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I don't feel sorry for Bear at all!
Lie they said it's Karma, what goes around comes around, suck it up Bear!
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Lie they said it's Karma, what goes around comes around, suck it up Bear!
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He relies on people who'll give him the benefit of the doubt, any kindness is taken as weakness... He's horrible
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You mean you're not taken in by Bears 'journey'? How he is the bad boy turned good?
How dare you not feel sorry for Bear, you should be banished to watch him on permanent loop tripping up with eggs in his hand, for eternity. ![]()
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Wait are we supposed to feel bad for him?
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Well, the producers want to use him for their viewing figures, right? He's good enough for that, so surely there should be some fairness in how they deliver letters, whether people like him or not is not the issue. It is not about liking him, or feeling sorry for him, the producers are now deciding he should be penalised for the behaviour that has given them higher ratings for their show?
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Why would anyone feel sorry for him? He's gone out if his way to deliberately ruin the experience for most of the others so hopefully he's got what was coming to him.
He's lucky that the others HMs have the empathy and human awareness that he lacks and so won't have absolute glee at his misery the way he's had with theirs |
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Why would anyone feel sorry for him? He's gone out if his way to deliberately ruin the experience for most of the others so hopefully he's got what was coming to him.
He's lucky that the others HMs have the empathy and human awareness that he lacks and so won't have absolute glee at his misery the way he's had with theirs
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I do and I don't. Up til now he's been given preferential treatment, got the edit, been kept in despite many many warnings when others have been removed for less and this has been a huge boon for his career. Bear was a bit parter in EOTB before this but now the EOTB trailer has got the 'every beach needs a bear' edit.
Yes, BB have used him to cross promote EOTB but this has promoted him no end. I did however feel a little sorry for him because I think BB have led him to believe he is a bit of a star this year, egged him on but he got a kick in the teeth with this task. He should look at the bigger picture though and realise it has done his shitty little reality career a favour so he should pick that bottom lip up and be grateful. I feel more sorry for the others who'll come out to find they might as well have got their agents to send in a cardboard cut out for all they've been featured. |
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Well, the producers want to use him for their viewing figures, right? He's good enough for that, so surely there should be some fairness in how they deliver letters, whether people like him or not is not the issue. It is not about liking him, or feeling sorry for him, the producers are now deciding he should be penalised for the behaviour that has given them higher ratings for their show?
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Why would you feel sorry for him, he beat the vote again?
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Why would you feel sorry for him, he beat the vote again?
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Bear had his girlfriend enter the house. That would have been a lovely thing to happen IF HE HADN'T CHEATED ON HER ON TV!! You reap what you sow.
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I agree she should have had her say. What he did to her was abominable. But in terms of BB, they sent her in knowing it would be a negative impact on him. So her visit doesn't really count, I don't think!
I don't get the big shock of BB doing this either. These are the producers who sought out people like Charlie and Jason and used their bad break-up for TV. This shouldn't have been a surprise and if Bear didn't anticipate it happening then he's even more of a fool. |
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Zero pity for him here.
I think he's got off lightly. |
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I do and I don't. Up til now he's been given preferential treatment, got the edit, been kept in despite many many warnings when others have been removed for less and this has been a huge boon for his career. Bear was a bit parter in EOTB before this but now the EOTB trailer has got the 'every beach needs a bear' edit.
Yes, BB have used him to cross promote EOTB but this has promoted him no end. I did however feel a little sorry for him because I think BB have led him to believe he is a bit of a star this year, egged him on but he got a kick in the teeth with this task. However as a HM and as a person, my requirements (if you like) are different. If he was to sit around being sad & sorry & mean it, and do an about-face from the aggravating Bear 'act' (?) then unless that was a further part of an act, I wouldn't actively wish him to go back to being aggravating - for his & the other HMs sake. But if I were to believe (hope) that most of the BB Bear has been for show, then my sole 'admiration' for him has been the ability to keep up the act without a flicker. Plus he was beginning to tread a finer line between annoying & funny just lately, as could be seen happening with some of the HMs. I wouldn't have minded seeing them all getting to grips with how to deal with him, & somehow all getting on without him becoming damped down entirely. But a deflated & gloomy Bear.. it would be like the Irrepressible Dark Horse becoming Repressible halfway through, if you know what I mean. An anti-hero that turns off the anti is neither fish nor flesh. Over a longer show I might re-adjust and think it was good to see a turnaround in someone if genuine, but the timing is wrong & for me last night represented a bit of a tailspin. I'm less sure than ever what is genuine & can't really be bothered this near the end, as it's essentially pretty much guesswork anyway. Quote:
I agree she should have had her say. What he did to her was abominable. But in terms of BB, they sent her in knowing it would be a negative impact on him. So her visit doesn't really count, I don't think!
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Tricky one, this. If any of what we see is himself, & if he at any point warrants feeling sorry for, then I'll feel as sorry for him as I would anyone - being as you can redeem yourself for me at anytime, I write off no-one (I hope).
However as a HM and as a person, my requirements (if you like) are different. If he was to sit around being sad & sorry & mean it, and do an about-face from the aggravating Bear 'act' (?) then unless that was a further part of an act, I wouldn't actively wish him to go back to being aggravating - for his & the other HMs sake. But if I were to believe (hope) that most of the BB Bear has been for show, then my sole 'admiration' for him has been the ability to keep up the act without a flicker. Plus he was beginning to tread a finer line between annoying & funny just lately, as could be seen happening with some of the HMs. I wouldn't have minded seeing them all getting to grips with how to deal with him, & somehow all getting on without him becoming damped down entirely. But a deflated & gloomy Bear.. it would be like the Irrepressible Dark Horse becoming Repressible halfway through, if you know what I mean. An anti-hero that turns off the anti is neither fish nor flesh. Over a longer show I might re-adjust and think it was good to see a turnaround in someone if genuine, but the timing is wrong & for me last night represented a bit of a tailspin. I'm less sure than ever what is genuine & can't really be bothered this near the end, as it's essentially pretty much guesswork anyway. It's never been an either/or for me with Bear.
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^ thank you kindly
by the sound of one or two of the other threads Bear is back in aggro mode? but as the thread themselves seem to be getting heated I thought I'd stay out. I may therefore have missed crucial breaking info. Time will tell if being in-two-minds about Bear goes one way or the other, I expect. |
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I do and I don't. Up til now he's been given preferential treatment, got the edit, been kept in despite many many warnings when others have been removed for less and this has been a huge boon for his career. Bear was a bit parter in EOTB before this but now the EOTB trailer has got the 'every beach needs a bear' edit.
Yes, BB have used him to cross promote EOTB but this has promoted him no end. I did however feel a little sorry for him because I think BB have led him to believe he is a bit of a star this year, egged him on but he got a kick in the teeth with this task. He should look at the bigger picture though and realise it has done his shitty little reality career a favour so he should pick that bottom lip up and be grateful. I feel more sorry for the others who'll come out to find they might as well have got their agents to send in a cardboard cut out for all they've been featured. The producers probably thought, well it can't be a problem sending her in, as Bear is surely going to utter the word 'sorry' at least once and the majority of the public would have let it go (great at least he said sorry, now move on). But, no the arrogant idiot couldn't even do that, so he bought it on himself really. Who in their right minds wouldn't just say sorry?
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Agree. Also I believe that all these messages/family/friends visits were pre-arranged for that task long ago and that they had already contacted Bear's girlfriend. BB had no idea at the time that Bear was effectively going to cheat on his girlfriend and mess up the nice treat/distraction.
The producers probably thought, well it can't be a problem sending her in, as Bear is surely going to utter the word 'sorry' at least once and the majority of the public would have let it go (great at least he said sorry, now move on). But, no the arrogant idiot couldn't even do that, so he bought it on himself really. Who in their right minds wouldn't just say sorry?:confused: |
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Someone with no class, no empathy, no awareness and the social skills of a plank maybe?
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I have no sympathy for him at all. He cheated on his girlfriend, and he's gone out of his way to goad and irritate the other housemates. It turns out, shockingly, people don't like being treated like he treats them, so there are consequences to that. You reap what you sow. But according to Bear and a lot of his fans, nothing is his fault, he isn't responsible for any of his actions, he's allowed to treat other people like rubbish, but it's so unfair if they give him anything back. Happens every time with these sort of "wind-up merchant" housemates, it did with Perez and Marc too.
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Tricky one, this. If any of what we see is himself, & if he at any point warrants feeling sorry for, then I'll feel as sorry for him as I would anyone - being as you can redeem yourself for me at anytime, I write off no-one (I hope).
However as a HM and as a person, my requirements (if you like) are different. If he was to sit around being sad & sorry & mean it, and do an about-face from the aggravating Bear 'act' (?) then unless that was a further part of an act, I wouldn't actively wish him to go back to being aggravating - for his & the other HMs sake. But if I were to believe (hope) that most of the BB Bear has been for show, then my sole 'admiration' for him has been the ability to keep up the act without a flicker. Plus he was beginning to tread a finer line between annoying & funny just lately, as could be seen happening with some of the HMs. I wouldn't have minded seeing them all getting to grips with how to deal with him, & somehow all getting on without him becoming damped down entirely. But a deflated & gloomy Bear.. it would be like the Irrepressible Dark Horse becoming Repressible halfway through, if you know what I mean. An anti-hero that turns off the anti is neither fish nor flesh. Over a longer show I might re-adjust and think it was good to see a turnaround in someone if genuine, but the timing is wrong & for me last night represented a bit of a tailspin. I'm less sure than ever what is genuine & can't really be bothered this near the end, as it's essentially pretty much guesswork anyway. Yes, that was just for the Jasmine Waltz moment, and they certainly wouldn't have done that/in that way in different circumstances. I'm one of the sceptical brigade unaffected by 'brave spurned gf versus villainous bf' setpiece anyway, so that entire thing was a non-starter for me & null & void as psychological-interest material. |
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I don't feel in the least bit sorry for him........he chose to act like a prat, he didn't/doesn't care about anyone else's feelings. He doesn't/didn't care how his behaviour affected anyone. However, what he doesn't like is that his behaviour has been suddenly brought to the fore. His attitude toward the girlfriend he came into the house, still seeing as far as she knew, was disgraceful. He then had the nerve to try to turn the blame onto her.
He was also hacked off by the comment Renee's son made about him. Awwwww boohoo, you brought it all on yourself, & your faux tears don't fool me for one second. He doesn't like when his cronies are evicted, & takes it so personally, but as he keeps telling everyone ''it's only a game''. Or is it only a game when it's people he doesn't really like are evicted? Hmmmmm........... He's now trying to maintain he's the only honest person in there.........but surely not, as he keeps saying, ''he's playing the game''. His tears & glum face don't move me one little bit! |
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I don't feel in the least bit sorry for him........he chose to act like a prat, he didn't/doesn't care about anyone else's feelings. He doesn't/didn't care how his behaviour affected anyone. However, what he doesn't like is that his behaviour has been suddenly brought to the fore. His attitude toward the girlfriend he came into the house, still seeing as far as she knew, was disgraceful. He then had the nerve to try to turn the blame onto her.
He was also hacked off by the comment Renee's son made about him. Awwwww boohoo, you brought it all on yourself, & your faux tears don't fool me for one second. He doesn't like when his cronies are evicted, & takes it so personally, but as he keeps telling everyone ''it's only a game''. Or is it only a game when it's people he doesn't really like are evicted? Hmmmmm........... He's now trying to maintain he's the only honest person in there.........but surely not, as he keeps saying, ''he's playing the game''. His tears & glum face don't move me one little bit! It's almost as if he's deliberately pretending to be offended so he can get the sympathy vote but bear would never do that, he's too busy 'keepin it real'
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It's never been an either/or for me with Bear.
I thought I'd stay out. I may therefore have missed crucial breaking info.