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Aubrey just lost it
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Jim_Bob5
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Aura101:
“She does have a huge point no matter what anyone thinks though... She was in a group and she has performed Madison square garden.... And Bear has.... Erm”

lol so what? being at MSG really doesn't mean jack.
AnotherPOV
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by xuryxx:
“She's right though, she is.”

No, if she was such a successful achiever, why did she agree to do a low end show like CBB? She's on the same level as Bear in there, both are hm's, except Bear will probably win and Audrey maybe first out on Friday. She can then sod off back to America and her star spangled fame.
WalterHartright
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“It does risk being misinterpreted. But she did say that winning the show isn't as important to her as it is with Bear, and what she said was in response to Bear asking if it was about her having more money than him and saying that he came from nothing to become something. She framed it to him that it was about achievements in life, not money. Actually doing things, not just being famous for being an asshole.
In other words she was making him eat his own words.”

It definitely did seem better as the conversation progressed, I think she became quickly aware of the risk of looking like a snob and that being a gift to Bear, I just wonder if she did enough to save it or if most people remember the 'headline' they saw before the ad break. I didn't see her as a likely winner anyway mind.
CLL Dodge
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“He brought it on himself there - they were quietly making their beds, not talking, then he started goading her. He should know by now she's not one of those housemates who will sit back and take it. She let it rip with both barrels.

He should have left it at the 'sorry' card instead of starting again. I always thought, because live feed started just into that argument, that she'd started it, but he was the one one who couldn't just make his bed without making a remark.”

He got her to show herself up good and proper. Ace move by Bear.
Alrightmate
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jim_Bob5:
“lol so what? being at MSG really doesn't mean jack.”

So it means something when you tell that to somebody who's just boasted to you that they came from nothing and have achieved something by virtue of being King of the Arseholes on Big Brother.
Hamish Mancini
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“Aubrey didn't just lose it - she just found it. Brilliant!

She is right that in the real world, after his 15 minutes, Bear will be a non-entity. Aubrey, Frankie, Ricky, Sam, Biggins, James, Saira move in a world that involves, talent, skill, intellect and a real profession. In their real life they wouldn't give that little scrote the time of day. These people have achieved things that are worthy or admiration and respect. Bear has achieved nothing.”

*high-five*
Arthur_B
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“He got her to show herself up good and proper. Ace move by Bear.”

He's going to win, and yes, Aubrey fell into a trap and will suffer the wrath of Bear's fanbase as a result of this. But Bear didn't wittingly set that trap - he isn't smart enough.
Jim_Bob5
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“So it means something when you tell that to somebody who's just boasted to you that they came from nothing and have achieved something by virtue of being on Big Brother.”

The very same show she is on. I know she can't accept it because she likes to believe she's above everybody but they're on the same show and on the same level.

People perform at the Garden all the time, it really doesn't mean anything. Diddy was taking all the profits anyway, they were just his gofers. Aubrey couldn't even keep that going, she had to talk down to him too and get herself fired.

She's conceited, without a reason.
LoobyLouThe1st
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“Those defending Aubrey don't get it, she has no modesty, she's a typical arrogant American who thinks she's above every one, Bear maybe an arrogant, annoying idiot at times, but at least he's modest about what he is and where he's come from, Aubrey though is living in cloud cooky land where she's the centre of a attention despite being on a lowly British reality show with the least famous cast ever and she doesn't even stand out. I thought she was an x factor reject like Katie.”

And after that rant, what they haven't shown in tonight's HLs was how she called Marnie a C*nt, just because she had had the temerity to call Renee up, rightly so, on dragging Chloe into the earlier argument and saying her knickers had the crotch rotted out of them! Marnie was spot on in sticking up for Chloe there and I couldn't stand Chloe myself.

Aubrey wouldn't know 'keeping it real' if it jumped up and bit her in the arse. She moans on about folks talking behind other folks' backs when she is the past mistress of it
xuryxx
24-08-2016
Let's get some perspective here: Aubrey is Chanel and Bear is Primark. That's how these two compare in terms of career lucrativeness.
roseblue1
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by xuryxx:
“Let's get some perspective here: Aubrey is Chanel and Bear is Primark. That's how these two compare in terms of career lucrativeness.”

Many people are happy with Primark in this country...
Astute
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jim_Bob5:
“lol so what? being at MSG really doesn't mean jack.”

By the same token he feels like he is above everyone because he has survived evictions in CBB
AnotherPOV
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by xuryxx:
“Let's get some perspective here: Aubrey is Chanel and Bear is Primark. That's how these two compare in terms of career lucrativeness.”

More people can afford to buy Primark then Channel.
muggins14
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by AnotherPOV:
“Whatever she did in America it's irrelevant here in Britain, she could have performed at their whitehouse, and it would still be the same. American's think their achievements in America mean something outside of America's borders when they don't matter a fig to the rest of the world.”

There is some truth to this in some respects. Being successful doesn't mean successful everywhere - look at Cliff Richard, mega rich, successful Brit in the UK, a complete failure in the USA where they've never heard of him. It's not harmed his career though. Same with Status Quo.
Reality Sucks
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by WalterHartright:
“She does but it doesn't mean that it's wise. This does risk being interpreted by the public as a proclamation that she's above people like Bear as in not very famous people, rather than people like Bear as in obnoxious immature people.”

She's only going to upset Bear supporters and they'd never vote for anyone but him anyway, The rest of us are applauding her - at last someone gave him what for.
dome
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by xuryxx:
“Let's get some perspective here: Aubrey is Chanel and Bear is Primark. That's how these two compare in terms of career lucrativeness.”

And both not worth knowing.

Neither know how to behave.
Menk
24-08-2016
It is only because Aubrey knows that she has been beaten in there by somebody with no talent and no accolades that she has to pull the 'I've done more than you and I am recognised' card.

She cannot beat him in that house. Does that bother her? A seriously competitive person? You betcha!

It was pure sour grapes.
Astute
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jim_Bob5:
“The very same show she is on. I know she can't accept it because she likes to believe she's above everybody but they're on the same show and on the same level.

People perform at the Garden all the time, it really doesn't mean anything. Diddy was taking all the profits anyway, they were just his gofers. Aubrey couldn't even keep that going, she had to talk down to him too and get herself fired.

She's conceited, without a reason.”

And Bear is famous for what ? Shagging and being drunk on TV and still " has no money "
muggins14
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by WalterHartright:
“She does but it doesn't mean that it's wise. This does risk being interpreted by the public as a proclamation that she's above people like Bear as in not very famous people, rather than people like Bear as in obnoxious immature people.”

It doesn't matter now though, she can boast all she wants - there are no more nominations and, unless she walks or is thrown out, she gets paid either way as long as she makes it through the show.
Darcyprincess
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“Yes, it was snobbery and yes, she went too far with her insults. And she has no chance of winning. But the basic premise of what she said regarding Bear was spot on.”

I don't think it s snobbery, she spoke the truth, good on Aubery for telling Bear how it is! She is very articulate and put her argument over well. He was tongue tied and shocked and had no answer! Bear is everything she said he was!
Tim Cullen
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by xuryxx:
“Let's get some perspective here: Aubrey is Chanel and Bear is Primark. That's how these two compare in terms of career lucrativeness.”

She maybe have been "Chanel" in the past but they are both in the Big Brother house right now.

That usually marks the end of any kind of serious career in showbiz.
Arthur_B
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I don't think it s snobbery, she spoke the truth, good on Aubery for telling Bear how it is! She is very articulate and put her argument over well. He was tongue tied and shocked and had no answer! Bear is everything she said he was!”

Oh I agree. LONG time coming
Darcyprincess
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Menk:
“It is only because Aubrey knows that she has been beaten in there by somebody with no talent and no accolades that she has to pull the 'I've done more than you and I am recognised' card.

She cannot beat him in that house. Does that bother her? A seriously competitive person? You betcha!

It was pure sour grapes.”

No it wasn't sour grapes, it was the frustration of the producers letting Bear cause havoc and letting him do just as he pleases with no respect for anybody's space or their belongings! They have let him get away with murder when in essence he should have been thrown out! No wonder she was angry!
muggins14
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“He got her to show herself up good and proper. Ace move by Bear.”

That shows how differently we see things. I think he showed himself up - he started on her whilst making the beds, couldn't just leave it (neither was talking to the other), he started on about how she should be ashamed.

He's been showing himself up for 3 weeks now, I think she's entitled to one blow out. She talked to him pretty rationally over the last 3 weeks overall.

Yes, before anybody says it, she spat in his food and drink which is despicable. She was punished and, as he said, he had his vengeance and it was put to bed. He also then asked her to spit in his mouth, so the matter seemed concluded in some strange fashion.

I think he's driven them all crazy for weeks now and, of all of them - barring that one incident - she's kept her cool better than most. He seems admiring of her, talks of her game-playing abilities with almost envy, he knew she'd give it back and she really has nothing to lose so she did.

I see nothing wrong with snapping eventually - it's amazing it took so long but she didn't want to be nominated
peterstone
24-08-2016
Originally Posted by Warp:
“He is known by the younger generation, I doubt any generation knows about Aubrey.”

He's known by people who watch EOTB and CBB. The younger generation is a sweeping statement
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