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Old 22-08-2016, 22:47
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I know! That face. So frosty she could've frozen the garden for the Xmas task if they'd had the forethought to pee her off before they forked out for fake snow.
It truly is quite some ego Sam has - although I imagine that ego has kept her going all these years. You need an ego to be in any kind of 'showbiz' circle I imagine, be you A or Z lister. The only product you have to sell is yourself, so you have to believe in it!
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:52
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No, it wasn't about being nominated - she was calmly saying she didn't believe he nominated her because she was a strong opponent when others were clearly stronger as they'd been saved at eviction and she hadn't.

She kicked off when the word weak came up, Frankie said he didn't think she was weak, Aubrey said there'd been 'talk' about weakness and instability - THAT is what she kicked off at and seemed to assume it was Frankie who had said it, although Aubrey named no names.

Katie seems incredibly concerned about how she's being perceived by people - housemates, public - and didn't like the idea at all of being perceived as weak and unstable.

It wasn't about nominations.
It was about nominations or rather Frankie nominating her. She specifically said that she didn't believe Frankie's reasons for nominating her as she hasn't proved with a public vote that she is a threat. She intimated he was false and a liar because of his reasons for nominating her.

I always think the threat thing is a cop out nomination reason but most of them have used it including Katie I am sure. What were Katie's reasons for nominating Frankie as I missed that? He said in their conversation on the bed he thought she was coming for him and then said 'well you did' and she stumbled over explaining that.

She has lost it and she doesn't even seem to know why herself
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:53
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It truly is quite some ego Sam has - although I imagine that ego has kept her going all these years. You need an ego to be in any kind of 'showbiz' circle I imagine, be you A or Z lister. The only product you have to sell is yourself, so you have to believe in it!
Absolutely. And I think she was managed by Myra (think that's right) and I imagine she was probably had a regular pep talk about how fabulous she is. When you live with your PR machine you're going to take on board all the good stuff and believe the hype.

Her ego is off putting in there but I still like her. Our Sam is from another era.
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:55
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No, it wasn't about being nominated - she was calmly saying she didn't believe he nominated her because she was a strong opponent when others were clearly stronger as they'd been saved at eviction and she hadn't.

She kicked off when the word weak came up, Frankie said he didn't think she was weak, Aubrey said there'd been 'talk' about weakness and instability - THAT is what she kicked off at and seemed to assume it was Frankie who had said it, although Aubrey named no names.

Katie seems incredibly concerned about how she's being perceived by people - housemates, public - and didn't like the idea at all of being perceived as weak and unstable.

It wasn't about nominations.
My perception is that it WAS about the noms - Frankie even had to remind her that she'd nommed him.

She just didn't believe the 'reason' so she dug and dug, and Aubrey stuck her oar in and then Katie ASSUMED that Frankie had said she was unstable.

She seemed to want her FEARS confirmed, got it from AUBREY, and then went off piste.

She was unconvinced by Frankie's reasons, but ALSO outraged that he picked her at all - I think. She did keep saying 'they were friends'..

She is desperate to be in the final and not have to face the public vote.

Her desperation and fear and nutdom, to be honest, then came out in the worst way for her really.

I'm not sure that some of it wasn't divadom either, and attention seeking.
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:57
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Don't you think it foolhardy? A bit stupid?

She knows she didn't deal with it well the last time around - why put herself through it again?

I struggle to feel any sympathy for her tbh and the histrionics really didn't help.

Hiya muggsy, btw
She's not the first person to underestimate the BB house and she won't be the last.

I think she must have talked herself into thinking that she would be ok if she was just really nice to people and avoided confrontation.

But you really have to have a long hard look at yourself before you put yourself in the BB house - and work out what your character failings are, because they will almost definitely be shown up.

And her character failings (if you'll excuse the term) are that she is weak and insecure and not very confident or articulate - exactly the type of things which are going to be brought into stark contrast when in a house filled with big personalities.

This meltdown was always waiting to happen, unless she happened to sail through the process to the final without a hitch. She is just not strong enough for this experience.
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Old 22-08-2016, 22:57
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She just has a massive ego and think she should be able to nominate anyone but not be nominated.The girl is simply deluded as to her popularity.
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:00
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Get the evil snake Frankie out. Katie has seen the serpernts true nature



You do know that they ALL nominated someone don't you. Why is Frankie an evil snake for doing what everyone else (including Katie) did?
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:01
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It was about nominations or rather Frankie nominating her. She specifically said that she didn't believe Frankie's reasons for nominating her as she hasn't proved with a public vote that she is a threat. She intimated he was false and a liar because of his reasons for nominating her.

I always think the threat thing is a cop out nomination reason but most of them have used it including Katie I am sure. What were Katie's reasons for nominating Frankie as I missed that? He said in their conversation on the bed he thought she was coming for him and then said 'well you did' and she stumbled over explaining that.

She has lost it and she doesn't even seem to know why herself
She lost it when the suggestion on weakness and instability was mentioned, not when they were talking about nominations specifically. Those two words are what triggered her subsequent 'losing it'.
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:02
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she's as unhinged as a revolving door
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:02
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Expect she's likely cracking a bit more now at the thought and feeling of facing the public. She's clearly overly nervous to see the response she get's. You've got to take into account that this is a woman who was ridiculed and humiliated the last time she was in the public eye on a reality show in this country in a voting competition.

She's ultimately come on here to try to change the perception some had of her and now she's likely worried of it not changing and instead getting a bad response from the public/viewers. Quite understandable but she had to have known that coming in. I think she's caught in a tough place in wanting to change peoples views of her and it's now having a real effect on her.




Yes, it's not going too well now is it?
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:06
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Yes, it's not going too well now is it?
Hi Bunions

Yes, in retrospect I imagine she thinks it was a foolish idea too, although the offer of big bucks probably tempts a lot of people to do thinks they normally wouldn't - perhaps she felt she was over it after 6 years and that the public might be too, but it's obviously played on her mind the whole time too.

I think that the house has been unstable too, what with all the tension from various sources - and having somebody like Heavy D telling her she wasn't worthy of being on the show and that he was more relevant than her - to which she replied very well I thought - can't help. Who knows if she's had other put-downs in there or not over the weeks.

She obviously has a self-esteem problem, she's not the first housemate to suffer with that kind of problem though, but she really shouldn't have let Aubrey wind her up like that (and it was Aubrey planting those seeds, she just didn't click to that because they share a bed and she thinks they are mates). Aubrey set Frankie and Katie up there in this particular scenario, in my opinion.



Quite. I actually think that Aubrey is the most 'roofless' one in there. There's an underlying manipulative nastiness to her.
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:12
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Quite. I actually think that Aubrey is the most 'roofless' one in there. There's an underlying manipulative nastiness to her.
I like her, she plays the game well. I think she's the only person in there who Bear admires, he sees her playing the game. She does it with more flair than he does, because she's remained well-liked and played the game.
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:16
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Expect she's likely cracking a bit more now at the thought and feeling of facing the public. She's clearly overly nervous to see the response she get's. You've got to take into account that this is a woman who was ridiculed and humiliated the last time she was in the public eye on a reality show in this country in a voting competition.

She's ultimately come on here to try to change the perception some had of her and now she's likely worried of it not changing and instead getting a bad response from the public/viewers. Quite understandable but she had to have known that coming in. I think she's caught in a tough place in wanting to change peoples views of her and it's now having a real effect on her.
Someone on BBOTs just talking about Katie and the X Factor and saying Katie blamed Cheryl for everything and took Cheryl down so it may have been a factor. Whatever - why come on Celeb BB to change perceptions, there are no guarantees they will change for the better even if you've been a sweetheart before e.g. Nadia. Also to me Katie's main concern in the diary was getting the money. I think that's more the motive. Also what a fuss when you've nominated the person who has nominated you? Just don't get that
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:30
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Hi Bunions

Yes, in retrospect I imagine she thinks it was a foolish idea too, although the offer of big bucks probably tempts a lot of people to do thinks they normally wouldn't - perhaps she felt she was over it after 6 years and that the public might be too, but it's obviously played on her mind the whole time too.

I think that the house has been unstable too, what with all the tension from various sources - and having somebody like Heavy D telling her she wasn't worthy of being on the show and that he was more relevant than her - to which she replied very well I thought - can't help. Who knows if she's had other put-downs in there or not over the weeks.

She obviously has a self-esteem problem, she's not the first housemate to suffer with that kind of problem though, but she really shouldn't have let Aubrey wind her up like that (and it was Aubrey planting those seeds, she just didn't click to that because they share a bed and she thinks they are mates). Aubrey set Frankie and Katie up there in this particular scenario, in my opinion.
I hear you, it's just that in terms of reality shows, she's no virgin. She has the benefit of experience, unlike some and she knows how venomous some fans can be on social media - she's been there, done that.

She should also know a bit about how brutal BB is in terms of exposure of 'self' and she should certainly know she's an insecure individual.

Her going on the show was a monumentally bad idea all round IMO. If she cannot see Aubrey's naked ambition - she's thicker than she looks Real friendships on BB are rare - HMs are fickle.

Look how quickly she dropped Ricky like a cold bag of sick?
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:36
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BB got exactly what they'd hoped for when they let HMs know who's voted for them. They were disappointed when the tweets were read out because nobody reacted, this time they got a hit, and without Bear stirring the pot for them.
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:38
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I hear you, it's just that in terms of reality shows, she's no virgin. She has the benefit of experience, unlike some and she knows how venomous some fans can be on social media - she's been there, done that.

She should also know a bit about how brutal BB is in terms of exposure of 'self' and she should certainly know she's an insecure individual.

Her going on the show was a monumentally bad idea all round IMO. If she cannot see Aubrey's naked ambition - she's thicker than she looks Real friendships on BB are rare - HMs are fickle.

Look how quickly she dropped Ricky like a cold bag of sick?
Nice image, cheers

Yes I agree, although I can only assume 6 years dulls the memory a bit. I don't think any of us admit to our insecurities that much. I agree, she's really quite blinded re. Aubrey.
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Old 22-08-2016, 23:45
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Nice image, cheers

Yes I agree, although I can only assume 6 years dulls the memory a bit. I don't think any of us admit to our insecurities that much. I agree, she's really quite blinded re. Aubrey.
We all have our insecurities and I can't think of anything worse than having them exposed, poked and prodded on national tv for the nation's delectation

I don't care how much they pay - I just couldn't do it.

I couldn't even shit in the same toilet as a bunch of strangers ffs

Don't you find that level of desperation kinda grim?

I felt embarrassed for the bint more than anything.
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Old 23-08-2016, 00:06
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Biggins was spot on about her He summed her up in a few words without being nasty "Katie has issues" . No shit Sherlock . 🔎
Ricky was spot on too and I'm SO glad he saw through the act finally . She used him to prop her up in the first few weeks , then when she was nicely tucked in with her American buddies she shoved him aside and gave him the cold shoulder . Apparently she never said a word to him for 4 days ! How cruel is that ? No wonder he was looking depressed . Till he got the most votes then 🏃 💨💨WHOOSH ----she literally ran to be the first to hug him on camera and remind him (repeatedly)that she loved him . Pfft .

Her rant in the DR summed her up --"GIVE ME MY MONEY AND LET ME OUT OF HERE !"
Yup , I don't like Biggins, never did , but he had her number .She does indeed "have issues".
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Old 23-08-2016, 00:07
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When she was in the final two on the XF week after week she used to go backstage and wail and curse too.
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Old 23-08-2016, 00:37
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She lost it when the suggestion on weakness and instability was mentioned, not when they were talking about nominations specifically. Those two words are what triggered her subsequent 'losing it'.
This is unusual but I disagree with you mugs (maybe first time ever!). Other HMs have described her behaviour this week as weird, different, desperate, etc. She was always going to blow and had already vented in the diary room after Frankie's nomination....projecting the falseness accusation onto him, just like she did the 'gameplayer' accusation last night, to Bear no less...the most dangerous HM to bitch to, unless you wanted him on side. Interesting that Frankie and Ricky have separately called HER out for some obvious gameplay this week.

IMO, she didn't have enough reason to wig out until she felt insulted by that comment. But I'd bet money that ANY slight would have set her off. She was itching to go at Frankie.
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Old 23-08-2016, 01:13
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She thought that she was playing a brilliant game and then Frankie went and out-manoeuvred her.

That "OMG we are like the same person and that's why we nominated each other" conversation was one of the weirdest,falsest conversations ever.
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Old 23-08-2016, 01:15
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She thought that she was playing a brilliant game and then Frankie went and out-manoeuvred her.

That "OMG we are like the same person and that's why we nominated each other" conversation was one of the weirdest,falsest conversations ever.
Yeah, you're right. It was a lot of words and affectations before they got to their point. And even then there wasn't much conviction from either. Very awkward.
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Old 23-08-2016, 02:12
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The funny part was F & A thought:
a) they were doing her a favour being honest
b) she was going to be absolutely fine with it

When Katie reacted like she did they like, 'woah'

Poor Katie though, she's obviously struggling with the process. It's been very stressful in there what with one thing and another. It's probably all a bit much and she was caught out nommin Frankie.

Like Sam, sometimes you've just got to own it.
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Old 23-08-2016, 02:52
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Biggins was spot on about her He summed her up in a few words without being nasty "Katie has issues" . No shit Sherlock . 🔎
Ricky was spot on too and I'm SO glad he saw through the act finally . She used him to prop her up in the first few weeks , then when she was nicely tucked in with her American buddies she shoved him aside and gave him the cold shoulder . Apparently she never said a word to him for 4 days ! How cruel is that ? No wonder he was looking depressed . Till he got the most votes then 🏃 💨💨WHOOSH ----she literally ran to be the first to hug him on camera and remind him (repeatedly)that she loved him . Pfft .

Her rant in the DR summed her up --"GIVE ME MY MONEY AND LET ME OUT OF HERE !"
Yup , I don't like Biggins, never did , but he had her number .She does indeed "have issues".
Oh yes, more issues than Reader's Digest. I do hope she takes her sack of sheckles and f ecks off back to LA, to knit muesli or whatever the hell it is she does out there.
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Old 23-08-2016, 07:41
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Get the evil snake Frankie out. Katie has seen the serpernts true nature
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