The last two years since Gary busey older celebs have struggled to make an impression as regards winning

Are they just bad choices that bb have given us or is the reality vote too strong to compete with .

Biggins I don't think would have won either and would probably departed about last night.

Even the jungle the traditional winning home of the older celeb has the likes of Vicky Pattison winning easily now

I think Biggins would have won tbh..

Busey won. Jason won and he was about 60


Ricky might win and acts about 90

Bear is favourite and he has plagiarised the mannersims of old man Steptoe

Jason was in his 40s.

Someone with a personality and a sense of humour.

I thought that was the year he was born

He wasn't in celeb bb though

Jim Davidson won in 2014. He's old.

I know but over the last two years since with busey older ones have struggled to get near winning

I see what you mean but I think two years is too short time to write them all off to win in future, hopefully.

Jim seems older because his act is ancient and his views are fossillised

Course it is! Makes no sense, would mean that during CBB15 people could have been decrying the fact no young people had won for two years!

What's the cut off point for going from a young hm to old hm? I dont think we've had a final that didn't have at least one 'oldie' in it, if we're going by the criteria I suspect we are (which includes middleage?)