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I think XFactor will stuggle more than ever this year
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MysteriousOz
23-08-2016
Strictly has a great line up this year!

I think XFactor will sink even more in the ratings than previous years
Vodka_Drinka
23-08-2016
It will struggle regardless of who is on Strictly. X Factor is dead. Why the cretinous Simon can't see that I don't know? Instead of endless revamps and returns it's time to just admit defeat.

Unfortunately this is what happens when you are a deluded barcissist surrounded by yes men and brown nosers who indulge your every whim.
Hitstastic
23-08-2016
The only way X Factor can turns round is by going back to basics and pretend it's 2006 or 2008 all over again.

Have some genuinely excellent singers in the live shows. The type of singer whose performance in one of the live shows is so incredible it becomes a viral hit almost by accident.

Get people talking about a few of the finalists, and hope the public don't vote them out early on leaving behind a sea of beige when it could've been a sea of epic!!!

Otherwise yes, X Factor is really gonna struggle this year.
mimik1uk
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“The only way X Factor can turns round is by going back to basics and pretend it's 2006 or 2008 all over again.

Have some genuinely excellent singers in the live shows. The type of singer whose performance in one of the live shows is so incredible it becomes a viral hit almost by accident.

Get people talking about a few of the finalists, and hope the public don't vote them out early on leaving behind a sea of beige when it could've been a sea of epic!!!

Otherwise yes, X Factor is really gonna struggle this year.”

exactly , its always had a split between reality TV and talent show and in recent years its gone too far towards the reality TV aspect, they need to rein in the reality TV side and focus on the talent more
big bang theory
23-08-2016
Well on the talent front if Simon wants to pull in more viewers he should actually put in a diverse set of singers and not just Diva Pop singers.
Jean4ever
23-08-2016
Agree with previous posters.

I think one thing that would help is to have a smart shaven Simon Cowell on the panel
instead of the TRAMP he has become!!!!!!: He may think he's 'cool' but - yuk!

Thiswillbefun
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“Strictly has a great line up this year!

I think XFactor will sink even more in the ratings than previous years”

I'm already having a great day. I don't need any more good news thanks..
Jake_Greenhall1
24-08-2016
I happen to disagree. Strictly and X Factor don't clash as often as you make out and most Strictly viewers watch X Factor as well. X Factor is going back to basics as you can tell. They've got the best judges, whilst some critical DS members will disagree, most people really wanted Sharon, Louis, Dermot to return. X Factor has a tough launch, being a sunny bank holiday weekend but i think it'll do just fine. Apparently, the first episode includes the 'best audition ever seen on any talent show globally' - and nope that wasn't promotion from judges. I missed last year's x factor as it was awful but I'm definitely tuning into this years. It looks like fun.
Jake_Greenhall1
24-08-2016
Why do people who 'dislike' the show read and comment on its forum? It's slightly weird...
Ryeboy123
24-08-2016
its has the best talent since 2011
JohnStannard
24-08-2016
I couldn't disagree more with the title of the thread and I think it will be picking up to be the best for a few years
InMyArms
24-08-2016
The show will struggle because it has been in decline for many years and last year finally killed the 'buzz' that once surrounded the show.
Soppyfan
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“It will struggle regardless of who is on Strictly. X Factor is dead. Why the cretinous Simon can't see that I don't know? Instead of endless revamps and returns it's time to just admit defeat.”

It's because he either has an ego the size of the moon or he has something on the ITV bosses that the TV company doesn't want to be revealed in the media.
StratusSphere
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“Why do people who 'dislike' the show read and comment on its forum? It's slightly weird...”

Fans are the people who care enough to criticise something when it changes.

X Factor used to be THE big thing before year after year it started shooting itself in the foot. Now its just humourous - for some of us older fans, at least - to watch as car crash TV.

I'm sure the producers know this too - why else would they hire people like loose cannon Scherzinger and reality tv mogul Sharon Osbourne?

Anyway. I'm unsure how it will do this year in ratings. Plus side, they have brought back a lot of the things that it had at its peak. Minus side, it is a more-than-ten-year old show now airing at a time when less than ever people watch TV, especially on a Saturday night, while trying to appeal to an atypical Saturday night TV audience. We shall see! Either way, it will still have its loyal fans.
big bang theory
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“I happen to disagree. Strictly and X Factor don't clash as often as you make out and most Strictly viewers watch X Factor as well. X Factor is going back to basics as you can tell. They've got the best judges, whilst some critical DS members will disagree, most people really wanted Sharon, Louis, Dermot to return. X Factor has a tough launch, being a sunny bank holiday weekend but i think it'll do just fine. Apparently, the first episode includes the 'best audition ever seen on any talent show globally' - and nope that wasn't promotion from judges. I missed last year's x factor as it was awful but I'm definitely tuning into this years. It looks like fun.”

Say if the BIB is true, who's to say that this act will be to Simon's personal tastes? As after all if he doesn't like an act then that act is screwed with dull song choices and dislike from large sections of the public that watch the show, so no matter how talented this act is they'll have to be to Simon's tastes and I highly doubt that Simon's taste in Music could produce "the best audition ever."
Tyyleer
24-08-2016
I don't think it will be as bad as last year (ratings wise) but I can't see it being anywhere near the smash it used to be. I think Strictly will still be the stronger one out of the two. But who knows, only time will tell.
davies88
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jean4ever:
“Agree with previous posters.

I think one thing that would help is to have a smart shaven Simon Cowell on the panel
instead of the TRAMP he has become!!!!!!: He may think he's 'cool' but - yuk!

”

He only became a tramp while sitting next to one...
MR_Pitkin
24-08-2016
How much more singing talent is there out there?

This show was finished 10 years ago, and I for one cannot wait for this along with all the other pseudo-reality dirge to finally be wiped from our screens.
MysteriousOz
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by StratusSphere:
“Fans are the people who care enough to criticise something when it changes.

X Factor used to be THE big thing before year after year it started shooting itself in the foot. Now its just humourous - for some of us older fans, at least - to watch as car crash TV.

I'm sure the producers know this too - why else would they hire people like loose cannon Scherzinger and reality tv mogul Sharon Osbourne?

Anyway. I'm unsure how it will do this year in ratings. Plus side, they have brought back a lot of the things that it had at its peak. Minus side, it is a more-than-ten-year old show now airing at a time when less than ever people watch TV, especially on a Saturday night, while trying to appeal to an atypical Saturday night TV audience. We shall see! Either way, it will still have its loyal fans.”

Agreed!
A.D.P
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“Strictly has a great line up this year!

I think XFactor will sink even more in the ratings than previous years”

I agree with you, - it's a shame, your and other peoples " opinions " are not allowed.

You state the truth, after last year, and with an " older" panel, it will struggle.

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Thanks for adding this worthy topic to the forum.
It's added to the discussion in a super-positive way. /s”

This is very harsh, the OP is posting what many are thinking, you may have a different option as your very loyal to this show, but it was down in the ratings last year, it's a music talent show aimed at a " young audience " and they have three over 60s on the panel, the younger viewers will find that very hard to relate to.

OP has made an honest post on thier opinions, all are allowed to debate that, positive or negative.
A.D.P
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by StratusSphere:
“Fans are the people who care enough to criticise something when it changes.

X Factor used to be THE big thing before year after year it started shooting itself in the foot. Now its just humourous - for some of us older fans, at least - to watch as car crash TV.

I'm sure the producers know this too - why else would they hire people like loose cannon Scherzinger and reality tv mogul Sharon Osbourne?

Anyway. I'm unsure how it will do this year in ratings. Plus side, they have brought back a lot of the things that it had at its peak. Minus side, it is a more-than-ten-year old show now airing at a time when less than ever people watch TV, especially on a Saturday night, while trying to appeal to an atypical Saturday night TV audience. We shall see! Either way, it will still have its loyal fans.”

A good and honest post.
Patti-Ann
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jean4ever:
“Agree with previous posters.

I think one thing that would help is to have a smart shaven Simon Cowell on the panel
instead of the TRAMP he has become!!!!!!: He may think he's 'cool' but - yuk!

”

I must say I'm not a fan of Simon's 'grunge' look either
cas1977
24-08-2016
I think when the ratings started sliding, they panicked and just started crowding the programme with new ideas, and started throwing more and more things at it in a effort to keep it afloat, which ironically was what made it worse......

I mean, last year, when they changed the format of judges houses to have that absolutely cringeworthy half an hour of hearing all the contestants literally beg for a place on the show in front of a live audience was just bloody ridiculous!

I think in TXF case, it's definitely less is more, and I think in general people just want to watch a light entertainment music show that doesn't take itself too seriously, isn't too taxing on the old brain, has some entertaining judges ( cue.....Nicole!) and a mix of good and bad singers,,,,,, ( the good ones inevitably will be the ones we'll root for and the bad ones, in order to spend time on the forums rubbishing....)

Hence why The Voice isn't as popular, as it is trying to be something it can never be....
Gavin_Martin
24-08-2016
i think the reason x factor has struggle is because viewers that have freeeview + freesat + and sky + set top boxes record or Pause live tv and viewers can watch x factor again on the ITV Hub and STV Player and another reason people stop watching x factor is people think
x factor is stage, thats why
Dave0893
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jake_Greenhall1:
“I happen to disagree. Strictly and X Factor don't clash as often as you make out and most Strictly viewers watch X Factor as well. X Factor is going back to basics as you can tell. They've got the best judges, whilst some critical DS members will disagree, most people really wanted Sharon, Louis, Dermot to return. X Factor has a tough launch, being a sunny bank holiday weekend but i think it'll do just fine. Apparently, the first episode includes the 'best audition ever seen on any talent show globally' - and nope that wasn't promotion from judges. I missed last year's x factor as it was awful but I'm definitely tuning into this years. It looks like fun.”

I love comments like this, have you asked each of the 7 million viewers?

BIB2: When have I heard that before? Oh I know, every blooming year.
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