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Corrie Characters' Houses - what should change?
What's everyone's dream home setup on the Street?
Personally I would like Johnny (and new wife Jenny), along with Kate and Aiden to move into Number 7 after Dev sells it when he falls on hard times. He and his kids would live in 15a above the Corner Shop. If the Connors didn't move in I would have Anna, Faye, Gary and Jake move into Number 7 following the death of Izzy. I'd like Norris to move in with Rita following the death of Emily, leaving Steve, Michelle and Liz to move into Number 3 after deciding to move on from running the pub. Following the McDonalds' decision to leave, I would have Sally decide to run the pub (with Tim struggling to cope on the other side of the bar!) and the pair would move into the Rovers. Number 4 would thus open up and be bought by a new family, a Northern powerhouse with a strong matriarch. I would keep the rest much the same but I think these changes would inject a bit more life into the show and shake it up. I think Sally and Tim running the Rovers would be classic! Just throwing ideas in the air! Anyone else got any?
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I'd evict Fiz and Ty from the old Duckworth Museum because it collapses and they can't afford the repairs due to still recovering from their debts. A property developer buys it and repairs and redevelops it and turns it into a student house?
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Great thread James. My ideas ...
Rovers - new owners No.1 - Barlows No.3 - new family No.5 - Leanne, Eva No.7 - Maria No.9 - Student house No.11 - McDonalds No.13 - Kevin, Jack Sophie Shop flat - don't know No.8 - Platts No.6 - Nazirs No.4 - Websters |
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I definitely agree about seeing new faces running the Rovers Return. I often wonder if the Bistro has any accommodation above it-maybe Nick, Leanne and Simon could move in there if there is (if they do get together).
And i live in the hope that Ken will finally see the light of day and kick Tracy out once and for all (although he wouldn't do it to Amy)-there must be a flat above the florists, although i'm sure it still belongs to Peter. |
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I really want Tim and Sally to run the rovers, it could be like a modern day Annie and Jack.
I think Anna and Faye live above the Florists? |
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I agree that there should be a new family at the Rovers and the whole feel of the place should be given a change.
Hopefully the rumours of Toyah are true, I would split Eva and Aidan and have Eva, Leanne, Toyah live together. Simon could live with Peter and spend weekends at Leanne's or whatever so the dynamic is focused on Leanne and her sisters. |
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I agree that there should be a new family at the Rovers and the whole feel of the place should be given a change.
Hopefully the rumours of Toyah are true, I would split Eva and Aidan and have Eva, Leanne, Toyah live together. Simon could live with Peter and spend weekends at Leanne's or whatever so the dynamic is focused on Leanne and her sisters. Quote:
I really want Tim and Sally to run the rovers, it could be like a modern day Annie and Jack.
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I really want Tim and Sally to run the rovers, it could be like a modern day Annie and Jack.
I think Anna and Faye live above the Florists? |
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I like that idea. Peter would probably be living at Number 1 for a while when he returns so Simon can flit between Leanne/Eva/Toyah's house and the Barlows.
Me too. I'd like Sally to take it over and be a bit ruthless about changing the place. Refurb, etc. Comedy gold would exist with them in the place - Tim's haplessness and Sally's proud landlady role colliding all the time! |
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Tim could home brew some of the beers and make the pub his own, in an enthusiastic way, proud of his job. It would make the Rovers seem like a pub instead of just another house for some people to argue in. The McDonalds just don't suit it.
Sally and Tim would be vastly preferable as landlords and it would free up Sally's LARGE house for a proper new Northern family. |
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Great thread James. My ideas ...
Rovers - new owners ![]() On a serious note, like the idea of a student house. |
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I like that idea. Peter would probably be living at Number 1 for a while when he returns so Simon can flit between Leanne/Eva/Toyah's house and the Barlows.
Me too. I'd like Sally to take it over and be a bit ruthless about changing the place. Refurb, etc. Comedy gold would exist with them in the place - Tim's haplessness and Sally's proud landlady role colliding all the time! Liz could still work as a barmaid as she's good in the Rovers. The McDonalds have become stale at the Rovers. It really needs some sort of overhaul, wether that come from existing character such as Sally and Tim or a new family. |
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Sorry but the idea of Sally running the Rovers fills me with absolute dread.
I just can't see her either wanting to run it or actually being able to do so day in, day out. To me it would be a complete character assassination and I hope it never happens. |
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Sorry but the idea of Sally running the Rovers fills me with absolute dread.
I just can't see her either wanting to run it or actually being able to do so day in, day out. To me it would be a complete character assassination and I hope it never happens. I think it would be driven more by the desire to be a pillar of the community - she'd soon find herself pretty hopeless at the running of the pub side of things, leaving that to other experienced staff members (Liz and Sally interactions could be golden, e.g. if Sally palms off a lot of the hard bar work to Liz whilst striding around redecorating bits and being the proud landlady!) Also Tim could - as others have said - offer his craft beer and be constantly ticked off by Sal for spending too much time "on the wrong side of the bar". I don't know, I do see your concerns but I also think it'd be a great extension of "counsellor Sally" but in a much more reachable context for viewers. Dynamically I think it could work very well indeed. Tim would be constantly fixing things and helping out, and embarrassing Sally; Sally would be trying to improve the 'ambience' but struggling to take the backstreet pub out of the place (comedy) and find her efforts falling flat; Tim, ironically, would be the one making sure Sally doesn't wreck the boozer being a boozer; Liz could end up silently seething at Sally bossing her about which could lead to great comedy scenes. It would be Sally making a mess of it with her snobbish idealism but being loveable with it and thwarted along the way. ![]() It would be a gamble but I think I'd prefer it to a new family and don't think it'd be a character assassination at all if written properly. But who knows in soap
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Norris needs to come out of his house & move into the other flat above the Kabin (Jason and Michelle used to live there)
Who's living above the corner shop now? I think there are extra properties in between the community centre and Victoria flats, or is that where izzy and Gary are? |
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Interesting!
I think it would be driven more by the desire to be a pillar of the community - she'd soon find herself pretty hopeless at the running of the pub side of things, leaving that to other experienced staff members (Liz and Sally interactions could be golden, e.g. if Sally palms off a lot of the hard bar work to Liz whilst striding around redecorating bits and being the proud landlady!) Also Tim could - as others have said - offer his craft beer and be constantly ticked off by Sal for spending too much time "on the wrong side of the bar". I don't know, I do see your concerns but I also think it'd be a great extension of "counsellor Sally" but in a much more reachable context for viewers. Dynamically I think it could work very well indeed. Tim would be constantly fixing things and helping out, and embarrassing Sally; Sally would be trying to improve the 'ambience' but struggling to take the backstreet pub out of the place (comedy) and find her efforts falling flat; Tim, ironically, would be the one making sure Sally doesn't wreck the boozer being a boozer; Liz could end up silently seething at Sally bossing her about which could lead to great comedy scenes. It would be Sally making a mess of it with her snobbish idealism but being loveable with it and thwarted along the way. ![]() It would be a gamble but I think I'd prefer it to a new family and don't think it'd be a character assassination at all if written properly. But who knows in soap ![]() I also can't really see anything all that interesting in terms of comedy. Antagonism between the snobby landlady and her put upon staff was played out with far more superiority by Doris Speed, Julie Goodyear, Betty Driver, Jean Alexander & Co for more than 20 years. Having Sally become the 21st century version of Mrs Walker is a bit too much of a carbon copy for me. While I love to see Corrie build on its enduring archetypes, this is more of a case of simply transferring what was successful with one character onto another. Just to add something about likening Sally to Annie Walker. The true basis of Annie Walker's character wasn't that being the landlady of the Rovers meant that she had social standing or position, it was that she always thought something better was about to come along. The Rovers was, for Annie, an undesirable means to a far more superior end. In their back story, Jack and Annie had taken the pub on as something of a stop gap, to bide their time before taking on a pub or hotel in leafy Chesire. Annie didn't want to live and work in a pub on a working-class terraced street, but she did and she learned to get on with it but always with the hope that something better would come along. Annie's years at the Rovers were based around her waiting for this dream to come true. Ironically, when the option did come up she turned it down, but the desire to be better than the status quo was always the central part of the character. In fact, Annie very rarely makes reference to the status of the Rovers. It's always other characters that refer to it as a 'tatty little backstreet boozer'; it's almost as if Annie completely blots this fact from her understanding of the world because, deep down, she knows the truth about the place. She knows that running such a downmarket pub is at odds with what she thinks of herself. What you're suggesting is Sally using the Rovers as a means of trying to make out that she is better than she already is. To me, that just doesn't ring true. The Rovers will always be a scruffy, undesirable pub that would be hard work to run and far from glamorous (as much as Bet Lynch tried to suggest otherwise). Sally knows this so why would she ever want to take it on? Sally has already used her foray into local politics as a means of becoming a pillar of the community, I don't see that suddenly wanting to become a landlady would bring her any more status. If anything, it would be an embarrassment. Sorry James but I don't agree with you on this one
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Your explanations are sound, James, but I still can't see past Sally wanting to take over the pub in the first place. It's not a well-respected gastro pub, microbrewery or some other trendy type of public house, it's a tatty boozer and will remain as such. If moving Sally into the pub meant that the Rovers would actually change then I could entertain the idea, but I can't ever see that happening and without that fundamental change to the Rovers itself, moving Sally into the pub would be futile for me.
I also can't really see anything all that interesting in terms of comedy. Antagonism between the snobby landlady and her put upon staff was played out with far more superiority by Doris Speed, Julie Goodyear, Betty Driver, Jean Alexander & Co for more than 20 years. Having Sally become the 21st century version of Mrs Walker is a bit too much of a carbon copy for me. While I love to see Corrie build on its enduring archetypes, this is more of a case of simply transferring what was successful with one character onto another. Just to add something about likening Sally to Annie Walker. The true basis of Annie Walker's character wasn't that being the landlady of the Rovers meant that she had social standing or position, it was that she always thought something better was about to come along. The Rovers was, for Annie, an undesirable means to a far more superior end. In their back story, Jack and Annie had taken the pub on as something of a stop gap, to bide their time before taking on a pub or hotel in leafy Chesire. Annie didn't want to live and work in a pub on a working-class terraced street, but she did and she learned to get on with it but always with the hope that something better would come along. Annie's years at the Rovers were based around her waiting for this dream to come true. Ironically, when the option did come up she turned it down, but the desire to be better than the status quo was always the central part of the character. In fact, Annie very rarely makes reference to the status of the Rovers. It's always other characters that refer to it as a 'tatty little backstreet boozer'; it's almost as if Annie completely blots this fact from her understanding of the world because, deep down, she knows the truth about the place. She knows that running such a downmarket pub is at odds with what she thinks of herself. What you're suggesting is Sally using the Rovers as a means of trying to make out that she is better than she already is. To me, that just doesn't ring true. The Rovers will always be a scruffy, undesirable pub that would be hard work to run and far from glamorous (as much as Bet Lynch tried to suggest otherwise). Sally knows this so why would she ever want to take it on? Sally has already used her foray into local politics as a means of becoming a pillar of the community, I don't see that suddenly wanting to become a landlady would bring her any more status. If anything, it would be an embarrassment. Sorry James but I don't agree with you on this one ![]() I think I'd probably script it as Tim wanting to take over the pub when the McDonalds leave then a sort of comedic marital battle ensuing as Sally tries to change it and is embarrassed at it conflicting with her Counsellor status; while Tim wants to keep it as a backstreet boozer, if not make it even more traditional pub like. Sally would want to try and make the area generally more upmarket and have counsellor friends come and go, etc, while Tim would be determined to keep it traditional (think him and Craig running a pie and mash night, for example). This would horrify Sally who would demand changes to the decor (some might last, some might not, etc). Ultimately it would be Sally learning the community is the real heart, not her lofty ambitions. The battle would be always between what - or who - she wants to be, and who she really is. Learning to be happy with that. With a lot of comedy along the way. Anything to further explore her and Tim's relationship, I favour. They are the best couple in the show IMO so why not put them right at the heart of the Rovers. I stand by my thoughts that Sally as landlady and Liz as bar manager/bar maid would make for cracking interactions. Tim and Steve as partners in crime too. On your point about Sally / Annie - I am drawn to recall the scene with Yasmeen from the other week where Sally candidly spoke about her past and motivations; I'd say she's more similar to Annie than you give her credit for, and I don't think it would be an unnatural copycat plot for something similar to happen here. Difference would be Tim is cut from the cloth of the "tatty little backstreet boozer" while Sally has lofty aspirations - born of her childhood. It could be a really organic look at Sally's character told through a marital story with lots of comedy. Perhaps eventually Sally would be forced to confront her attitude and realise where it's stemmed from, and eventually join forces with Tim to make the Rovers the beating heart of the street, rallying the community together. Oh I don't know. I think a lot of people would never have thought Tim and Sally could be such a great couple but they defied expectations; I think they could do it here and I know you don't agree but I really think Sally has the makings of a modern day Annie Walker. The street has changed a lot demographically and is a lot more gentrified but Tim would be the yin to Sally's yang at every turn, counteracting her attempts to morph the place too much to suit her psychological schema - it could even threaten to drive them apart and cause her to isolate herself from the community (who could start boycotting the place?) until eventually she'd have an epiphany and be proud of her roots, and embrace the pub and role. I also for see Sally holding little gatherings of counsellor friends in high places, only for members of her family like Sophie (or a returned Rosie) to make an almighty drama over something trivial, or Tim to get really drunk with the lads, much to her horror. Yes very Hyacinth Bucket but I think it works with Sally and I think it could lead to a much needed light bulb moment and sea change moment for her in terms of accepting her past and shedding light on how it affects her in the present. We could see her get worse before she gets better, in the regard of relentless pursuit of more, of better. I can see Sally Dyvenor being with the show for many years to come and I think she'd make a brilliant long term landlady, with the story told slowly over a long period. Lots of scope for comedy, lots of scope for progression. We agree to disagree but it matters not, for the debate is the most interesting and fun part
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Rovers - new family
no 1 - Ken, Peter, Daniel, Adam no 3 - Norris, Steph? Mary? Freddie? no 5 - Kirk, Beth, Craig no 7 - Dev and twins no 9 - Tyrone, Fiz and kids no 11 - Elieen, Todd, Billy no 13 - Kevin, Anna, Faye, Jack no 15a corner shop - Chesney & Sinead no 2a salon flat - Sarah, Bethany, Harry, Gary no 4 - Sally, Tim, Sophie no 6 - Steve, Michele, liz, Amy no 8 - David, Gail, Max, Lily no 10a - Rita, Gemma flower shop flat - Tracy, Robert kebab shop flat - Leanne, Simon Streetcars flat - Aidan, Eva Cafe flat - Roy, Cathy Victoria court - Johnny, Jenny, Kate - NIck - Maria, Liam, new boyfriend with 2 kids and mom Axe the Nazias, Sean, Andy, Luke, Izzy, Alex |
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Great insightful post and I don't expect us to agree on everything!
I think I'd probably script it as Tim wanting to take over the pub when the McDonalds leave then a sort of comedic marital battle ensuing as Sally tries to change it and is embarrassed at it conflicting with her Counsellor status; while Tim wants to keep it as a backstreet boozer, if not make it even more traditional pub like. Sally would want to try and make the area generally more upmarket and have counsellor friends come and go, etc, while Tim would be determined to keep it traditional (think him and Craig running a pie and mash night, for example). This would horrify Sally who would demand changes to the decor (some might last, some might not, etc). Ultimately it would be Sally learning the community is the real heart, not her lofty ambitions. The battle would be always between what - or who - she wants to be, and who she really is. Learning to be happy with that. With a lot of comedy along the way. Anything to further explore her and Tim's relationship, I favour. They are the best couple in the show IMO so why not put them right at the heart of the Rovers. I stand by my thoughts that Sally as landlady and Liz as bar manager/bar maid would make for cracking interactions. Tim and Steve as partners in crime too. On your point about Sally / Annie - I am drawn to recall the scene with Yasmeen from the other week where Sally candidly spoke about her past and motivations; I'd say she's more similar to Annie than you give her credit for, and I don't think it would be an unnatural copycat plot for something similar to happen here. Difference would be Tim is cut from the cloth of the "tatty little backstreet boozer" while Sally has lofty aspirations - born of her childhood. It could be a really organic look at Sally's character told through a marital story with lots of comedy. Perhaps eventually Sally would be forced to confront her attitude and realise where it's stemmed from, and eventually join forces with Tim to make the Rovers the beating heart of the street, rallying the community together. Oh I don't know. I think a lot of people would never have thought Tim and Sally could be such a great couple but they defied expectations; I think they could do it here and I know you don't agree but I really think Sally has the makings of a modern day Annie Walker. The street has changed a lot demographically and is a lot more gentrified but Tim would be the yin to Sally's yang at every turn, counteracting her attempts to morph the place too much to suit her psychological schema - it could even threaten to drive them apart and cause her to isolate herself from the community (who could start boycotting the place?) until eventually she'd have an epiphany and be proud of her roots, and embrace the pub and role. I also for see Sally holding little gatherings of counsellor friends in high places, only for members of her family like Sophie (or a returned Rosie) to make an almighty drama over something trivial, or Tim to get really drunk with the lads, much to her horror. Yes very Hyacinth Bucket but I think it works with Sally and I think it could lead to a much needed light bulb moment and sea change moment for her in terms of accepting her past and shedding light on how it affects her in the present. We could see her get worse before she gets better, in the regard of relentless pursuit of more, of better. I can see Sally Dyvenor being with the show for many years to come and I think she'd make a brilliant long term landlady, with the story told slowly over a long period. Lots of scope for comedy, lots of scope for progression. We agree to disagree but it matters not, for the debate is the most interesting and fun part ![]() Like you said, Sally and Tim are such a popular couple why not make them at the centre of it all? Just think of the drama/comedy that could happen! Tim would put the passion back into running a pub, whilst Sally would view it as a status symbol but not want to actively get involved in the dirty work, this could cause friction in the marriage but eventually they find each other again and compromise. And it could be long term. |
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I really want Tim and Sally to run the rovers, it could be like a modern day Annie and Jack.
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Great insightful post and I don't expect us to agree on everything!
I think I'd probably script it as Tim wanting to take over the pub when the McDonalds leave then a sort of comedic marital battle ensuing as Sally tries to change it and is embarrassed at it conflicting with her Counsellor status; while Tim wants to keep it as a backstreet boozer, if not make it even more traditional pub like. Sally would want to try and make the area generally more upmarket and have counsellor friends come and go, etc, while Tim would be determined to keep it traditional (think him and Craig running a pie and mash night, for example). This would horrify Sally who would demand changes to the decor (some might last, some might not, etc). Ultimately it would be Sally learning the community is the real heart, not her lofty ambitions. The battle would be always between what - or who - she wants to be, and who she really is. Learning to be happy with that. With a lot of comedy along the way. Anything to further explore her and Tim's relationship, I favour. They are the best couple in the show IMO so why not put them right at the heart of the Rovers. I stand by my thoughts that Sally as landlady and Liz as bar manager/bar maid would make for cracking interactions. Tim and Steve as partners in crime too. On your point about Sally / Annie - I am drawn to recall the scene with Yasmeen from the other week where Sally candidly spoke about her past and motivations; I'd say she's more similar to Annie than you give her credit for, and I don't think it would be an unnatural copycat plot for something similar to happen here. Difference would be Tim is cut from the cloth of the "tatty little backstreet boozer" while Sally has lofty aspirations - born of her childhood. It could be a really organic look at Sally's character told through a marital story with lots of comedy. Perhaps eventually Sally would be forced to confront her attitude and realise where it's stemmed from, and eventually join forces with Tim to make the Rovers the beating heart of the street, rallying the community together. Oh I don't know. I think a lot of people would never have thought Tim and Sally could be such a great couple but they defied expectations; I think they could do it here and I know you don't agree but I really think Sally has the makings of a modern day Annie Walker. The street has changed a lot demographically and is a lot more gentrified but Tim would be the yin to Sally's yang at every turn, counteracting her attempts to morph the place too much to suit her psychological schema - it could even threaten to drive them apart and cause her to isolate herself from the community (who could start boycotting the place?) until eventually she'd have an epiphany and be proud of her roots, and embrace the pub and role. I also for see Sally holding little gatherings of counsellor friends in high places, only for members of her family like Sophie (or a returned Rosie) to make an almighty drama over something trivial, or Tim to get really drunk with the lads, much to her horror. Yes very Hyacinth Bucket but I think it works with Sally and I think it could lead to a much needed light bulb moment and sea change moment for her in terms of accepting her past and shedding light on how it affects her in the present. We could see her get worse before she gets better, in the regard of relentless pursuit of more, of better. I can see Sally Dyvenor being with the show for many years to come and I think she'd make a brilliant long term landlady, with the story told slowly over a long period. Lots of scope for comedy, lots of scope for progression. We agree to disagree but it matters not, for the debate is the most interesting and fun part ![]()
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Exactly what I was thinking. It has great comic potential.
I think they should introduce some more characters living in the yuppie flats, give the street a bit more of a social mix. It's disappointing that they got rid of the well-established Weatherfield Quays just so they could include an apartment set on the back lot that they could blow it up whenever they like. That's the only reason they're there. Nobody thought how unrealistic it would be to have some supposedly expensive and desirable apartments at the end of a dead end street, surrounded by a builders' yard, a greasy spoon and a kebab shop. Yes new-build apartments places do exist in these kind of settings out there in the real world, but they aren't the classy and swanky apartments that Corrie is so keen on depicting. Similarly, the kind of characters that live there aren't the flashy and independent business types. I wish they'd kept Weatherfield Quays as that was a far more believable place for the likes of Carla and Nick to want to live. More characters could have been introduced living there and given connections to Coronation Street. |
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The yuppie flats at the bottom of a scruffy back street? The Victoria Court flats are a blight on the show and should be quietly phased out.
It's disappointing that they got rid of the well-established Weatherfield Quays just so they could include an apartment set on the back lot that they could blow it up whenever they like. That's the only reason they're there. Nobody thought how unrealistic it would be to have some supposedly expensive and desirable apartments at the end of a dead end street, surrounded by a builders' yard, a greasy spoon and a kebab shop. Yes new-build apartments places do exist in these kind of settings out there in the real world, but they aren't the classy and swanky apartments that Corrie is so keen on depicting. Similarly, the kind of characters that live there aren't the flashy and independent business types. I wish they'd kept Weatherfield Quays as that was a far more believable place for the likes of Carla and Nick to want to live. More characters could have been introduced living there and given connections to Coronation Street.
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Plus the mysterious tarpaulined area at the end - the one storey odd buildings before the fire were to replicate the old VC with its adjoining runway to the other side
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No 1 - Ken, Peter, Daniel, Adam
No 3 - Norris, Freddie No 5 - Kirk, Beth, Craig, Chesney, Gemma No 7 - Dev, Erica, Twins and Mary No 9 - New Family No 11 - Eileen, Todd, Billy No 13 - Kevin, Anna, Sophie Faye, Jack No 15a corner shop - Tyrone and Ruby (if they can make him like able again) No 2a salon flat - Sarah, Bethany, Harry and Gary No 4 - New Family No 6 - Nick, Leanne, Simon and Toyah No 8 - Gail, David, Lilly and Max No 10a - Rita and Emily Flat that is next to Rita's - Steph, Andy and Luke Rovers Return - Sally and Tim (and possibly family for either of them) Flat above the Florists - Tracy, Robert, Amy Kebab shop flat - Eva and Kate, One new young female Streetcars flat - Liz, Michelle and Steve Cafe flat - Roy, possible flat mate for Roy Grassmere Drive - Audrey Victoria court - Johnny and Jenny - Aiden - Maria and Liam - Rana and Zeedan (as he isn't too bad) and Yasmeen (as I quite like her in small doses) - New Power couple I would axe Sharif Nazir (Yasmeen to kick him out), Alya (better job elsewhere), Sean (move to London to be near Dylan), Fiz and Hope (moves to be near Cilla as she is ill), Sinead to meet a bloke online and leave Chesney leading to Chesney becoming a couple with Gemma and still being friendly with Beth and Kirk), Cathy and Alex (Roy gets fed up of them and kick them out so they move away) |
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