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Old 20-08-2016, 02:41
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That doesn't MATTER, ahoyy.


Bear's attitude to it is what he is interested in SELLING, he can't get it right, because he neither CARES, nor knows how to properly play the game of caring and thinking.

He is EMPTY, he's a sad, nasty little clown who can ONLY get right the obviously vulnerable bits of others, in order to HURT them.


He's deeply pathetic and unpleasant.
Which is endearing. We all want to change our Bear. It's why he's the uncontested winner of this show.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:42
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It's just Karma if you don't care about anyone but yourself no one will care about you.
Priceless. Isn't this a lesson we *all* learned since before we can remember?

Completely agree.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:46
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Oh dear. Another one of those people who have access to these mythical 24/7 feeds. How DO you get them, and why can't I?

To quote Bear, "it's not faiiiiirrrr."
Because, IF anyone else was doing something then they would show it. It's in the show's interest to show interesting stuff. The fact they don't show certain people is because they are not doing anything worth showing. There is no conspiracy, BB producers don't actually care who wins, they get paid regardless. Honestly, if something exciting was happening then it would be shown, unless it's Biggins being anti-semitic.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:46
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Which is endearing. We all want to change our Bear. It's why he's the uncontested winner of this show.
Isn't this what you'd call trolling?

Look, I can get if you like his "kind" of people. But to characterize what he is as "endearing" is simply not possible. Call him "interesting" call him "controversial" or even (god forbid) "entertaining" ... but no one who's speaking with any kind of grasp on reality would call him "endearing."
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:48
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Because, IF anyone else was doing something then they would show it. It's in the show's interest to show interesting stuff. The fact they don't show certain people is because they are not doing anything worth showing. There is no conspiracy, BB producers don't actually care who wins, they get paid regardless. Honestly, if something exciting was happening then it would be shown, unless it's Biggins being anti-semitic.
Look, you can keep saying the same thing over and over and over, and it's still not going to make it true.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:48
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Priceless. Isn't this a lesson we *all* learned since before we can remember?

Completely agree.
I said it before, but karma doesn't actually exist. An ancient superstition wrapped up in a bit of dodgy religious BS.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:51
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Which is endearing. We all want to change our Bear. It's why he's the uncontested winner of this show.
Some do, not me.

I know a lost cause.

And I fully espouse the view that he is a GROWN UP and he is responsible for himself.

It's no one's problem, he's not a child, it's up to him.


And because he's not a child I judge him, and find him wanting and pathetic.

He'll only change when he totally FAILS, and probably not even then. There are plenty like him, living in some shit place, clearing any pub he goes in after ten minutes and going home to kick his dogs.

He's a NASTY loser.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:52
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Look, you can keep saying the same thing over and over and over, and it's still not going to make it true.
Of course it's true. Only someone with an irrational hatred towards an individual would deny an obvious truth.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:53
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Isn't this what you'd call trolling?

Look, I can get if you like his "kind" of people. But to characterize what he is as "endearing" is simply not possible. Call him "interesting" call him "controversial" or even (god forbid) "entertaining" ... but no one who's speaking with any kind of grasp on reality would call him "endearing."
Anyone can be endearing. Or can only a certain "kind of people" be endearing? Eugenics again. I always said these people were dangerous.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:54
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Some do, not me.

I know a lost cause.

And I fully espouse the view that he is a GROWN UP and he is responsible for himself.

It's no one's problem, he's not a child, it's up to him.


And because he's not a child I judge him, and find him wanting and pathetic.

He'll only change when he totally FAILS, and probably not even then. There are plenty like him, living in some shit place, clearing any pub he goes in after ten minutes and going home to kick his dogs.

He's a NASTY loser.
Name one crime of his. An actual proper crime.
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Old 20-08-2016, 02:55
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People that start their comments with "Look".... Hmm.
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:04
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Exactly. I have seen threats of violence, the wishing of violence by others on him, his family insulted. Some very angry thuggish people here that don't like him. I think he should get some security after the show as there are some strange people with a vendetta against him.
What is your problem not everybody who doesn't like him is thuggish !
I've just posted something constructive about him on another thread but when I hear a supporter saying such awful things about anybody that doesn't adore him !I've gone off him again because someone so rude supports him !
If it turns me off him more while I was weakening to him ! Others will feel the same!
As a supporter of him convince people that intelligent articulate n reasoned balanced views of him exist!😐
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:09
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Name one crime of his. An actual proper crime.
Why?

I never accused him of one.
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:10
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What is your problem not everybody who doesn't like him is thuggish !
I've just posted something constructive about him on another thread but when I hear a supporter saying such awful things about anybody that doesn't adore him !I've gone off him again because someone so rude supports him !
If it turns me off him more while I was weakening to him ! Others will feel the same!
As a supporter of him convince people that intelligent articulate n reasoned balanced views of him exist!😐
Did you miss the parts where I said "some people"?
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:10
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Name one crime of his. An actual proper crime.
Lots destructive and abusive behaviour is sufficient!
I actually am more worried about him than anything else ! his appearance has gone downhill ! He dint eat properly and he was talking to himself all the time to the extent to others were concerned about him!
Looks like someone on the edge to me ! Would hate to see anyone crack let alone on national TV 😶
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:12
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Why?

I never accused him of one.
Oh, you made him sound like the devil incarnate for a moment there.
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:13
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Lots destructive and abusive behaviour is sufficient!
I actually am more worried about him than anything else ! his appearance has gone downhill ! He dint eat properly and he was talking to himself all the time to the extent to others were concerned about him!
Looks like someone on the edge to me ! Would hate to see anyone crack let alone on national TV 😶
He's fine man.
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:14
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Oh, you made him sound like the devil incarnate for a moment there.
That's your weird perception, perhaps some sort of epiphany even, kicking in.
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:15
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That's your weird perception, perhaps some sort of epiphany even, kicking in.
You should be so lucky tugsy. Fully committed.
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:17
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You should be so lucky tugsy. Fully committed.
As in sectioned?

Just askin'
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:19
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As in sectioned?

Just askin'
I'm triggered now!
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:19
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His brother came on BOTs to defend him.

TBH, A two and a half month relationship is not a big deal, certainly your family won't disown you for cheating. They don't disown you for cheating in ten year relationships either. Family doesn't work like that.
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:22
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His brother came on BOTs to defend him.

TBH, A two and a half month relationship is not a big deal, certainly your family won't disown you for cheating. They don't disown you for cheating in ten year relationships either. Family doesn't work like that.
When you look back on your past, do two month relationships count when you do a little stock check? I only count those that lasted more than a year.
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Old 20-08-2016, 03:33
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His brother came on BOTs to defend him.

TBH, A two and a half month relationship is not a big deal, certainly your family won't disown you for cheating. They don't disown you for cheating in ten year relationships either. Family doesn't work like that.
Two and half months ? ... I've had stuff in my fridge longer than that !


*spot adds to the To Do list *
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Old 20-08-2016, 04:05
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You wouldn't think it with the way they set him up though. How come nobody else had a negative surprise? Why was our Bear singled out? Hope the little tramp they wheeled in the other day got paid well for stitching him up.
Well, this depends on what you want to believe. If you believe that no one is acting and playing a part and this show is not manipulated to the extreme; then Bear had a visit from his girlfriend. That's a good thing, right? It's only negative because he shagged someone else on telly. Oops!

So choose...

A) Poor misunderstood Bear. He had nasty wasty trampy girlfriend. How dare she confront her boyfriend because he cheated? What a slag. She obviously just wants to get attention and further her career. It wasn't a proper relationship and he's done her a favour by announcing on tv it's over. Poor Bear...i know he's made mistakes...but...but...his face! He's human, y'know? I didn't think I would feel sympathy, but in fairness he MADE this series! If he wasn't there we would be watching people drinking tea, knitting, soduko, etc, etc. He's pure entertainment. Yet, he has a heart. BEAR FTW!

Or you could go for...

B) It's entirely planned. Bear has dominated this show. It fits in to forward his story and gains support for the cliched redemption stuff. We've barely seen anyone else in comparison. He's going to win and more people might tune in to EOTB. He was voted (predictably) for the eternal nomination, which was to his benefit. And now we have have had naughty Bear, happy Bear and sad Bear in a caricature fashion with lingering shots of his 'emotional' face in case you you aren't the subtle type. Everyone else are supporting actors. The winner is quite frankly immaterial at this point. It is the Bear show, whether you like it or lump it.

Then there is always...

C) Why am I watching this tripe? I'm sure it used to be better...but maybe I've outgrown it?

Disappointing series. Gutted (in the small inconsequential scheme of things). I used to love this show. I keep switching it on now and wondering why.
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