Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“Oh, you made him sound like the devil incarnate for a moment there.”
“Oh, you made him sound like the devil incarnate for a moment there.”
Nonsense.
Bear Has A Mum Too
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So people on here are saying Bears mother should abandon him because he gets on like a prick?
Don't like the guy much but any decent mother will always stick by their children regardless.
Don't like the guy much but any decent mother will always stick by their children regardless.
Originally Posted by jez37:
“So people on here are saying Bears mother should abandon him because he gets on like a prick?
Don't like the guy much but any decent mother will always stick by their children regardless.”
“So people on here are saying Bears mother should abandon him because he gets on like a prick?
Don't like the guy much but any decent mother will always stick by their children regardless.”
I don't believe that. Moreover, decency has nothing to do with whether a mother cuts her child off and doesn't "stick" by them.
Not all circumstances are the same.
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“I don't believe that. Moreover, decency has nothing to do with whether a mother cuts her child off and doesn't "stick" by them.
Not all circumstances are the same.”
“I don't believe that. Moreover, decency has nothing to do with whether a mother cuts her child off and doesn't "stick" by them.
Not all circumstances are the same.”
I do, my opinion.
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“Exactly. I have seen threats of violence, the wishing of violence by others on him, his family insulted. Some very angry thuggish people here that don't like him. I think he should get some security after the show as there are some strange people with a vendetta against him.”
“Exactly. I have seen threats of violence, the wishing of violence by others on him, his family insulted. Some very angry thuggish people here that don't like him. I think he should get some security after the show as there are some strange people with a vendetta against him.”
So why aren't Bear fans applauding this? (I do agree with you, especially on the threats of violence - I mean, why?, but the irony is oh so
) These are all the traits that encapsulates him and you love him for it - apparently, IT'S ENTERTAINING. But, when you see it out here, it's mean and disgusting. You either love these traits in people or you don't. If you don't like it on here then I can't understand it how you like it in a housemate making everybody's experience in there a misery.
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Originally Posted by jez37:
“I do, my opinion.”
“I do, my opinion.”
Of course it's your opinion. What a random thing to say
Originally Posted by BirdyBee:
“Well, this depends on what you want to believe. If you believe that no one is acting and playing a part and this show is not manipulated to the extreme; then Bear had a visit from his girlfriend. That's a good thing, right? It's only negative because he shagged someone else on telly. Oops!
So choose...
A) Poor misunderstood Bear. He had nasty wasty trampy girlfriend. How dare she confront her boyfriend because he cheated? What a slag. She obviously just wants to get attention and further her career. It wasn't a proper relationship and he's done her a favour by announcing on tv it's over. Poor Bear...i know he's made mistakes...but...but...his face! He's human, y'know? I didn't think I would feel sympathy, but in fairness he MADE this series! If he wasn't there we would be watching people drinking tea, knitting, soduko, etc, etc. He's pure entertainment. Yet, he has a heart. BEAR FTW!
Or you could go for...
B) It's entirely planned. Bear has dominated this show. It fits in to forward his story and gains support for the cliched redemption stuff. We've barely seen anyone else in comparison. He's going to win and more people might tune in to EOTB. He was voted (predictably) for the eternal nomination, which was to his benefit. And now we have have had naughty Bear, happy Bear and sad Bear in a caricature fashion with lingering shots of his 'emotional' face in case you you aren't the subtle type. Everyone else are supporting actors. The winner is quite frankly immaterial at this point. It is the Bear show, whether you like it or lump it.
Then there is always...
C) Why am I watching this tripe? I'm sure it used to be better...but maybe I've outgrown it?
Disappointing series. Gutted (in the small inconsequential scheme of things). I used to love this show. I keep switching it on now and wondering why.
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“Well, this depends on what you want to believe. If you believe that no one is acting and playing a part and this show is not manipulated to the extreme; then Bear had a visit from his girlfriend. That's a good thing, right? It's only negative because he shagged someone else on telly. Oops!
So choose...
A) Poor misunderstood Bear. He had nasty wasty trampy girlfriend. How dare she confront her boyfriend because he cheated? What a slag. She obviously just wants to get attention and further her career. It wasn't a proper relationship and he's done her a favour by announcing on tv it's over. Poor Bear...i know he's made mistakes...but...but...his face! He's human, y'know? I didn't think I would feel sympathy, but in fairness he MADE this series! If he wasn't there we would be watching people drinking tea, knitting, soduko, etc, etc. He's pure entertainment. Yet, he has a heart. BEAR FTW!
Or you could go for...
B) It's entirely planned. Bear has dominated this show. It fits in to forward his story and gains support for the cliched redemption stuff. We've barely seen anyone else in comparison. He's going to win and more people might tune in to EOTB. He was voted (predictably) for the eternal nomination, which was to his benefit. And now we have have had naughty Bear, happy Bear and sad Bear in a caricature fashion with lingering shots of his 'emotional' face in case you you aren't the subtle type. Everyone else are supporting actors. The winner is quite frankly immaterial at this point. It is the Bear show, whether you like it or lump it.
Then there is always...
C) Why am I watching this tripe? I'm sure it used to be better...but maybe I've outgrown it?
Disappointing series. Gutted (in the small inconsequential scheme of things). I used to love this show. I keep switching it on now and wondering why.
”
Got to be C
Originally Posted by Annabel la:
“What is your problem not everybody who doesn't like him is thuggish !
I've just posted something constructive about him on another thread but when I hear a supporter saying such awful things about anybody that doesn't adore him !I've gone off him again because someone so rude supports him !
If it turns me off him more while I was weakening to him ! Others will feel the same!
As a supporter of him convince people that intelligent articulate n reasoned balanced views of him exist!😐”
“What is your problem not everybody who doesn't like him is thuggish !
I've just posted something constructive about him on another thread but when I hear a supporter saying such awful things about anybody that doesn't adore him !I've gone off him again because someone so rude supports him !
If it turns me off him more while I was weakening to him ! Others will feel the same!
As a supporter of him convince people that intelligent articulate n reasoned balanced views of him exist!😐”
Talking of balanced views - you must have noticed that Bear fans have regularly been abused, called names and told they must be like him if they support him?
Originally Posted by jez37:
“So people on here are saying Bears mother should abandon him because he gets on like a prick?
Don't like the guy much but any decent mother will always stick by their children regardless.”
“So people on here are saying Bears mother should abandon him because he gets on like a prick?
Don't like the guy much but any decent mother will always stick by their children regardless.”
Any decent mother would be wholly embarrassed to raise that. Maybe that's why his only visit was from his fellow fame hoe "betrayed girlfriend".
Originally Posted by PotNoodleMonkey:
“So why aren't Bear fans applauding this? (I do agree with you, especially on the threats of violence - I mean, why?, but the irony is oh so) These are all the traits that encapsulates him and you love him for it - apparently, IT'S ENTERTAINING. But, when you see it out here, it's mean and disgusting.
You either love these traits in people or you don't. If you don't like it on here then I can't understand it how you like it in a housemate making everybody's experience in there a misery.
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“So why aren't Bear fans applauding this? (I do agree with you, especially on the threats of violence - I mean, why?, but the irony is oh so
) These are all the traits that encapsulates him and you love him for it - apparently, IT'S ENTERTAINING. But, when you see it out here, it's mean and disgusting. You either love these traits in people or you don't. If you don't like it on here then I can't understand it how you like it in a housemate making everybody's experience in there a misery.
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I think you are getting a little bit confused between real life and a TV show.
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Any decent mother would be wholly embarrassed to raise that. Maybe that's why his only visit was from his fellow fame hoe "betrayed girlfriend".”
“Any decent mother would be wholly embarrassed to raise that. Maybe that's why his only visit was from his fellow fame hoe "betrayed girlfriend".
”
Ah I do detest comments like this - making assumptions about something you know absolutely nothing about, and has nothing to do with the show.
And it's always the mother - never, ever the father.
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Ah I do detest comments like this - making assumptions about something you know absolutely nothing about, and has nothing to do with the show.
And it's always the mother - never, ever the father.”
“Ah I do detest comments like this - making assumptions about something you know absolutely nothing about, and has nothing to do with the show.
And it's always the mother - never, ever the father.”
I was directly quoting and answering the post I quoted.
If you have an issue with it "always being the mother", attend the post I quoted or the OP.
Yes, Bear has a mum. A mum who knows he's not as bad as this screen persona and he may well have got a visit from her had Bear not given them something much much juicier.
Anyone with even the vaguest notion of BB will know that if you go in claiming to have a girlfriend and then screw someone else they just might wheel the cuckolded partner in. Silly to expect anything else.
And as for your comment about Lillie....think you need to take a a step back. Seems fandom is making it hard for you to see reason. What's she done to deserve that when you reckon Bear deserves sympathy?
I reckon the very worst she's done has been part of a fake love triangle for airtime but if she's to be criticised for that then so should Bear.
Anyone with even the vaguest notion of BB will know that if you go in claiming to have a girlfriend and then screw someone else they just might wheel the cuckolded partner in. Silly to expect anything else.
And as for your comment about Lillie....think you need to take a a step back. Seems fandom is making it hard for you to see reason. What's she done to deserve that when you reckon Bear deserves sympathy?
I reckon the very worst she's done has been part of a fake love triangle for airtime but if she's to be criticised for that then so should Bear.
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“They knew each other for just under two months. Saw each other once a fortnight. That's probably 3 shags. Hardly committed to each other. It's not Ken and Deidre.”
“They knew each other for just under two months. Saw each other once a fortnight. That's probably 3 shags. Hardly committed to each other. It's not Ken and Deidre.”
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“No it really is not a big awful thing. A matter of weeks was the length of their liason. Not even long enough to classify as a relationship.”
“No it really is not a big awful thing. A matter of weeks was the length of their liason. Not even long enough to classify as a relationship.”
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“Not even a fling. It doesn't count. Takes more than 6 weeks to be a relationship of any significance. ten days of chatting to Chloe 24/7 and he knows more about her than this girl he knew for under 2 months and saw intermittently.”
“Not even a fling. It doesn't count. Takes more than 6 weeks to be a relationship of any significance. ten days of chatting to Chloe 24/7 and he knows more about her than this girl he knew for under 2 months and saw intermittently.”
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“In May of this year he had never heard of her. I remember May, it's like it was yesterday. He never knew her. In May Renee and Chloe were texting each other for the first time, that's how recent it is. Hardly Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor is it”
“In May of this year he had never heard of her. I remember May, it's like it was yesterday. He never knew her. In May Renee and Chloe were texting each other for the first time, that's how recent it is. Hardly Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor is it”
You seem to have set yourself up as some sort of authority on Bear's relationship. What are your qualifications for that role? You have no idea of how long they were seeing each other, how often they were together, what they did or how they felt about each other, so stop spouting as if you do. Two people who do know have both confirmed the opposite of what you are saying. Bear spoke about his strong feelings for her and how he knew he wanted to marry her. He mentioned that he would have any intimacy in the house because he was committed to a girl he was crazy about, which indicates strong feelings. She also confirmed that they had strong, serious feelings for each other and had made a commitment to each other. Some people say that after just a week they know they have met their soulmate, indeed Bear said he'd found his. The length of their relationship is irrelevant. The feelings involved and commitment to each other aren't. Bear cheated, betrayed, humiliated and hurt this girl he professed to adore. It was a shite thing to do and he showed no compassion or remorse when confronted with her. Why do Bear fans not acknowledge the man they champion has behaved like a rat and is totally in the wrong?
Originally Posted by Esther_Aspley:
“He has a mommy bear a daddy bear now he looks like goldie locks”
“He has a mommy bear a daddy bear now he looks like goldie locks”
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“You wouldn't think it with the way they set him up though. How come nobody else had a negative surprise? Why was our Bear singled out? Hope the little tramp they wheeled in the other day got paid well for stitching him up.”
“You wouldn't think it with the way they set him up though. How come nobody else had a negative surprise? Why was our Bear singled out? Hope the little tramp they wheeled in the other day got paid well for stitching him up.”
To quote Bear when he's making things uncomfortable for others - I'm just playing the game, oooh Roofless! One of the big disappointments for me in this CBB is that no one shouted ROOFLESS when his ex left the room cos I would not have been able to stop myself.
Talking of Bear's mum - why didn't he get a letter? I thought it was a tad unfair, everyone else has received something, right?
Originally Posted by Blanche.Dubois:
“Talking of Bear's mum - why didn't he get a letter? I thought it was a tad unfair, everyone else has received something, right?”
“Talking of Bear's mum - why didn't he get a letter? I thought it was a tad unfair, everyone else has received something, right?”
Perhaps no family member wanted to write to him
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Any decent mother would be wholly embarrassed to raise that. Maybe that's why his only visit was from his fellow fame hoe "betrayed girlfriend".”
“Any decent mother would be wholly embarrassed to raise that. Maybe that's why his only visit was from his fellow fame hoe "betrayed girlfriend".
”
Agree, same goes for Marnie and Lewis, if I had raised them I would be mortified at their behaviour.
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Perhaps no family member wanted to write to him”
“Perhaps no family member wanted to write to him”
I should have read the rest of the thread.
Hasn't his father been at the eviction every week?
Originally Posted by Blanche.Dubois:
“Talking of Bear's mum - why didn't he get a letter? I thought it was a tad unfair, everyone else has received something, right?”
“Talking of Bear's mum - why didn't he get a letter? I thought it was a tad unfair, everyone else has received something, right?”
That would have made interesting reading. She could have told him how proud she was that he had perfected the art of bullying and made several HMs feel upset and intimidated. She could have told him how she admired the respect that he'd shown other mothers, by suggesting Marnie target Saira with her chest and reducing Renee to tears. She could have said how pleased she was that he'd met a nice, young girl and how heart-warming to see him dragging her to the toilet for sex and licking food off her chest. She could have said how thoughtful he was for wasting so much food, by throwing it on the floor so people couldn't consume it. She could have told him she is delighted with him and his rather large friends goading and targeting a cancer survivor, suffering with asthma. She could have told him that all their friends, family and neighbours are impressed with how he has made so many friends and been such a positive influence in the house and that he is a real credit to her. But none of that would be true, which may be why she didn't write a letter.
Originally Posted by Blanche.Dubois:
“I should have read the rest of the thread.
Hasn't his father been at the eviction every week?”
“I should have read the rest of the thread.
Hasn't his father been at the eviction every week?”
Look at the DM website, Just seen Bears dad hanging out with the repulsive Chloe.
*shudders*
Originally Posted by Menk:
“I think you are getting a little bit confused between real life and a TV show.”
“I think you are getting a little bit confused between real life and a TV show.”
I don't think so. A T**t is a T**t and a chav is a chav, regardless if a TV show is showing it or real life reveals them. Come to Newcastle. We have plenty of Bear's up here. They are NOT entertaining in the least apart from a few people who thinks so. Go put up a deck chair on the Byker estate and see how long you find their behaviour amusing, the same behaviour that is found amusing on a TV show.
Originally Posted by Blanche.Dubois:
“Talking of Bear's mum - why didn't he get a letter? I thought it was a tad unfair, everyone else has received something, right?”
“Talking of Bear's mum - why didn't he get a letter? I thought it was a tad unfair, everyone else has received something, right?”
HMS got a visit OR Letter OR video clip from those who could not visit - too far away.
Bear got his visit - and if he hadn't cheated on his GF ( If the relationship is/ was real) then he would have had the best visit of all
Originally Posted by Astute:
“HMS got a visit OR Letter OR video clip from those who could not visit - too far away.
Bear got his visit - and if he hadn't cheated on his GF ( If the relationship is/ was real) then he would have had the best visit of all”
“HMS got a visit OR Letter OR video clip from those who could not visit - too far away.
Bear got his visit - and if he hadn't cheated on his GF ( If the relationship is/ was real) then he would have had the best visit of all”
She was sent in deliberately to cause a reaction. Even Rylan said on This Morning that they thad to try very hard to get her on.
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“That would have made interesting reading. She could have told him how proud she was that he had perfected the art of bullying and made several HMs feel upset and intimidated. She could have told him how she admired the respect that he'd shown other mothers, by suggesting Marnie target Saira with her chest and reducing Renee to tears. She could have said how pleased she was that he'd met a nice, young girl and how heart-warming to see him dragging her to the toilet for sex and licking food off her chest. She could have said how thoughtful he was for wasting so much food, by throwing it on the floor so people couldn't consume it. She could have told him she is delighted with him and his rather large friends goading and targeting a cancer survivor, suffering with asthma. She could have told him that all their friends, family and neighbours are impressed with how he has made so many friends and been such a positive influence in the house and that he is a real credit to her. But none of that would be true, which may be why she didn't write a letter.”
“That would have made interesting reading. She could have told him how proud she was that he had perfected the art of bullying and made several HMs feel upset and intimidated. She could have told him how she admired the respect that he'd shown other mothers, by suggesting Marnie target Saira with her chest and reducing Renee to tears. She could have said how pleased she was that he'd met a nice, young girl and how heart-warming to see him dragging her to the toilet for sex and licking food off her chest. She could have said how thoughtful he was for wasting so much food, by throwing it on the floor so people couldn't consume it. She could have told him she is delighted with him and his rather large friends goading and targeting a cancer survivor, suffering with asthma. She could have told him that all their friends, family and neighbours are impressed with how he has made so many friends and been such a positive influence in the house and that he is a real credit to her. But none of that would be true, which may be why she didn't write a letter.”
Well, his dad has been ever-present at his eviction night, supporting him with Chloe. Even if his mother was annoyed with him, I am betting somebody could have sent a video, or letter. It's not about liking, or not liking him. I just think it's odd.
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