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Old 21-08-2016, 23:08
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Would anyone like to see this? Some new characters with no connection to the street? That means not turning out to be the secret child/sibling/parent/cousin of an established character, or knowing any of the characters before. It would feel more realistic.

Can't remember the last time this happened, it was probably with the Morton clan who from what I remember didn't know anyone on the street when the arrived. And back in the 1990s the Des Barnes and his wife were knew and didn't know anyone.

Would make a change instead of someone always coincidentally being related to someone, or being some unheard friend/family member.
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Old 21-08-2016, 23:20
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This is definitely needed and is something Corrie is crying out for. Also a family who arrives with a bit of a bang and shakes things up, just the Corrie did in the past with the Ogdens, Duckworths and Battersbys. I don't mean a 'chavvy' family or 'neighbours from hell', but just someone to change the status quo.

I wish all soaps would stop with the introduction of random extended families and long-list siblings. It's dull and boring. Can't they create new characters who exist in their own right?

The Nazirs were technically the last new family with no connections to appear on the street, but they were built around the ghastly Kal character for Jimi Mistry, so their status as having 'no connections' is somewhat debatable.
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Old 21-08-2016, 23:22
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I'd like to see a family turn up on moving day as completely new faces, with no prior connections to anyone on the street.
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Old 21-08-2016, 23:36
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It's been said before but I think Jodie Prenger is perfect for CS and I would really like to see her as part of a new family
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Old 21-08-2016, 23:49
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I'd like to see a family turn up on moving day as completely new faces, with no prior connections to anyone on the street.
The last family I genuinely thought were a breath of fresh air were the Harris'.......how long ago was that? Came in a shroud of mystery, and the whole witness protection thing was very original. Didn't like the Mortons, and the Windasses........pure trash.

I don't get why the Nazirs abandoned that lovely house they had for a small, cramped home on the street.
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Old 22-08-2016, 00:06
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The last family I genuinely thought were a breath of fresh air were the Harris'.......how long ago was that? Came in a shroud of mystery, and the whole witness protection thing was very original. Didn't like the Mortons, and the Windasses........pure trash.

I don't get why the Nazirs abandoned that lovely house they had for a small, cramped home on the street.
The Nelsons (as they were known when they first arrived) were a great addition to the show, and made their 'shroud of mystery' arrival just as the Richard Hillman storyline was reaching its crescendo. They arrived at the perfect time because while the high drama of the Hillman saga was unfolding, they were allowed to quietly establish themselves in the shadows. They slowly referenced the family being in witness protection bit by bit and it picked up pace when the Hillman storyline reached its climax. How ironic that they got moved to a safe house that was sandwiched neatly between the home of a serial killer and his final victim I remember Angela being on edge the night that Maxine was murdered because she thought the people who were after them had returned. The same thing happened again the night that Richard Hillman returned and kidnapped the Platts. Great stuff.
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Old 22-08-2016, 00:09
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The last family I genuinely thought were a breath of fresh air were the Harris'.......how long ago was that? Came in a shroud of mystery, and the whole witness protection thing was very original. Didn't like the Mortons, and the Windasses........pure trash.

I don't get why the Nazirs abandoned that lovely house they had for a small, cramped home on the street.
The Harris family were a great addition & made for a lot of superb drama during their time on the show!! It helped they were all played by quality actors!!
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Old 22-08-2016, 00:33
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The Nelsons (as they were known when they first arrived) were a great addition to the show, and made their 'shroud of mystery' arrival just as the Richard Hillman storyline was reaching its crescendo. They arrived at the perfect time because while the high drama of the Hillman saga was unfolding, they were allowed to quietly establish themselves in the shadows. They slowly referenced the family being in witness protection bit by bit and it picked up pace when the Hillman storyline reached its climax. How ironic that they got moved to a safe house that was sandwiched neatly between the home of a serial killer and his final victim I remember Angela being on edge the night that Maxine was murdered because she thought the people who were after them had returned. The same thing happened again the night that Richard Hillman returned and kidnapped the Platts. Great stuff.
Amazing! Corrie was on fire back then.
The Harris family were very good.
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Old 22-08-2016, 00:42
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The Harris family were a great addition & made for a lot of superb drama during their time on the show!! It helped they were all played by quality actors!!
Great actors, especially Thomas Craig (Tommy) and Kathryn Hunt (Angela) who were a fantastic on screen partnership. They were, hands down, one of the best married couples of the early 2000s and had the potential to be much better if they had stayed around longer. They had genuine love and adoration for each other, yet their arguments and fallouts were really vicious and hurtful. I always remember one scene that was close to Tommy's death when he shouted at Angela "Put a cake in it you fat bitch!" and then went on to liken her appearance to the wrestler Giant Haystacks.

You'd never get dialogue like that these days.
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Old 22-08-2016, 10:00
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................I don't get why the Nazirs abandoned that lovely house they had for a small, cramped home on the street.
Especially since the grandmother had apparently commuted to the local library for years as Head Librarian. And Kal had "over 60 clients throughout the north west".
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Old 22-08-2016, 10:40
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Didn't like the Mortons, and the Windasses........pure trash.
I actually thought the Mortons were starting to pick up a bit when they were axed. IIRC the oldest daughter (who couldn't act) had gone. I wasn't fussed for the youngest two kids but I loved that Mel (?) was a copper (someone with ambition! what a breath of fresh air) and Daryl was a decent character. I liked the dad too.
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Old 22-08-2016, 10:48
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Who lives in the flats apart from Nick and Johnny and where is Robert living now?
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Old 22-08-2016, 11:06
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I don't mind who a new family are just as long as they are not more damn Connors.
The whole street is infected with them!
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Old 22-08-2016, 11:22
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I actually thought the Mortons were starting to pick up a bit when they were axed. IIRC the oldest daughter (who couldn't act) had gone. I wasn't fussed for the youngest two kids but I loved that Mel (?) was a copper (someone with ambition! what a breath of fresh air) and Daryl was a decent character. I liked the dad too.
The problem with the Mortons was that they were the ultimate case of soap producers trying too hard. They got excited that they had iconic soap actor Michael Starke (Sinbad in Brookie) and built this huge, clunky family around him. I can easily imagine the production team getting over excited in their planning meetings with a flipchart and some whiteboard pens and creating this huge, unruly mob of terrible characters. Suddenly the three-bedroomed No.6 was descended upon by Sinbad from Brookside, four of his own kids (three of whom were already adults) as well as the illegitimate Finlay. Then there was grandad and, later, the monster that was Theresa. There were simply too many of them. Does anyone even remember the grandad?!

Jodie, the eldest daughter was the standout character of the original Morton lineup and her relationship as surrogate mother to her siblings was meant to be the main focus of their original stories, but the actress left within a few months of joining the show in what remains one of Corrie's biggest mysteries.

I had no interest in the other siblings. Darryl was a weak precursor to the Graeme Proctor character and while they tried to make the other sister, Mel, interesting, her ambitions to join the police force were nothing but dull, dull, dull. The third sister, Kayleigh, was a complete non-entity, as was Finlay.

The only decent character was Theresa who could have easily appeared as a character in her own right without the ridiculous family connections. It's ironic that she stayed in the show longer than any of her family, even though she was only ever intended as a background antagonist. I'd actually like to see Theresa back on the show, she's the type of character that doesn't need connections or family to make an impact.
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Old 22-08-2016, 11:57
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I'd like to see a new family come in and run The Rovers. Max Beesley would be perfect as landlord (I can dream), with his wife and a couple of kids. No previous connection to the street, no secret reason for being there, just fresh faces behind the bar. I love Steve but he needs to concentrate on Streetcars and get himself away from the pub.
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Old 22-08-2016, 12:11
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You have to be careful introducing a new family.

Do they all arrive in the same week? Or build up over a few months?
Are they background characters for their first year?
Do each of the characters work both as a family unit, and with other unrelated characters?
Do they get lots of screentime? Or a little, building up to equal.
Is there a storyline or 2 for them?
Are there currently too many undeveloped characters that need work first?

Neighbours the Timmins and Willis family (the original 90s one) came in dribs and drabs and were more popular then the Parkers who turned up, instantly started a fued with Kennedys, and dominated lots of screentime.
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Old 22-08-2016, 12:16
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It's been said before but I think Jodie Prenger is perfect for CS and I would really like to see her as part of a new family
Yes she would be good, but I cant imagine her wanting to do it.
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Old 22-08-2016, 12:20
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I hated the Mortons because within a few episodes they seemed to be linked to flipping everyone in the street - they were thrown in and not allowed time to mellow. Everything feels rushed with Corrie in recent years.

I'd love to see a female doctor and her husband join, or a Polish family (I live in Manchester and I have Polish friends and it's almost odd there aren't any in Corrie).
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Old 22-08-2016, 12:39
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I hated the Mortons because within a few episodes they seemed to be linked to flipping everyone in the street - they were thrown in and not allowed time to mellow. Everything feels rushed with Corrie in recent years.

I'd love to see a female doctor and her husband join, or a Polish family (I live in Manchester and I have Polish friends and it's almost odd there aren't any in Corrie).
I was thinking along the same lines of a doctor (possibly single but preferably married), from the medical centre moving into Victoria Court.
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Old 22-08-2016, 13:20
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I would like to see a family with morals and values and work hard for their living. A married couple with teenagers who aren't sl ags or players would be lovely.
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Old 22-08-2016, 17:10
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The problem with the Mortons was that they were the ultimate case of soap producers trying too hard. They got excited that they had iconic soap actor Michael Starke (Sinbad in Brookie) and built this huge, clunky family around him. I can easily imagine the production team getting over excited in their planning meetings with a flipchart and some whiteboard pens and creating this huge, unruly mob of terrible characters. Suddenly the three-bedroomed No.6 was descended upon by Sinbad from Brookside, four of his own kids (three of whom were already adults) as well as the illegitimate Finlay. Then there was grandad and, later, the monster that was Theresa. There were simply too many of them. Does anyone even remember the grandad?!

Jodie, the eldest daughter was the standout character of the original Morton lineup and her relationship as surrogate mother to her siblings was meant to be the main focus of their original stories, but the actress left within a few months of joining the show in what remains one of Corrie's biggest mysteries.

I had no interest in the other siblings. Darryl was a weak precursor to the Graeme Proctor character and while they tried to make the other sister, Mel, interesting, her ambitions to join the police force were nothing but dull, dull, dull. The third sister, Kayleigh, was a complete non-entity, as was Finlay.

The only decent character was Theresa who could have easily appeared as a character in her own right without the ridiculous family connections. It's ironic that she stayed in the show longer than any of her family, even though she was only ever intended as a background antagonist. I'd actually like to see Theresa back on the show, she's the type of character that doesn't need connections or family to make an impact.
I liked Theresa. Pity Lloyd let her go in favour for that bland stripper.
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Old 22-08-2016, 17:10
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I hated the Mortons because within a few episodes they seemed to be linked to flipping everyone in the street - they were thrown in and not allowed time to mellow. Everything feels rushed with Corrie in recent years.

I'd love to see a female doctor and her husband join, or a Polish family (I live in Manchester and I have Polish friends and it's almost odd there aren't any in Corrie).
I definitely think that a Polish or, more broadly speaking, non-British family should be a key aim for Corrie. The show is so focused on creating these cosy northern stereotypes that it's lost all connection to the UK or the world more widely. Manchester is a vibrant city and even its suburbs are home to thousands of people who aren't northern. There isn't even anyone in the current cast who isn't 'northern'.

You all know that I like to bring everything back to Corrie's 'glory' days, but the show has always included 'outsiders' as a central part of the how the cast is constructed. Whether it was Irish barmaid Concepta Regan or 'that Pole that Linda Tanner married' (Ivan Cheveski) from the original cast or southerners like Dave Smith and the iconic Mike Baldwin, their difference from the majority of the residents of Coronation Street was an important feature and they had an important role within the cast more widely. There's none of that today.

There is one big problem with introducing non-British characters from a production aspect, which is why I don't think it happens very often and that's language.

A family would speak their first language when alone in the comfort of their own home or even when together on the street/in the pub, so if we did have a Polish family in Corrie, we'd expect scenes of them to be played out in Polish to keep things believable. I recently caught part of an episode of Hollyoaks where Myra's husband (don't know his name) was arguing with his sister in private and they were both speaking English. This jarred with me a lot as surely they would have argued in Spanish or whatever their first language is?

Having a British or English speaking partner or spouse could 'force' the family to speak English as much as possible but it would be somewhat awkward. It's a huge departure for Corrie but I'd even welcome some subtitled scenes with characters speaking in different languages from time to time.
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Old 22-08-2016, 17:20
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The last family I genuinely thought were a breath of fresh air were the Harris'.......how long ago was that? Came in a shroud of mystery, and the whole witness protection thing was very original. Didn't like the Mortons, and the Windasses........pure trash.

I don't get why the Nazirs abandoned that lovely house they had for a small, cramped home on the street.
Perhaps they like the hipster life style on Corry street
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Old 22-08-2016, 17:41
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Great actors, especially Thomas Craig (Tommy) and Kathryn Hunt (Angela) who were a fantastic on screen partnership. They were, hands down, one of the best married couples of the early 2000s and had the potential to be much better if they had stayed around longer. They had genuine love and adoration for each other, yet their arguments and fallouts were really vicious and hurtful. I always remember one scene that was close to Tommy's death when he shouted at Angela "Put a cake in it you fat bitch!" and then went on to liken her appearance to the wrestler Giant Haystacks.

You'd never get dialogue like that these days.


The actors made it a believable family unit. It helped that all of the characters had decent material......Katy's diabetes storyline was told at a time when the Corrie planners did their research!

Always thought Richard Fleeshman was a cracking child actor......good to see him doing well on the stage; seems the sort dedicated to the profession.

I hated the Mortons because within a few episodes they seemed to be linked to flipping everyone in the street - they were thrown in and not allowed time to mellow. Everything feels rushed with Corrie in recent years.

I'd love to see a female doctor and her husband join, or a Polish family (I live in Manchester and I have Polish friends and it's almost odd there aren't any in Corrie).
I imagined they would introduce Wiki's family when she joined the factory.
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