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Dvds look worse on my new LED TV
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mal2pool
20-08-2016
Is it my tvs fault, maybe i should buy a better one that upscales dvd pictures or do i need a new dvd player.
Really disappointed in the quality of dvds on my new telly
Tassium
20-08-2016
Without one piece of technical information how can anyone offer an opinion?
mal2pool
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“Is it my tvs fault, maybe i should buy a better one that upscales dvd pictures or do i need a new dvd player.
Really disappointed in the quality of dvds on my new telly”

Ah sorry. I bought a Panasonic tx48 300b telly. Have a dvd player thats 5 years old.

dvds looked great on my previous panasonic plasma but not on this new tv
GDK
20-08-2016
How is the DVD player connected to the new TV? HDMI? SCART (composite video? RGB?).
What was the resolution of the old TV and the new?
Is the DVD player output set for a 16:9 TV?
Does the DVD player do any upscaling itself, or are you relying on the TV to upscale?
mal2pool
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by GDK:
“How is the DVD player connected to the new TV? HDMI? SCART (composite video? RGB?).
What was the resolution of the old TV and the new?
Is the DVD player output set for a 16:9 TV?
Does the DVD player do any upscaling itself, or are you relying on the TV to upscale?”

My old tv was HD ready. panansonic from 2009.
No dvd player wasnt set to 16.9...set it now
Not sure if dvd player upscales or tv upscales.
anthony david
20-08-2016
I assume from the model number it is a 48 inch. What size was the old set and how far are you sitting from it?
mal2pool
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by anthony david:
“I assume from the model number it is a 48 inch. What size was the old set and how far are you sitting from it?”

Old telly was 37 inch hd ready...sitting 4 feet away
chrisjr
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“My old tv was HD ready. panansonic from 2009.
No dvd player wasnt set to 16.9...set it now
Not sure if dvd player upscales or tv upscales.”

You need to give us some detail to work with. How is the DVD player connected to the TV, ie are you using an HDMI lead or a SCART lead?

If it is HDMI then either the DVD or TV could be upscaling. If it is SCART then the TV is doing it as SCART is strictly SD.

If you are using SCART make sure that in the Video Output settings of the DVD player you have RGB mode selected as this will usually give the best possible quality.
mal2pool
20-08-2016
i'm using hd cables...does look a little better since i changed dvd player to 16:9 aspect...will have to play a whole dvd through tonight to see
davies88
20-08-2016
DVD's will always look better on a Plasma than and LCD TV. Although with the right calibration, you can get an LCD to look pretty close to a Plasma.

I have a 42" Plasma, and won't be upgrading until OLED's become more affordable.

Plasma's always look more natural and easier on the eye to me.
anthony david
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“Old telly was 37 inch hd ready...sitting 4 feet away”

DVDs are standard definition and although usually, but not always, better quality than SD Freeview, at a normal domestic viewing distance of 3m/10ft you start noticing picture defects on screen sizes over 36 inches. You can get away with a 40 inch screen, although you notice that some DVDs are much better than others, but 48 inches viewed from 4ft is hopeless, in fact I'm surprised you found the pictures on your 37 inch acceptable at that distance. You need Blu-ray for that set up, any SD source is pointless.
mal2pool
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by davies88:
“DVD's will always look better on a Plasma than and LCD TV. Although with the right calibration, you can get an LCD to look pretty close to a Plasma.

I have a 42" Plasma, and won't be upgrading until OLED's become more affordable.

Plasma's always look more natural and easier on the eye to me.”

LED on HD channels is really good. I watched Gladiator last week and it looked better on tv than on the dvd.
jackthom
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“LED on HD channels is really good. I watched Gladiator last week and it looked better on tv than on the dvd.”

We sit around 10 feet from a 50" plasma and of course nearly all HD looks great.
Anything SD, whether its from DVD or off-air, is a bit on the ropey side.

As has already been pointed out, if you want to sit closer than this and watch movies on your 48" TV you should really invest in a bluray player and some discs, or maybe try out Netflix / Amazon Instant.
-GONZO-
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“LED on HD channels is really good. I watched Gladiator last week and it looked better on tv than on the dvd.”

Of course it would, you watched it on a HD channel which uses a HD copy of the film at a maximum resolution of 1080i whereas your DVD is SD so will always look worse at a resolution of 576i.
David (2)
20-08-2016
Firstly, you need to connect the DVD to the tv using an HDMI cord. If it's older it won't have this (only scart) or seperate analogue cord such as red/white/yellow.

So if it is an older player without HDMI, you should replace the device with a bluray player. You can then connect with HDMI, and adjust the resolution output of the player to 1080p (full HD) and enable 24fps if it has that. Not forgetting switching it to widescreen 16x9 mode. This should give the best results on DVD and Blu-ray Discs.

In general, DVD is SD quality - just like one of the regular live to channels (not the HD versions). Actually the data capacity on DVD is quite good so pre-recorded DVD pictures should look a bit better than regular sd tv channels. With this in mind, how bad do those regular sd tv channels look on the new tv. If you get similar poor results with those it may simply be that the tv manufacturer has cut costs by putting in a really cheap, poor scaler (on the assumption that most things are now in HD quality via live tv and bluray).
anthony david
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by David (2):
“Firstly, you need to connect the DVD to the tv using an HDMI cord. If it's older it won't have this (only scart) or seperate analogue cord such as red/white/yellow.

So if it is an older player without HDMI, you should replace the device with a bluray player. You can then connect with HDMI, and adjust the resolution output of the player to 1080p (full HD) and enable 24fps if it has that. Not forgetting switching it to widescreen 16x9 mode. This should give the best results on DVD and Blu-ray Discs.

In general, DVD is SD quality - just like one of the regular live to channels (not the HD versions). Actually the data capacity on DVD is quite good so pre-recorded DVD pictures should look a bit better than regular sd tv channels. With this in mind, how bad do those regular sd tv channels look on the new tv. If you get similar poor results with those it may simply be that the tv manufacturer has cut costs by putting in a really cheap, poor scaler (on the assumption that most things are now in HD quality via live tv and bluray).”

You seem to have completely missed the fact he is watching SD on a 48 inch TV from 4 feet away!
mal2pool
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by David (2):
“Firstly, you need to connect the DVD to the tv using an HDMI cord. If it's older it won't have this (only scart) or seperate analogue cord such as red/white/yellow.

So if it is an older player without HDMI, you should replace the device with a bluray player. You can then connect with HDMI, and adjust the resolution output of the player to 1080p (full HD) and enable 24fps if it has that. Not forgetting switching it to widescreen 16x9 mode. This should give the best results on DVD and Blu-ray Discs.

In general, DVD is SD quality - just like one of the regular live to channels (not the HD versions). Actually the data capacity on DVD is quite good so pre-recorded DVD pictures should look a bit better than regular sd tv channels. With this in mind, how bad do those regular sd tv channels look on the new tv. If you get similar poor results with those it may simply be that the tv manufacturer has cut costs by putting in a really cheap, poor scaler (on the assumption that most things are now in HD quality via live tv and bluray).”

Thanks for that..will try all that. Yes its the cheapest panasonic so probably hasnt got good upscaling.
-GONZO-
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“Thanks for that..will try all that. Yes its the cheapest panasonic so probably hasnt got good upscaling.”

The thing you have to understand with movies on DVD are that they all have varying levels of quality due to how much compression the main feature may have which can have an impact on what the end result maybe on a larger HD screen.
Due to the limited space on a DVD and depending on how long the film is, how many audio tracks, how many different language subtitles, how much special features etc may mean that some films are compressed slightly more to fit it all on one disc so will look poor when blown up on a larger screen.
In all honesty I think you should be looking at upgrading your current DVD player to a Blu-ray player which you can play your current DVDs on if you wish.
Nigel Goodwin
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by -GONZO-:
“In all honesty I think you should be looking at upgrading your current DVD player to a Blu-ray player which you can play your current DVDs on if you wish.”

It's not going to make much difference (if any), although a BD Player 'may' have a better scaler than his TV, which will give a slight improvement.

His main problem is viewing SD at MUCH too close a distance, it's always going to look excessively poor - because he's not viewing from the correct distance.

What he needs is a BD Player AND to play BD's rather than DVD's.
mooghead
20-08-2016
4 feet? Put your nose against the screen and complain about the picture. Same thing.
mal2pool
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by -GONZO-:
“The thing you have to understand with movies on DVD are that they all have varying levels of quality due to how much compression the main feature may have which can have an impact on what the end result maybe on a larger HD screen.
Due to the limited space on a DVD and depending on how long the film is, how many audio tracks, how many different language subtitles, how much special features etc may mean that some films are compressed slightly more to fit it all on one disc so will look poor when blown up on a larger screen.
In all honesty I think you should be looking at upgrading your current DVD player to a Blu-ray player which you can play your current DVDs on if you wish.”

i have a blu ray player but own mostly dvds. and its actually 10 feet from the screen !
JurassicMark
20-08-2016
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“i have a blu ray player but own mostly dvds. and its actually 10 feet from the screen !”

When you asked in your OP "do i need a new dvd player", I think most posters assumed that's what you currently have, not a Blu-ray player.

Also for clarification, you watched your old TV from 4 feet away but watch your current TV from 10 feet away, is that correct?

I responded to your thread in the TV forum: Gladiator C4 HD tonight. Besides what other posters have already said, I think you may still have in mind how much better that HD broadcast looked in comparison to your DVD copy of Gladiator, which has perhaps raised the bar in terms of what you now judge as a good picture. I may be wrong but why not get a Blu-ray version of Gladiator?
David (2)
21-08-2016
Getting a bit confused now,
But if you already have a bluray player, have u made sure the output is set to 1080p full HD, and not something like 576i or 480p.

Sorry if I am stating the obvious,
anthony david
21-08-2016
Originally Posted by mal2pool:
“i have a blu ray player but own mostly dvds. and its actually 10 feet from the screen !”

So 21 posts later you suddenly have a Blu-ray player, it is 10ft from the screen but you are 4ft. People sometimes contact this forum with hypothetical problems with the aim of winding people up, helps pass the time in their meaningless lives I suppose. Are you one of those?
CappySpectrum
21-08-2016
Originally Posted by mooghead:
“4 feet? Put your nose against the screen and complain about the picture. Same thing.”

Crazy. I usually sit 6 - 7 ft away from a 46" and 8 - 9 from a 50 inch.

Then of course only the good TVs and players have the good upscaling chips. Not something you'll see on a £300 TV and £50 - £80 player.
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