.0 has indeed begun rolling out. However if you own a Nexus 5 (2013) or the tablet Nexus 7 (2013) you can forget it cos its not going to happen, as google have terminated support less than 3 years since they were released. It was still on sale until March 2015 so some people may rightly feel coned. Once again Apple prove to have the best support.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08...-our-goodbyes/

True that.

Still wouldn't have one another one though

Denco1 · 22-08-2016, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Android Nougat 7.0 has indeed begun rolling out. However if you own a Nexus 5 (2013) or the tablet Nexus 7 (2013) you can forget it cos its not going to happen, as google have terminated support less than 3 years since they were released. It was still on sale until March 2015 so some people may rightly feel coned. Once again Apple prove to have the best support.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08...-our-goodbyes/

It's been 2yrs and 9 months since release, so not too shabby. Overall there lives they've gone from 4.4>5.0>5.1>6.0, two major updates in the form of Lollipop and Marshmallow.
Anyone who bought it in March 2015 was still likely to have got two updates, 5.1 and 6.0.

jonmorris · 22-08-2016, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble

Yes but is it 'noo-gah' or 'noo-gat'? Wars have started over less

If you're referring to a newly popular image format, it's gif, not gif.

bikerlad · 23-08-2016, 09:05

Updated my Nexus 6P. Just the Lloyds banking app that doesn't work so far.

jonmorris · 23-08-2016, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikerlad

Updated my Nexus 6P. Just the Lloyds banking app that doesn't work so far.

Still? Sheesh.

The My Vodafone app still doesn't work either.

And these companies have had most of the year to get up to speed.

retrodj · 23-08-2016, 11:29

My Galaxy S5 on 3 literally just got updated to Marshmallow a couple of weeks ago and now they bring this version out..

I can't see this being made available for my phone until next year now, if at all lol.

gomezz · 23-08-2016, 11:38

Can you jailbreak Samsung devices to run vanilla Android?

Everything Goes · 23-08-2016, 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by retrodj

My Galaxy S5 on 3 literally just got updated to Marshmallow a couple of weeks ago and now they bring this version out..

I can't see this being made available for my phone until next year now, if at all lol.

It's very unlikely Nougat will be available on the S5. Samsung pretty much kill support 2 years after release and the phone is over 2 years old.

Everything Goes · 23-08-2016, 12:30

Google look like they will be doing Quarterly updates from now on. The networks and OEM's are not going to like that they can barley keep up with annual updates

Quote:

We’re moving Nougat into a new regular maintenance schedule over the coming quarters. In fact, we’ve already started work on the first Nougat maintenance release that will bring continued refinements and polish, and we’re planning to bring that to you this fall as a developer preview. Stay tuned!

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/...-public-betas/

Aye Up · 23-08-2016, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

Can you jailbreak Samsung devices to run vanilla Android?

Yes, enabling root and unlocking of the bootloader allows the installation of custom roms, or in your case vanilla android. Though this would have to be created by rom makers, you can't flash a Nexus based image on a Samsung phone.

19-08-2016, 20:48	#1
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Android Nougat 7.0 may be released on the 22nd August Looks like Android Nougat 7.0 may be released on the 22nd August 2016 and will be available on the Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X. LG are doing a limited Beta on the G5 if you live in South Korea. As usual most people will have a very long wait or will never see the update unless they want to root their device. If you are lucky enough to get the official update it is unlikely you will see it until Spring 2017....... http://www.neowin.net/news/android-7...d-on-august-22 https://www.neowin.net/news/lg-takes...program-for-g5

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19-08-2016, 21:09	#2
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	And here in lies the number 1 achilles heel of the android platform..

19-08-2016, 21:52	#3
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by jaffboy151 And here in lies the number 1 achilles heel of the android platform.. Sad but true. Two years of updates from the device release is the best you can hope for with Android OEMs. Here is a study of OEM updates for recent devices. Even then updates are done on a country by country basis that slows things down and is not reflected in this study. Don't even mention VoLTE support Quote: Android 6.0 Marshmallow was first released October 5, 2015. Updates arrived in two clusters: those that pushed out the update three months after the release and those that waited longer – a little over five months, according to Apteligent. Motorola tried the update first on a smaller set of devices, such as the Moto X Pure Edition / Moto X Style, for about two months and then rolled it out more widely. LG took the same approach starting with the LG G4 for about a month, while HTC basically just pushed the release out to all compatible devices from the beginning. Both Samsung and Sony waited over five months before releasing the update to compatible devices. ZTE has released the Android M update to only a small handful of devices starting with the Axon line of devices February 2016. One of the most common complaints about consumer Android devices is how long it takes to get the latest Android OS update. Slow updates mean that consumers are behind the curve on enjoying new features and performance improvements as well as (more importantly) posing a severe security risk. In fact the majority of devices are running Lollipop 35.5% while KitKat is 29.2% which will be 3 years old in October. Marshmallow is only on 15.2% and is almost a year old. Dreadful http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08...d_update_risk/ http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...ribution-news/

19-08-2016, 22:03	#4
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Yeah some will look forward to getting this in 2019, this issue, the security updates and the profile settings like VoLTE badly need fixing.

19-08-2016, 22:19	#5
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	I just don't understand why Google doesn't make it a requirement to do timely updates if you use Google Play Services...

20-08-2016, 01:10	#6
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Quote: Originally Posted by Thine Wonk Yeah some will look forward to getting this in 2019, this issue, the security updates and the profile settings like VoLTE badly need fixing. This what I find most frustrating with the way Android is left in the hands of the manufacturers. There must be a way for Google to mandate the changes and updates are released in a timely manner. Samsung has improved somewhat and is pushing out security updates every other month, in addition with a couple of new features. It needs to change, as for VoLTE its easier on MM even then its also down to the networks to shift their arses too. Still in light of all of this I love my S7.

20-08-2016, 02:54	#7
Doctor_Wibble Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 10,918	Yes but is it 'noo-gah' or 'noo-gat'? Wars have started over less

20-08-2016, 05:57	#8
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up This what I find most frustrating with the way Android is left in the hands of the manufacturers. There must be a way for Google to mandate the changes and updates are released in a timely manner. Samsung has improved somewhat and is pushing out security updates every other month, in addition with a couple of new features. It needs to change, as for VoLTE its easier on MM even then its also down to the networks to shift their arses too. Still in light of all of this I love my S7. Samsung are only doing monthly security updates for the newest devices. As a Galaxy S5 / S4 owner I can assure you that they can't be bothered. I'm sure once the S6 /S7 hit 2 years old the updates will magically cease. Enjoy it while it lasts! http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-...n-youll-see-it

20-08-2016, 07:37	#9
daveyfs Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Swansea Posts: 871	Quote: Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble Yes but is it 'noo-gah' or 'noo-gat'? Wars have started over less My gran used to call it 'nugget'

20-08-2016, 08:01	#10
gillyallan Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 29,115	Jeez I only recently got lollipop. Unlikely I'll get marshmallow. No chance I'll get nougat.

20-08-2016, 08:33	#11
1manonthebog Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,332	I ran DP5 on my Nexus 5x, battery life was worse and it seemed to use more memory as I had launcher reviews. I am hoping the final release has improved performance.

20-08-2016, 09:33	#12
Doctor_Wibble Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 10,918	Quote: Originally Posted by daveyfs My gran used to call it 'nugget' A wise woman* - this is the smart option, at worst you get slated for offending the righteous, but on the other hand you don't have to pick a side, which given 50-50 odds, is 99% guaranteed to be the wrong one, a bit like a USB cable only plugging in properly the third way up that you try. * One side of my grandparentage would but the other side thought it common!

20-08-2016, 13:39	#13
biggyt Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 345	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Looks like Android Nougat 7.0 may be released on the 22nd August 2016 and will be available on the Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X. LG are doing a limited Beta on the G5 if you live in South Korea. As usual most people will have a very long wait or will never see the update unless they want to root their device. If you are lucky enough to get the official update it is unlikely you will see it until Spring 2017....... http://www.neowin.net/news/android-7...d-on-august-22 https://www.neowin.net/news/lg-takes...program-for-g5 No need to root to flash a factory image, one of the major advantages of owning a Nexus in my opinion https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

21-08-2016, 13:49	#14
Rodney McKay Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 7,793	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up This what I find most frustrating with the way Android is left in the hands of the manufacturers. There must be a way for Google to mandate the changes and updates are released in a timely manner. Samsung has improved somewhat and is pushing out security updates every other month, in addition with a couple of new features. It needs to change, as for VoLTE its easier on MM even then its also down to the networks to shift their arses too. Still in light of all of this I love my S7. Shows a major flaw in the OS. Especially when you look at how governments and banks are pushing people to use their phones for more and more online stuff like banking, possibly even medical stuff and who knows possibly even voting in the future. I've never used my phone for online banking, I don't consider any Android phone secure enough to trust. Yet most Android phones are full of security holes and unlikely to ever be patched. One reason why Windows phones could hold a card here, I must admit getting fed up buying a new Android phone only to find that it never receives any security updates.

22-08-2016, 18:26	#15
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Android Nougat 7.0 has indeed begun rolling out. However if you own a Nexus 5 (2013) or the tablet Nexus 7 (2013) you can forget it cos its not going to happen, as google have terminated support less than 3 years since they were released. It was still on sale until March 2015 so some people may rightly feel coned. Once again Apple prove to have the best support. http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08...-our-goodbyes/

22-08-2016, 19:09	#16
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Android Nougat 7.0 has indeed begun rolling out. However if you own a Nexus 5 (2013) or the tablet Nexus 7 (2013) you can forget it cos its not going to happen, as google have terminated support less than 3 years since they were released. It was still on sale until March 2015 so some people may rightly feel coned. Once again Apple prove to have the best support. http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08...-our-goodbyes/ True that. Still wouldn't have one another one though

22-08-2016, 20:23	#17
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Android Nougat 7.0 has indeed begun rolling out. However if you own a Nexus 5 (2013) or the tablet Nexus 7 (2013) you can forget it cos its not going to happen, as google have terminated support less than 3 years since they were released. It was still on sale until March 2015 so some people may rightly feel coned. Once again Apple prove to have the best support. http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08...-our-goodbyes/ It's been 2yrs and 9 months since release, so not too shabby. Overall there lives they've gone from 4.4>5.0>5.1>6.0, two major updates in the form of Lollipop and Marshmallow. Anyone who bought it in March 2015 was still likely to have got two updates, 5.1 and 6.0.

22-08-2016, 22:12	#18
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by Doctor_Wibble Yes but is it 'noo-gah' or 'noo-gat'? Wars have started over less If you're referring to a newly popular image format, it's gif, not gif.

23-08-2016, 09:05	#19
bikerlad Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Posts: 391	Updated my Nexus 6P. Just the Lloyds banking app that doesn't work so far.

23-08-2016, 09:55	#20
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Quote: Originally Posted by bikerlad Updated my Nexus 6P. Just the Lloyds banking app that doesn't work so far. Still? Sheesh. The My Vodafone app still doesn't work either. And these companies have had most of the year to get up to speed.

23-08-2016, 11:29	#21
retrodj Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Up North Posts: 125	My Galaxy S5 on 3 literally just got updated to Marshmallow a couple of weeks ago and now they bring this version out.. I can't see this being made available for my phone until next year now, if at all lol.

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Android Nougat 7.0 may be released on the 22nd August

23-08-2016, 11:38	#22
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Can you jailbreak Samsung devices to run vanilla Android?

23-08-2016, 11:49	#23
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by retrodj My Galaxy S5 on 3 literally just got updated to Marshmallow a couple of weeks ago and now they bring this version out.. I can't see this being made available for my phone until next year now, if at all lol. It's very unlikely Nougat will be available on the S5. Samsung pretty much kill support 2 years after release and the phone is over 2 years old.

23-08-2016, 12:30	#24
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Google look like they will be doing Quarterly updates from now on. The networks and OEM's are not going to like that they can barley keep up with annual updates Quote: We’re moving Nougat into a new regular maintenance schedule over the coming quarters. In fact, we’ve already started work on the first Nougat maintenance release that will bring continued refinements and polish, and we’re planning to bring that to you this fall as a developer preview. Stay tuned! http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/...-public-betas/

23-08-2016, 16:51	#25
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz Can you jailbreak Samsung devices to run vanilla Android? Yes, enabling root and unlocking of the bootloader allows the installation of custom roms, or in your case vanilla android. Though this would have to be created by rom makers, you can't flash a Nexus based image on a Samsung phone.