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Old 24-08-2016, 20:34
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As the title says.

There are many of you on here or on Digital Spy who post threads about end this storyline, get rid of this character or keep this couple together etc.

I ask a genuine question here: Why watch the soaps if you can be positive about it?

I like Emmerdale (the best soap at the moment in my opinion), and the only negative I have is that Sam Dingle is still around. He's the only one I don't like. I prefer the villainous characters like Charity, Ross and Robert. Plus, long live Cain & Charity.

Can you give at least one positive thing about the soap(s) you watch?
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Old 24-08-2016, 20:37
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Because forums is about our opinions and caring enough about shows that we feel are being badly managed.

I don't like or care about EE or CS so I don't post about them.

Positives?

The outdoor set
John Bowe
Finn, his cuteness and his jumpers, and his relationship with Ross and Pete
Moira/Natalie Robb
Alfie the dog
Moses, the cutest baby in the world
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Old 24-08-2016, 20:37
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cos there are some who watch just to complain on here

I don't get it either but then I do try to have balance, I will slate stuff but I will be positive too.

Iv stopped watching EE so that I don't get over negative about it
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Old 24-08-2016, 20:48
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You could also argue that some people will never say a bad word about a show.

I think there's also a big difference between genuine critique and being negative for the sake of it.

One positive about Emmerdale is the strong cast they have.
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Old 24-08-2016, 20:49
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I have the benefit/curse of always being right, unfortunately most soap episodes don't meet my standards.
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Old 24-08-2016, 20:57
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As the title says.

There are many of you on here or on Digital Spy who post threads about end this storyline, get rid of this character or keep this couple together etc.

I ask a genuine question here: Why watch the soaps if you can be positive about it?

I like Emmerdale (the best soap at the moment in my opinion), and the only negative I have is that Sam Dingle is still around. He's the only one I don't like. I prefer the villainous characters like Charity, Ross and Robert. Plus, long live Cain & Charity.

Can you give at least one positive thing about the soap(s) you watch?
We have High standards in this forum
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:03
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I have the benefit/curse of always being right, unfortunately most soap episodes don't meet my standards.
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:18
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I remember reading something - I'm not sure how accurate it was - that there was a certain, controversial radio host (or something along those lines) and people who disliked him actually spent more time listening to him than those who liked him. I know it sounds vague, I wish I could recall where I read it, but I think there might be some truth to it.

Particularly on here, I've noticed that some of the most vocal critics of any soap are the ones who watch it continually - usually the ones that also arrogantly think they'd be able to 'fix' the soap in question - and often, with the worst possible suggestions ever. Perhaps people just like having something to complain about. It's ridiculous, because the best thing they could do if they wanted the soap to buck its ideas up would be to stop watching - it's really that simple!

And if you do like to invest so much energy into complaining, then Christ Almighty, there's some much more useful things to angrily complain about than a soap opera!
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:22
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I remember reading something - I'm not sure how accurate it was - that there was a certain, controversial radio host (or something along those lines) and people who disliked him actually spent more time listening to him than those who liked him. I know it sounds vague, I wish I could recall where I read it, but I think there might be some truth to it.

Particularly on here, I've noticed that some of the most vocal critics of any soap are the ones who watch it continually - usually the ones that also arrogantly think they'd be able to 'fix' the soap in question - and often, with the worst possible suggestions ever. Perhaps people just like having something to complain about. It's ridiculous, because the best thing they could do if they wanted the soap to buck its ideas up would be to stop watching - it's really that simple!

And if you do like to invest so much energy into complaining, then Christ Almighty, there's some much more useful things to angrily complain about than a soap opera!
Well I often find that healthy debates on both sides is better than telling people not to complain..

This is a soaps forum so why on earth wouldn't people discuss positives and negatives.

If people want to discuss other issues they feel are more important there is a general discussion forum.

We all know there's other things happening in the world.

I see your point about too much negativity though.
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:32
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Well I often find that healthy debates on both sides is better than telling people not to complain..

This is a soaps forum so why on earth wouldn't people discuss positives and negatives.

If people want to discuss other issues they feel are more important there is a general discussion forum.

We all know there's other things happening in the world.

I see your point about too much negativity though.
But I'm not referring to people who have negative opinions on certain aspects. These are the people who will post as if it's the biggest, most arduous chore to watch a certain program, but continue to do so anyway. It's all exaggerated hyperbole and ridiculous clichés. They watch thirty minutes of a program, and spend another hour being outraged by it - squeezing that outrage into every possible discussion possible.

It's the reason why I stopped posting in Soaps here. It became utterly tiresome to hear the same posters spout the same reverberated dribble over and over again.
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:35
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Ripping the piss out of the characters and storylines is half the fun.
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:36
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But I'm not referring to people who have negative opinions on certain aspects. These are the people who will post as if it's the biggest, most arduous chore to watch a certain program, but continue to do so anyway. It's all exaggerated hyperbole and ridiculous clichés. They watch thirty minutes of a program, and spend another hour being outraged by it - squeezing that outrage into every possible discussion possible.

It's the reason why I stopped posting in Soaps here. It became utterly tiresome to hear the same posters spout the same reverberated dribble over and over again.
There are no clichés
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:36
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Ripping the piss out of the characters and storylines is half the fun.
Agreed
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:41
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But I'm not referring to people who have negative opinions on certain aspects. These are the people who will post as if it's the biggest, most arduous chore to watch a certain program, but continue to do so anyway. It's all exaggerated hyperbole and ridiculous clichés. They watch thirty minutes of a program, and spend another hour being outraged by it - squeezing that outrage into every possible discussion possible.

It's the reason why I stopped posting in Soaps here. It became utterly tiresome to hear the same posters spout the same reverberated dribble over and over again.
I totally get what you're saying.
There's critique and then there's just constant negativity.

For example an actor in a first appearance and within 5 minutes it's he's /she's awful

I'm guilty of it myself although I'm trying not to be
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:42
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If you've watched something over 10 years it's hard to let go if it, especially if it's on 5 times a week. When Neighbours is bad, I still watch it. I can easily give up EastEnders when it gets bad, like the Michael Moon years.
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:46
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I want to see Emmerdale succeed, hence my frustration and moaning. Recently though, I've not really posted here and the reason as to why is because I'm losing interest.

I can only care for so long and wish and hope that the show moves into a "better" direction. All the affairs are cheap, tacky short term plots that benefit no one. The milestone stunts are unbelievably forced... plots for votes at award shows and to keep social media happy...

I'm quiet on here now because my passion for the show is dying. I don't care for it now, I don't care for the characters, even my favourite character of possibly all time - Charity Dingle - can't keep me around much longer...

And I believe my reaction is quite normal. When people are complaining and shouting loud about the show, in some ways the show's doing something right because people clearly care, but once those voices quiet down... that's when shows should start worrying.
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Old 24-08-2016, 21:56
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cos there are some who watch just to complain on here

I don't get it either but then I do try to have balance, I will slate stuff but I will be positive too.

Iv stopped watching EE so that I don't get over negative about it
I'd be surprised if anyone just watched a soap so they could comment on a forum
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Old 24-08-2016, 22:08
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If you've watched something over 10 years it's hard to let go if it, especially if it's on 5 times a week. When Neighbours is bad, I still watch it. I can easily give up EastEnders when it gets bad, like the Michael Moon years.
I gave up Corrie after 35 years and EE after 20 years - both were very easy to let go of. It all depends on how deeply invested you are in soaps. To me they're just a bit of entertainment after a hard day at work, a chance to relax. If I don't like something I just watch/do something else instead. Plus I discovered a few years ago that life is far too short to spend it doing things I don't really enjoy as I never know what's around the corner.
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Old 24-08-2016, 22:09
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I'd be surprised if anyone just watched a soap so they could comment on a forum
All About Me does on the EE threads
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Old 24-08-2016, 22:20
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Because there is F all else on??
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Old 24-08-2016, 22:27
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Because there is F all else on??
When I was a youngster there were only 3 channels so there really was a limit to what there was to watch, there were no DVDs, Blu-rays, videos, nothing. It's different now, there are loads and loads of channels to watch, Blu-rays, DVDs. Or read a book or whatever.
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Old 24-08-2016, 22:46
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I'd be surprised if anyone just watched a soap so they could comment on a forum
A few corrie watchers said as much in a recent thread

edit sure it was corrie ones if not it was ED watchers
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Old 25-08-2016, 01:25
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If I got to a point with a soap where I only liked a few characters and wanted half the cast axed, I wouldn't waste my time watching every ep in full. I'd just watch clips on YouTube of those I do like.

I switched off Corrie under Blackburn as it got to a point where I disliked way more than I liked about it. To be fair I wasn't a full-time viewer before him due to a decline in quality under previous EPs, but I dipped in more than I do now. He took it to new lows.

I see one ep a month now if that. Although this may increase if Kate Oates improves the show though by how much depends on whether that improvement is genuine or a superficial Collinson type of improvement. Unless ITV cut back, I can't see me watching every ep again, even in the unlikely event the show gets back to 2004 levels of quality, as I already watch EE/ED full-time.
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Old 25-08-2016, 09:04
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Criticism is welcomed in moderate and relative amounts, however going overboard with it does make you wonder why some even bother to continue watching. There are positives and negatives in every soap, if I feel that there is a overriding proportion of negatives then it's time to drop it off. Hence bye bye Hollyoaks
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Old 25-08-2016, 09:11
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Depends in what way you are negative

I am not shy in detailing what I don't like. But i feel when it comes to moaning about everything, that's when it can get a bit too much.

I tend to analyse things a bit too much and I think largely comes from the studies I have done in terms of television, movies and theatre.
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