Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“I hated Frankie on BBUS. But this is a damn lie. He did no such thing.”
“I hated Frankie on BBUS. But this is a damn lie. He did no such thing.”
Someone posted the video on the forum, sorry but I don't have the link.
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Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Someone posted the video on the forum, sorry but I don't have the link.”
“Someone posted the video on the forum, sorry but I don't have the link.”
I've seen the video. I've heard the video. You find me anywhere that the word "rape" or even "force" is used in it. It wasn't. He was making jokes about people having sex with her. Not forcibly. And that's not rape.
Not to mention that he was one of about five guys all chipping in to the conversation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu8RBCNWidI
Frankie joking about rape...even Beast Mode Cowboy (Caleb) and Derrick got uncomfortable and made comments to that effect
Frankie joking about rape...even Beast Mode Cowboy (Caleb) and Derrick got uncomfortable and made comments to that effect
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu8RBCNWidI
Frankie joking about rape...even Beast Mode Cowboy (Caleb) and Derrick got uncomfortable and made comments to that effect”
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu8RBCNWidI
Frankie joking about rape...even Beast Mode Cowboy (Caleb) and Derrick got uncomfortable and made comments to that effect”
Please give me the time stamp of when the word "rape" or even "force" was used.
As to Derrick or "Beast Mode" (that tells me a lot about you that you'd even use that assinine name) .... they were joining in on the whole convo. Laughing and joking.
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“Please give me the time stamp of when the word "rape" or even "force" was used.
As to Derrick or "Beast Mode" (that tells me a lot about you that you'd even use that assinine name) .... they were joining in on the whole convo. Laughing and joking.”
“Please give me the time stamp of when the word "rape" or even "force" was used.
As to Derrick or "Beast Mode" (that tells me a lot about you that you'd even use that assinine name) .... they were joining in on the whole convo. Laughing and joking.”
He never said the word rape but the context is clear imo (get her passed out drunk then double team her).
Caleb said that's inappropriate and Derrick said if he were her dad watching this he would have bashed in his computer. Everyone can watch the clip and judge for themselves. I do think he was joking and didn't realize how nasty it came across. I don't think Frankie really wanted them to do anything and was just being very inappropriate and vile. He has come across much better on CBB so he likely learned from him BBUSA experience (good for him).
I also don't think it should be held against him in this show. I just posted it because someone mentioned it and said they didn't have the link. I'm still not a Frankie fan but I dislike him less than I use to dislike him.
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“He never said the word rape but the context is clear imo (get her passed out drunk then double team her).
Caleb said that's inappropriate and Derrick said if he were her dad watching this he would have bashed in his computer. Everyone can watch the clip and judge for themselves. I do think he was joking and didn't realize how nasty it came across. I don't think Frankie really wanted them to do anything and was just being very inappropriate and vile. He has come across much better on CBB so he likely learned from him BBUSA experience (good for him).
I also don't think it should be held against him in this show. I just posted it because someone mentioned it and said they didn't have the link. I'm still not a Frankie fan but I dislike him less than I use to dislike him.”
“He never said the word rape but the context is clear imo (get her passed out drunk then double team her).
Caleb said that's inappropriate and Derrick said if he were her dad watching this he would have bashed in his computer. Everyone can watch the clip and judge for themselves. I do think he was joking and didn't realize how nasty it came across. I don't think Frankie really wanted them to do anything and was just being very inappropriate and vile. He has come across much better on CBB so he likely learned from him BBUSA experience (good for him).
I also don't think it should be held against him in this show. I just posted it because someone mentioned it and said they didn't have the link. I'm still not a Frankie fan but I dislike him less than I use to dislike him.”
Yeah, thanks for posting.
I just checked the comments in that thread, watched the video and was disappointed. It's clear what was being inferred.
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Yeah, thanks for posting.
I just checked the comments in that thread, watched the video and was disappointed. It's clear what was being inferred.”
“Yeah, thanks for posting.
I just checked the comments in that thread, watched the video and was disappointed. It's clear what was being inferred.”
Well sure. Condemn someone on something you are adding into the clip (inferring is something your're concluding not something actually there) and by the comments random internet cretins make.
Originally Posted by cah:
“No I don't want any of the 3 to win ,wouldn't mind Renee in Top 3 but that's about all”
“No I don't want any of the 3 to win ,wouldn't mind Renee in Top 3 but that's about all”
If an American wants to win CBB , then go in the American CBB or are they not good enough to go in there
Renne has given as much to the show as anyone and lightyears more than most of them.
Renne would be a deserving winner , much more than for example sam ricky or katie who have given nothing.
Renne would be a deserving winner , much more than for example sam ricky or katie who have given nothing.
Originally Posted by lon_chaney:
“Renne has given as much to the show as anyone and lightyears more than most of them.
Renne would be a deserving winner , much more than for example sam ricky or katie who have given nothing.”
“Renne has given as much to the show as anyone and lightyears more than most of them.
Renne would be a deserving winner , much more than for example sam ricky or katie who have given nothing.”
I'd agree with that. I like all the Americans. I think Frankie is the nicest out of the bunch (well, i like him the most anyway) but Renee's entertained me most. I'd be surprised but very happy if she won.
I am not a fan of Aubrey or Frankie, but wouldn't mind Renee winning. It won't happen as we know Boar is the script winner...
I think all three have been good HMs and would be worthy winners. Being American should not be a criteria to win or not win. Frankie has embraced the whole experience, been hugely entertaining, although much of that didn't make the HLs. He as integrated with most HMs, has challenged behaviour and been a peace maker. Renee is just a brilliant HM. She has been house mother, looked after people, had massive fights, been really vocal and outspoken and has the best cartoon voice. I really like Aubrey, she has been the reasoned, intelligent voice in the house. She is astute and has the ability to deliver hard punches in the least confrontational way. I understand that many people can't get over spitting gate, but I loved her for that. It happened at the peak of Bear's hounding and goading and he was so frustrating and loathsome. It was what most of them would have loved to do, but she did it. I have to say that Bear's took it surprisingly well and was clearly not upset by it, which has helped make the episode outrageous, but shockingly delightful. I really like Ricky, but he has not earned the right to win - he has not been present enough. Katie has been a people pleaser, flying under the radar until the last week and now she has decided to be a bit of a two-faced back stabber. I find her fake. Sam has largely sat around doing little, staying under the radar and is now getting a bit mardy. Bear has been an absolute beast. I recognise that he has entertained many people, but at the expense of other HMs misery. If he won, it would be a victory for nastiness.
I normally like American HMs - I find them to be very articulate and usually quite intelligent.
I'm not warming to any of these however - I can't quite put my finger on it.
I quite like a game player, but Frankie and Aubrey are desperate! And a little underhand too - they are not leaving it to chance that they vote for the same HMs, they are having conversations which make absolutely sure they are on the same page!
I'm not warming to any of these however - I can't quite put my finger on it.
I quite like a game player, but Frankie and Aubrey are desperate! And a little underhand too - they are not leaving it to chance that they vote for the same HMs, they are having conversations which make absolutely sure they are on the same page!
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“I think all three have been good HMs and would be worthy winners. Being American should not be a criteria to win or not win. Frankie has embraced the whole experience, been hugely entertaining, although much of that didn't make the HLs. He as integrated with most HMs, has challenged behaviour and been a peace maker. Renee is just a brilliant HM. She has been house mother, looked after people, had massive fights, been really vocal and outspoken and has the best cartoon voice. I really like Aubrey, she has been the reasoned, intelligent voice in the house. She is astute and has the ability to deliver hard punches in the least confrontational way. I understand that many people can't get over spitting gate, but I loved her for that. It happened at the peak of Bear's hounding and goading and he was so frustrating and loathsome. It was what most of them would have loved to do, but she did it. I have to say that Bear's took it surprisingly well and was clearly not upset by it, which has helped make the episode outrageous, but shockingly delightful. I really like Ricky, but he has not earned the right to win - he has not been present enough. Katie has been a people pleaser, flying under the radar until the last week and now she has decided to be a bit of a two-faced back stabber. I find her fake. Sam has largely sat around doing little, staying under the radar and is now getting a bit mardy. Bear has been an absolute beast. I recognise that he has entertained many people, but at the expense of other HMs misery. If he won, it would be a victory for nastiness.”
“I think all three have been good HMs and would be worthy winners. Being American should not be a criteria to win or not win. Frankie has embraced the whole experience, been hugely entertaining, although much of that didn't make the HLs. He as integrated with most HMs, has challenged behaviour and been a peace maker. Renee is just a brilliant HM. She has been house mother, looked after people, had massive fights, been really vocal and outspoken and has the best cartoon voice. I really like Aubrey, she has been the reasoned, intelligent voice in the house. She is astute and has the ability to deliver hard punches in the least confrontational way. I understand that many people can't get over spitting gate, but I loved her for that. It happened at the peak of Bear's hounding and goading and he was so frustrating and loathsome. It was what most of them would have loved to do, but she did it. I have to say that Bear's took it surprisingly well and was clearly not upset by it, which has helped make the episode outrageous, but shockingly delightful. I really like Ricky, but he has not earned the right to win - he has not been present enough. Katie has been a people pleaser, flying under the radar until the last week and now she has decided to be a bit of a two-faced back stabber. I find her fake. Sam has largely sat around doing little, staying under the radar and is now getting a bit mardy. Bear has been an absolute beast. I recognise that he has entertained many people, but at the expense of other HMs misery. If he won, it would be a victory for nastiness.”
What a well written and accurate post. I really enjoyed the read and agree with all of it.
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“I think all three have been good HMs and would be worthy winners. Being American should not be a criteria to win or not win. Frankie has embraced the whole experience, been hugely entertaining, although much of that didn't make the HLs. He as integrated with most HMs, has challenged behaviour and been a peace maker. Renee is just a brilliant HM. She has been house mother, looked after people, had massive fights, been really vocal and outspoken and has the best cartoon voice. I really like Aubrey, she has been the reasoned, intelligent voice in the house. She is astute and has the ability to deliver hard punches in the least confrontational way. I understand that many people can't get over spitting gate, but I loved her for that. It happened at the peak of Bear's hounding and goading and he was so frustrating and loathsome. It was what most of them would have loved to do, but she did it. I have to say that Bear's took it surprisingly well and was clearly not upset by it, which has helped make the episode outrageous, but shockingly delightful. I really like Ricky, but he has not earned the right to win - he has not been present enough. Katie has been a people pleaser, flying under the radar until the last week and now she has decided to be a bit of a two-faced back stabber. I find her fake. Sam has largely sat around doing little, staying under the radar and is now getting a bit mardy. Bear has been an absolute beast. I recognise that he has entertained many people, but at the expense of other HMs misery. If he won, it would be a victory for nastiness.”
“I think all three have been good HMs and would be worthy winners. Being American should not be a criteria to win or not win. Frankie has embraced the whole experience, been hugely entertaining, although much of that didn't make the HLs. He as integrated with most HMs, has challenged behaviour and been a peace maker. Renee is just a brilliant HM. She has been house mother, looked after people, had massive fights, been really vocal and outspoken and has the best cartoon voice. I really like Aubrey, she has been the reasoned, intelligent voice in the house. She is astute and has the ability to deliver hard punches in the least confrontational way. I understand that many people can't get over spitting gate, but I loved her for that. It happened at the peak of Bear's hounding and goading and he was so frustrating and loathsome. It was what most of them would have loved to do, but she did it. I have to say that Bear's took it surprisingly well and was clearly not upset by it, which has helped make the episode outrageous, but shockingly delightful. I really like Ricky, but he has not earned the right to win - he has not been present enough. Katie has been a people pleaser, flying under the radar until the last week and now she has decided to be a bit of a two-faced back stabber. I find her fake. Sam has largely sat around doing little, staying under the radar and is now getting a bit mardy. Bear has been an absolute beast. I recognise that he has entertained many people, but at the expense of other HMs misery. If he won, it would be a victory for nastiness.”
Bravo... Very well said...
Sometime I am thinking being Americans are disadvantage for them. If they are British people will Be thinking differently.
Originally Posted by Cat-:
“I don't see why.
What we've seen is a concerted effort of all three ganging up and nominating to get out the opposing competition that's anyone who is not American.
So no, I'm not impressed with them at all. And no I don't want any of them to win.”
“I don't see why.
What we've seen is a concerted effort of all three ganging up and nominating to get out the opposing competition that's anyone who is not American.
So no, I'm not impressed with them at all. And no I don't want any of them to win.”
Totally agree Cat and Katie has gone along with them too most of the time! I can't stand Renee or Katie and not bothered about Frankie either way. I liked Aubrey but cannot condone her winning because she spat in Bears drink and sandwich!
Ricky is my winner!
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“I think all three have been good HMs and would be worthy winners. Being American should not be a criteria to win or not win. Frankie has embraced the whole experience, been hugely entertaining, although much of that didn't make the HLs. He as integrated with most HMs, has challenged behaviour and been a peace maker. Renee is just a brilliant HM. She has been house mother, looked after people, had massive fights, been really vocal and outspoken and has the best cartoon voice. I really like Aubrey, she has been the reasoned, intelligent voice in the house. She is astute and has the ability to deliver hard punches in the least confrontational way. I understand that many people can't get over spitting gate, but I loved her for that. It happened at the peak of Bear's hounding and goading and he was so frustrating and loathsome. It was what most of them would have loved to do, but she did it. I have to say that Bear's took it surprisingly well and was clearly not upset by it, which has helped make the episode outrageous, but shockingly delightful. I really like Ricky, but he has not earned the right to win - he has not been present enough. Katie has been a people pleaser, flying under the radar until the last week and now she has decided to be a bit of a two-faced back stabber. I find her fake. Sam has largely sat around doing little, staying under the radar and is now getting a bit mardy. Bear has been an absolute beast. I recognise that he has entertained many people, but at the expense of other HMs misery. If he won, it would be a victory for nastiness.”
“I think all three have been good HMs and would be worthy winners. Being American should not be a criteria to win or not win. Frankie has embraced the whole experience, been hugely entertaining, although much of that didn't make the HLs. He as integrated with most HMs, has challenged behaviour and been a peace maker. Renee is just a brilliant HM. She has been house mother, looked after people, had massive fights, been really vocal and outspoken and has the best cartoon voice. I really like Aubrey, she has been the reasoned, intelligent voice in the house. She is astute and has the ability to deliver hard punches in the least confrontational way. I understand that many people can't get over spitting gate, but I loved her for that. It happened at the peak of Bear's hounding and goading and he was so frustrating and loathsome. It was what most of them would have loved to do, but she did it. I have to say that Bear's took it surprisingly well and was clearly not upset by it, which has helped make the episode outrageous, but shockingly delightful. I really like Ricky, but he has not earned the right to win - he has not been present enough. Katie has been a people pleaser, flying under the radar until the last week and now she has decided to be a bit of a two-faced back stabber. I find her fake. Sam has largely sat around doing little, staying under the radar and is now getting a bit mardy. Bear has been an absolute beast. I recognise that he has entertained many people, but at the expense of other HMs misery. If he won, it would be a victory for nastiness.”
Great, saved me typing my thoughts on it all
considering who's left in there, I wouldnt mind Frankie or Renee winning, anybody but Bear,Marnie or Ricky
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