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Here's a clip of the Bear/Aubrey Live Feed thing (VIDEO)
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EnricoIV
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“Tbh from what I saw on Live Feed the Americans (particularly Renee and Aubrey) really showed themselves up . Renee was being childish and vandalising Bear's personal property and clothes . It was also revealed that she hid his mask the mask they were arguing about at the end of last nights eviction show . Aubrey called Marnie a **** and started slagging her off when she came out the diary room from her argument with Bear .”

Oops dear, your xenophobia is hanging out. You might want to tuck that back in.

"The Americans" are not one entity. And as such, did nothing.

I'm all for the vandalizing. I'd have done it long, long ago. But in this case ... it was a reaction to Bear's having vandalized Aubrey and the outfit she was wearing when he threw the pie at her. (Did you notice how I ascribed the behavior to Bear, as an individual, and didn't say "The Brits" threw pies at her and vandalized Aubrey's belongings?)
SAFC_Derry
24-08-2016
Please! Anyone trying to say Bear just didn't get schooled there is a bit like him, delusional. For someone who normally has a lot to say (usually childish ramblings) he sounded like the incoherent bafoon we knew he was.
marbri
24-08-2016
Would also be interesting to see what happened just BEFORE this video because on the HL show we see Frankie and Ricky in the garden ready to chill and then they hear shouting. My guess is Bear had his usual poke or two at her or someone else and Aubry, still pissed off from his behaviour earlier that day with the pie, wasn´t in the mood to play and let him know what she really thought of him.

It will probably continue to be edited to favour Bear but he did that thing with the pie on eviction day AFTER she had done her hair and makeup. Sure it's not a big thing in the grand scheme of life but it was a dick move. He would never have done that to Marnie or Chloe, he knew he was being an ass and he just didn't care.
lon_chaney
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Lots of people asking to see it as they missed it...

https://twitter.com/AubreyODaysArmy/...32500237918208

Bear is so annoying, but Bear was in fact trying to get out of the bedroom, but Aubrey didn't let him. Aubrey came across as quite aggressive and Bear came across as wind up again.

One thing again, the "arm raise", Bear does it, and then Renee looking at Aubrey says "hands up, hands up, hands up" to which Aubrey does so (not seriously it seems). I wish Emma could ask what this arm thing is when they leave!

Also interesting on live feed i swear Bear was being called by BB once DURING the action, but all 3 times Aubrey is the one called during, and then Bear after when Aubrey refused.”

The arms up thing is standard non combatant posture - like in boxing.
al_capo
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Bo:
“I think R and A thought they'd reached an understanding with B after all the crap. He unfortunately, threw that back in their faces. He's taken them to breaking point, trouble he can't handle them on that level.”

He did handle them though, if he shouted back and insulted them then he would be called a bully. Aubrey and Renee have both showed aggression towards Bear, Bear will just sit back and love the fact that someone else has cracked. Aubrey said it herself when she come out the DR, "I allowed him to get in my head and I shouldn't have". I think Bear is much smarter than people give him credit for. He is good at drawing people in, like with his beach party getting the whole house onside and then he will annoy them to mess with their heads.
dialectic
24-08-2016
Thanks Salv* but the video link in the tweet won't play for me. Anyone else have this problem?
lon_chaney
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Bo:
“Exactly, he's got nothing beyond being a childish wind up, deliberately annoying and upsetting others. When he comes up against someone who is articulate and won't be bullied he's nothing.”

To be fair Bear dosnt need anything beyond "a childish wind up" as it works and creates the required drama and entertainment.
It even seems to have cracked Aubrey , and fair play to Aubrey for giving Bear as good as he gets.
Bear and Aubrey and good watchable characters.
Lee_Bo
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“He did handle them though, if he shouted back and insulted them then he would be called a bully. Aubrey and Renee have both showed aggression towards Bear, Bear will just sit back and love the fact that someone else has cracked. Aubrey said it herself when she come out the DR, "I allowed him to get in my head and I shouldn't have". I think Bear is much smarter than people give him credit for. He is good at drawing people in, like with his beach party getting the whole house onside and then he will annoy them to mess with their heads.”

Bear is an 'indirect bully', poke, prod and leave. Poke prod and leave. Sabotage and provoke, poke, prod and feign innocence.

It's a very cowardly way to exert power. I have much more respect for people like Aubrey and even Colin in that regard who are much more straight forward, 'here I am, this is what I think, what have you got?'
JamesLaFleur
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“He did handle them though, if he shouted back and insulted them then he would be called a bully. Aubrey and Renee have both showed aggression towards Bear, Bear will just sit back and love the fact that someone else has cracked. Aubrey said it herself when she come out the DR, "I allowed him to get in my head and I shouldn't have". I think Bear is much smarter than people give him credit for. He is good at drawing people in, like with his beach party getting the whole house onside and then he will annoy them to mess with their heads.”

It's really not smart. It's lowest common denominator, school playground tactics.
4troy7
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Bo:
“I don't think any of those things are worse than Stephen's 'rap sheet'

He willfully and joyfully poured away their food and beloved coffee just because he knew it would upset them. Renee should have destroyed the mask in front of his face and taken a formal warning for it.”

You don't think vandalising people's clothes and shoes is wrong ? Bear has been silly with wasting food but he's never destroyed or vadlished anyone's personal belongings !
Lee_Bo
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Thanks Salv* but the video link in the tweet won't play for me. Anyone else have this problem?”

Try vivaldi browser, default setup. It's either ad block or a cookies problem with your current browser. I have a completely different browser in default mode (with no ad block) for the rare occasions I want to view stuff on twitter etc.
Lee_Bo
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“You don't think vandalising people's clothes and shoes is wrong ? Bear has been silly with wasting food but he's never destroyed or vadlished anyone's personal belongings !”

That we've seen. There's reports that people are fed up with him taking and using what he wants from their personal possessions.

Who knows what else is going on that they don't broadcast.
4troy7
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“Oops dear, your xenophobia is hanging out. You might want to tuck that back in.

"The Americans" are not one entity. And as such, did nothing.

I'm all for the vandalizing. I'd have done it long, long ago. But in this case ... it was a reaction to Bear's having vandalized Aubrey and the outfit she was wearing when he threw the pie at her. (Did you notice how I ascribed the behavior to Bear, as an individual, and didn't say "The Brits" threw pies at her and vandalized Aubrey's belongings?)”

Lol it was a bit of pie in her face hardly the end of the world ...
Venetian
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“You don't think vandalising people's clothes and shoes is wrong ? Bear has been silly with wasting food but he's never destroyed or vadlished anyone's personal belongings !”

Possibly not classified as "personal belongings" but he destroyed the yearbook, which all the other HMs were enjoying.
rhizo_mania
24-08-2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by BabelBrook
On LF Rennee said Bear has been told to put his arms up if he feels threatened ....!!



Originally Posted by Venetian:
“Isn't that a more or less common thing to do in any walk of life?”


No! only if your in a western movie, and the towns sheriff pulls his gun on you.
4troy7
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Bo:
“That we've seen. There's reports that people are fed up with him taking and using what he wants from their personal possessions.

Who knows what else is going on that they don't broadcast.”

Your just ASSUMING now. You have no solid proof that he's done anything to anyone's belongings .
SAFC_Derry
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“He did handle them though, if he shouted back and insulted them then he would be called a bully. Aubrey and Renee have both showed aggression towards Bear, Bear will just sit back and love the fact that someone else has cracked. Aubrey said it herself when she come out the DR, "I allowed him to get in my head and I shouldn't have". I think Bear is much smarter than people give him credit for. He is good at drawing people in, like with his beach party getting the whole house onside and then he will annoy them to mess with their heads.”

keep trying to defend the indefensible! But in all honesty trying to indicate that baby bear has some sort of intellectual master plan is laughable. Especially when he has shown nothing other than repetitive child like behaviour with a sinister underbelly that enjoys watching people in states of distress whilst cowering away.
4troy7
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Venetian:
“Possibly not classified as "personal belongings" but he destroyed the yearbook, which all the other HMs were enjoying.”

That's hardly personal belongings like people's clothes or shoes though .
EnricoIV
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“He did handle them though, if he shouted back and insulted them then he would be called a bully. Aubrey and Renee have both showed aggression towards Bear, Bear will just sit back and love the fact that someone else has cracked. Aubrey said it herself when she come out the DR, "I allowed him to get in my head and I shouldn't have". I think Bear is much smarter than people give him credit for. He is good at drawing people in, like with his beach party getting the whole house onside and then he will annoy them to mess with their heads.”

Nonsense. Of course he was shouting back. He didn't even have on a microphone, and he could be heard pretty clearly.

Throwing a pie at Aubrey (just the latest thing he's done) wasn't aggressive?

And oh please. They may have participated in his beach party, but it by no means brought them "on side." Just because the moron can act (and it is an act) like a half-way decent human being for an hour or two doesn't make anyone (but the Bear Lovers) forget everything else hes done.
Lee_Bo
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“Your just ASSUMING now. You have no solid proof that he's done anything to anyone's belongings .”

What choice do we have but to assume? The producers are sculpting and shaping events as they see fit.

We also can't prove he hasn't.
dialectic
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Bo:
“Try vivaldi browser, default setup. It's either ad block or a cookies problem with your current browser. I have a completely different browser in default mode (with no ad block) for the rare occasions I want to view stuff on twitter etc.”

Thanks I'll check it out
JamesLaFleur
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“That's hardly personal belongings like people's clothes or shoes though .”

What about Big Brother's personal belongings? The garden trees, the window, throwing food over everything in sight etc.
Lee_Bo
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by EnricoIV:
“Nonsense. Of course he was shouting back. He didn't even have on a microphone, and he could be heard pretty clearly.

Throwing a pie at Aubrey (just the latest thing he's done) wasn't aggressive?

And oh please. They may have participated in his beach party, but it by no means brought them "on side." Just because the moron can act (and it is an act) like a half-way decent human being for an hour or two doesn't make anyone (but the Bear Lovers) forget everything else hes done.”

The 'Club' thing was a clever move by either Stephen or the producers to put him at the center of the action for a couple of episodes. I don't think any of them are falling for it anymore, they are just grateful when he's not behaving like a 6 year old so they can have a bit of peace and quiet.
Venetian
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“Quote:
Originally Posted by BabelBrook
On LF Rennee said Bear has been told to put his arms up if he feels threatened ....!!






No! only if your in a western movie, and the towns sheriff pulls his gun on you.”

OK that funny. But there are other examples of raising your arms when feeling threatened, what about in a boxing ring for example? I think it's a pretty standard gesture we make if anyone gets too close to us in our personal space.
al_capo
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by SAFC_Derry:
“ keep trying to defend the indefensible! But in all honesty trying to indicate that baby bear has some sort of intellectual master plan is laughable. Especially when he has shown nothing other than repetitive child like behaviour with a sinister underbelly that enjoys watching people in states of distress whilst cowering away.”

Yesterdays episode was an example of Bear just purely having fun, was it not? Also, I didn't say he had a master plan. All I said was that I don't think he is thick. He knows what he is doing and his tactic has worked as he is in the final and he has survived 5 eviction or 7 if you count the doubles. I am also not defending anything, Im giving my take on the argument, am I not allowed to do that? I like Bear, you don't, simple as.
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