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Aubrey just lost it
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dome
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa_B:
“Loved her rant!! Not laughing with her though. Completely laughing at how deluded she is.

I wonder why such an A-lister has had to slum with the likes of BB?”

Interesting isn't it, when she has such a high opinion of herself.
Aura101
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“Means nothing to me, she means nothing in the UK Bear is more famous than her here.”

Lol OK.
Is this where we are at now, reality nobodies are worth more than those with genuine talent ?
WalterHartright
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“But she has every right to be boastful about her achievements - it's no different to him boasting and gloating about how he's always getting the public vote.”

She does but it doesn't mean that it's wise. This does risk being interpreted by the public as a proclamation that she's above people like Bear as in not very famous people, rather than people like Bear as in obnoxious immature people.
Tiggles
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“The snobbery just stunk up the place.”

LOL I bet in the real world even in the UK there are tons of celebs that would also say the same thing. I live Aubrey she read him out and he knew she is right. Lol
xuryxx
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by WalterHartright:
“I'd bet that, pre-CBB UK, Aubrey O'Day and Renee Graziano could have walked laps from Marble Arch to Oxford Circus and gone the whole day, on the right day, without being recognised once. They really aren't famous enough to feel separated from ordinary people.

I mean obviously they're still clearly more famous than Bear on aggregate, I'm not arguing that. But still....”

Why would they worry about being recognised in a country that has a population of 64 million when they get plenty recognition in their own country which has a population of over 300 million people?
Alrightmate
24-08-2016
She didn't lose it, she was in perfect control and was eloquent and articulate.

I don't think it's snobbery to say to Bear that BB will probably be his greatest achievement in life.
His claim to fame probably will be this.

It was evident that her words hurt Bear, because there was an element of truth to what she said and that's what wounded him.
It was 'ruthless' but Bear never had much of a problem with consideration for the feelings of others.

He found out that sometimes when you treat others with a lack of consideration about how they might feel then he's going to come across the wrong person one day, and they'll say something back which hurts.
Miss Con Strue
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Whatever she did in America it's irrelevant here in Britain, she could have performed at their whitehouse, and it would still be the same. American's think their achievements in America mean something outside of America's borders when they don't matter a fig to the rest of the world.”

That argument does not have any weight. Whatever is achieved by someone is worthy in its own right. It doesn't matter where it happened. The Beatles/Rolling Stones/Coldplay/ initially had massive success in the UK. Of course those achievements meant something in other parts of the world. Do you think that if an American discovers the cure for cancer, in America, the rest of the world won't give a fig?
yogacats
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“She didn't lose it, she was in perfect control and was eloquent and articulate.

I don't think it's snobbery to say to Bear that BB will probably be his greatest achievement in life.
His claim to fame probably will be this.

It was evident that her words hurt Bear, because there was an element of truth to what she said and that's what wounded him.
It was 'ruthless' but Bear never had much of a problem with consideration for the feelings of others.

He found out that sometimes when you treat others with a lack of consideration about how they might feel then he's going to come across the wrong person one day, and they'll say something back which hurts.”


Absolutely spot on. Really scratching my head that folks are STILL defending him.
AnotherPOV
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Aura101:
“Difficult for me to agree with that as I have 2 of her albums. Great albums they are as well.
I was shocked when I found out she was going on CBB but her group did split up abruptly after a fight broke out in the recording studio. So I'm guessing she perhaps needs the cash.”

I have all the Beatles albums, same with the Kinks and the Clash.
Tyyleer
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“Means nothing to me, she means nothing in the UK Bear is more famous than her here.”

It should mean something to you. She has genuine talent and a career.
Janette800
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“She's nothing tho, the only thing she is is a disgusting, arrogant snob.”

And Bear is such a delight
Alrightmate
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by WalterHartright:
“She does but it doesn't mean that it's wise. This does risk being interpreted by the public as a proclamation that she's above people like Bear as in not very famous people, rather than people like Bear as in obnoxious immature people.”

It does risk being misinterpreted. But she did say that winning the show isn't as important to her as it is with Bear, and what she said was in response to Bear asking if it was about her having more money than him and saying that he came from nothing to become something. She framed it to him that it was about achievements in life, not money. Actually doing things, not just being famous for being an asshole.
In other words she was making him eat his own words.
Alrightmate
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Tyyleer:
“It should mean something to you. She has genuine talent and a career.”

And I'm sure that when she spoke about doing things in life she wasn't just talking about her career. She does a lot of work for other people.
Warp
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by teresagreen:
“Is he? I'd never heard of him, same as millions of others. The only thing he is famous for is being an annoying W*****.”

He is known by the younger generation, I doubt any generation knows about Aubrey.
AnotherPOV
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“That argument does not have any weight. Whatever is achieved by someone is worthy in its own right. It doesn't matter where it happened. The Beatles/Rolling Stones/Coldplay/ initially had massive success in the UK. Of course those achievements meant something in other parts of the world. Do you think that if an American discovers the cure for cancer, in America, the rest of the world won't give a fig?”

Audrey thinks she's above Bear, yet such a supposed high flyer in America has had to come to Britain to appear in CBB, a sever clipping of wings I suspect. As for curing cancer in America, when the world outside of America do something...like cure cancer the America's try ti hi-jack it for their own good, the American's look after No 1, and it isn't the world outside of America.
Aura101
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“He is known by the younger generation, I doubt any generation knows about Aubrey.”

Are you feeling OK ?
Miss Con Strue
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by dome:
“Interesting isn't it, when she has such a high opinion of herself.”

When she is comparing herself to Bear, she is right to have a high opinion of herself. She has had a platinum album and sold out Madison. Aubrey would never have compared herself in the same way to Ricky, whose achievement she recognises and respects. But in the case of Bear he is a jumped up, mouthy, idiot, so her comparison is spot on.
SpiritedAway
24-08-2016
Bear started that argument. Aubrey finished it and finished him. She has never been one to wilt under Bear's antics and this was no different. Bear asked for it, then turned tail and ran because he couldn't hand the truth.

Bear just exposed himself as a hypocritical, shit stirring little cretin whose a bit dim and lacking in durability.
xuryxx
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Audrey thinks she's above Bear, yet such a supposed high flyer in America has had to come to Britain to appear in CBB, a sever clipping of wings I suspect.”

She's right though, she is.
WalterHartright
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by xuryxx:
“Why would they worry about being recognised in a country that has a population of 64 million when they get plenty recognition in their own country which has a population of over 300 million people?”

I think they clearly do see profile in the UK as a valuable asset if their agents pitched for them to be on CBB UK. A-listers are nearly always known on both sides of the Atlantic. The UK isn't just any other country to an American celeb in the same way that say, South Korea is. It's the second biggest English language market in the world, one of the biggest consumers of American popular culture and a place which many Americans have been able to use as a springboard to launch/radically boost their career allowing them to then make it big at home (Jimi Hendrix, The Killers etc.) So I take your point in terms of putting it in perspective, but fame in Britain can't be downplayed too much as a measure of overall fame.
Warp
24-08-2016
Those defending Aubrey don't get it, she has no modesty, she's a typical arrogant American who thinks she's above every one, Bear maybe an arrogant, annoying idiot at times, but at least he's modest about what he is and where he's come from, Aubrey though is living in cloud cooky land where she's the centre of a attention despite being on a lowly British reality show with the least famous cast ever and she doesn't even stand out. I thought she was an x factor reject like Katie.
Miss Con Strue
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Audrey thinks she's above Bear, yet such a supposed high flyer in America has had to come to Britain to appear in CBB, a sever clipping of wings I suspect.”

I don't think Aubrey had to come. She chose to come and I am sure she was paid handsomely for doing so. The likes of Bear, Lewis and Chloe probably had to because it is the only way they can earn any money. As we know Bear was paid much less than others, because he is a nobody, who had to take a smaller fee to be able to be in BB.
LoobyLouThe1st
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by WalterHartright:
“I'd bet that, pre-CBB UK, Aubrey O'Day and Renee Graziano could have walked laps from Marble Arch to Oxford Circus and gone the whole day, on the right day, without being recognised once. They really aren't famous enough to feel separated from ordinary people.

I mean obviously they're still clearly more famous than Bear on aggregate, I'm not arguing that. But still....”

Absolutely agree
muggins14
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cletus Van Damn:
“She hit the nail on the head. Bear has had this coming a long time with his constant goading and general arseholeness. Aubrey ripped him to shreds and it hurt him, he deserved it.”

He brought it on himself there - they were quietly making their beds, not talking, then he started goading her. He should know by now she's not one of those housemates who will sit back and take it. She let it rip with both barrels.

He should have left it at the 'sorry' card instead of starting again. I always thought, because live feed started just into that argument, that she'd started it, but he was the one one who couldn't just make his bed without making a remark.
lynzee
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by confuddled:
“But she sang a Madison square gardens don't you know?!?! Can't say I've ever heard of her or the band she was in but like you allude to, she can't be doing too well now given she's on BB UK.”

There are probably many American musicians and actors that you have not heard of. That doesn't make them less famous as millions of other people have heard of them. She is probably on BB UK because she was asked to be and is getting a big pay cheque for it. I would bet it is far more than Bear could ever hope to earn for a few weeks of appearing on a TV show. That doesn't mean that she is not doing too well,
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