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Bear IS odious but.......
confuddled
23-08-2016
He is the most astute in there !
He see's the games people play and pretty much can sum each and every other HM up, actually quite succinctly. Just saying !!
muggins14
23-08-2016
I hate to say it, but I think Aubrey tops him for being astute. I think she has it all sussed and I think that even Bear admires her game-playing abilities, at least he's suggested as much a few times.
keep_it_real1
23-08-2016
Aubrey is the biggest! game player in there, a complete phony to her real unpleasent personality ..anyone that has seen Aubrey at work will know what i mean from her past endeavors

Bear can see it and i do believe he admires her and how she is getting away with it so far lol
JVS
23-08-2016
Ricky and Sam are playing the best games, the GBP are suckers for nice quiet HMs who have done next to nothing. Even Ricky refusing 2 tasks hasn't harm his chances. Imagine if Aubrey had refused them what some would be saying.
Virgil Tracy
23-08-2016
Aubrey really is stone cold ruthless .

.
muggins14
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Ricky and Sam are playing the best games, the GBP are suckers for nice quiet HMs who have done next to nothing. Even Ricky refusing 2 tasks hasn't harm his chances.”

Not sure flying beneath the radar whilst being yourself is quite the same as being a game-player - I would like to have heard the conversation between Bear and Frankie (think it was on live feed, highlights or on a clip) where they started talking about what Bear meant by a game-player (Frankie asked him) and then they cut away.

I think the problem is that people have different definitions of what is and isn't a game-player - I would like to have seen if Frankie and Bear have the same definition. We always miss the good conversations
froja
23-08-2016
bear is not astute.
MattXfactor
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Ricky and Sam are playing the best games, the GBP are suckers for nice quiet HMs who have done next to nothing. Even Ricky refusing 2 tasks hasn't harm his chances. Imagine if Aubrey had refused them what some would be saying.”

Well I think Sam blew her gameplan when she started acting like she has a massive chip on her shoulders, I thought she was a contender to win before she started saying things like how the public see her as "our sam" and how she always carries a pen to sign autographs. I also think Ricky not attempting the tasks will have a very small impact on the amount of people who vote for him which in a tight race potentially with Stephen Bear could be crucial.
Alrightmate
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“Aubrey really is stone cold ruthless .

.”

She is. I agree.
And she just so happens to be my favourite housemate.
fredster
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by froja:
“bear is not astute.”

I would agree with you.
muggins14
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by froja:
“bear is not astute.”

I agree, but I do think - as much as I don't like him - he's quite observant, he sometimes seems to notice things. Trouble is that he then rubs it in, overplays that card and ruins any advantage it could give him.
ShowbizLover
23-08-2016
I think Aubrey by far is the most astute and intelligent in the house.

She sure know's everyone's game and read's them all so ruthlessly but in the nicest way possible.

I don't care if she spat in Bear's sandwich, I want her to WIN.

Purposely think BB haven't shown much of her if I am being entirely honest.
dirtyrat
23-08-2016
They are all game playing

Frankie is the biggest . Audrey has a similar game to Ricky and Katie
muggins14
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“They are all game playing

Frankie is the biggest . Audrey has a similar game to Ricky and Katie”

Noo, Ricky and Katie would never do what Aubrey did last night - she lit the torch and watched it burst into a flame, sat back and watched. As somebody earlier said, she had Frankie apologising for something he didn't even say
dirtyrat
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Noo, Ricky and Katie would never do what Aubrey did last night - she lit the torch and watched it burst into a flame, sat back and watched. As somebody earlier said, she had Frankie apologising for something he didn't even say ”

He did say it though . Then lied then made nasty faces about her then went in and pretended to consol her
muggins14
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by dirtyrat:
“He did say it though . Then lied then made nasty faces about her then went in and pretended to consol her”

He didn't say that when she was asking him what his reasons for nominating her were. The word weak came up - not from Frankie (I think it was Aubrey), she said you think I'm weak, he said no I didn't say that I don't think you're weak. As was shown on the clip just now in Katie's interview, Aubrey said "there has been conversation about your (in)stability" (can't remember if she said stability or instability) and then Katie went "wow" and stormed off. After that Aubrey and Frankie talked about it and agreed they thought she was unstable.

They may well have mentioned it in previous conversations that we haven't seen, or even that we have, but at that moment when Katie was questioning him, he didn't say it.
Pinglet78
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I agree, but I do think - as much as I don't like him - he's quite observant, he sometimes seems to notice things. Trouble is that he then rubs it in, overplays that card and ruins any advantage it could give him.”

He knows how to to figure people's weaknesses out & exploit them for his own gain...
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