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PRIYA v. CHRISSIE
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Whedonite
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Rakesh was fighting back, Chrissie did not hit him physically but she was attacking him psychologically. She did not just back out of a business deal she was blackmailing him and threatening to destroy his marriage most of which was done for her own twisted pleasure. If you think Rakesh was wrong for choking her then you should think Chrissie is just as bad if not worse for her own actions.

Now as for what others were saying about Rakesh raping her that is ridiculous I could never co-sign on that stuff.”

I think that Chrissie is terrible. She's been winding me up with her horrid behaviour.

Am I expected to feel bad for Rakesh though? No one forced him to cheat. He didn't "fight back", he attacked Chrissie. Fighting back is not physically attacking someone, because you've lost your temper. He's brought everything on himself, from his criminal actions, to his willingness to sleep with Chrissie behind Priya's back. Chrissie doesn't have to bail him out of anything. She had every right to back out. Her behaviour regarding taking pictures was nasty, but Rakesh set himself up.

Yeah, those comments are something else entirely. The comments I read about women on a daily basis online, are disgusting.
Mark_Washingto1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Of course Chrissie shouldn't have done what she did but as some of us have said, Rakesh should have gone to the police - violence was not the answer. You have made it clear several times that you don't have a problem with violence but whether you like it or not, a lot of us do.”

I wouldn't say I'm ok with violence I just think that in this situation Rakesh was justified in his actions. You can only push a person so far before they fight back and sometimes when you push someone mentally it has a much worse affect on them than if you were to punch or kick them.
Whedonite
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I wouldn't say I'm ok with violence I just think that in this situation Rakesh was justified in his actions. You can only push a person so far before they fight back and sometimes when you push someone mentally it has a much worse affect on them than if you were to punch or kick them.”

I'm not seeing why people think she pushed him far mentally.

She backed out of their deal, which means he now has to sort out his money troubles his own way. His money troubles exist, because he burned down a building, which resulted in Nicola becoming partially paralysed. No sympathy from me whatsoever. Chrissie doesn't owe him a thing.

She pushed him by setting him up to be caught cheating? How is that pushing him so far, that he had every right to physically attack her? His own actions were his downfall.

I'm really not getting this physiological torture thing, that he's apparently experienced from Chrissie. I did miss a couple of episodes though, so am I missing something?
Andybear
29-08-2016
Mark - if it had been anyone but Andy would you still feel this way or have you still got the hump because Kelvin got his wife pregnant and has gone on paternity leave and you are blaming a fictional character for it? When it comes to your favourite characters you do tend to be blind with what's wrong and what's right.
Andybear
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“I'm not seeing why people think she pushed him far mentally.

She backed out of their deal, which means he now has to sort out his money troubles his own way. His money troubles exist, because he burned down a building, which resulted in Nicola becoming partially paralysed. No sympathy from me whatsoever. Chrissie doesn't owe him a thing.

She pushed him by setting him up to be caught cheating? How is that pushing him so far, that he had every right to physically attack her? His own actions were his downfall.

I'm really not getting this physiological torture thing, that he's apparently experienced from Chrissie. I did miss a couple of episodes though, so am I missing something?”

No, you're not missing anything. Everything you've said is spot on and likewise I have absolutely no sympathy with him. If he'd got the dry rot sorted out none of this would have happened but he decided to go down the illegal route and a lot of people have got hurt as a result. He's the author of his own problems.
Mark_Washingto1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“I think that Chrissie is terrible. She's been winding me up with her horrid behaviour.

Am I expected to feel bad for Rakesh though? No one forced him to cheat. He didn't "fight back", he attacked Chrissie. Fighting back is not physically attacking someone, because you've lost your temper. He's brought everything on himself, from his criminal actions, to his willingness to sleep with Chrissie behind Priya's back. Chrissie doesn't have to bail him out of anything. She had every right to back out. Her behaviour regarding taking pictures was nasty, but Rakesh set himself up.

Yeah, those comments are something else entirely. The comments I read about women on a daily basis online, are disgusting.”

At first yes most of Rakesh's problems were the result of his own actions, however Chrissie took advantage of Rakesh's problems and tried to manipulate him to suit her own needs. She put herself in the middle of his problems and started playing with his emotions.
Andybear
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“At first yes most of Rakesh's problems were the result of his own actions, however Chrissie took advantage of Rakesh's problems and tried to manipulate him to suit her own needs. She put herself in the middle of his problems and started playing with his emotions.”

There were no emotions involved - he just wants the money and he will do whatever it takes to get it, including attacking someone. I actually think Chrissie should go to the police and do him for assault.
Whedonite
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“No, you're not missing anything. Everything you've said is spot on and likewise I have absolutely no sympathy with him. If he'd got the dry rot sorted out none of this would have happened but he decided to go down the illegal route and a lot of people have got hurt as a result.”

I honestly wanted some sort of "she's also done this..." answer, because then that would mean people weren't legitimately supporting Rakes for attacking Chrissie, when his problems are entirely of his own making.

Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“At first yes most of Rakesh's problems were the result of his own actions, however Chrissie took advantage of Rakesh's problems and tried to manipulate him to suit her own needs. She put herself in the middle of his problems and started playing with his emotions.”

Yes and while her actions are pretty selfish, it doesn't excuse a violent attack in the slightest.

He had no right to attack her for backing out of their deal.

He also had no right to attack her for taking pictures of him cheating.

His actions caused his problems and people are blaming Chrissie. I don't get it.
Mark_Washingto1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Mark - if it had been anyone but Andy would you still feel this way or have you still got the hump because Kelvin got his wife pregnant and has gone on paternity leave and you are blaming a fictional character for it? When it comes to your favourite characters you do tend to be blind with what's wrong and what's right.”

This has nothing to do with Andy. It has more to do with my own beliefs.I have seen situations where a woman psychologically or physically attacks a man and he is the one look at as wrong when she was the aggressor. I have met females who think that the old saying "a man shouldn't hit a woman" means that the woman can do whatever to a man and he has to sit there and take it. This situation with Rakesh and Chrissie speaks to that, she was psychologically attacked him and he fought back.
Mark_Washingto1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“I honestly wanted some sort of "she's also done this..." answer, because then that would mean people weren't legitimately supporting Rakes for attacking Chrissie, when his problems are entirely of his own making.



Yes and while her actions are pretty selfish, it doesn't excuse a violent attack in the slightest.

He had no right to attack her for backing out of their deal.

He also had no right to attack her for taking pictures of him cheating.

His actions caused his problems and people are blaming Chrissie. I don't get it.”

And at the same time Chrissie had no right to blackmail him, use him and toy with his mind so you should at least say they were both equally wrong.
Mark_Washingto1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“There were no emotions involved - he just wants the money and he will do whatever it takes to get it, including attacking someone. I actually think Chrissie should go to the police and do him for assault.”

LOL if she goes to the police she can be arrested for blackmail and perverting the course of justice.
Whedonite
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“And at the same time Chrissie had no right to blackmail him, use him and toy with his mind so you should at least say they were both equally wrong.”

Yet you're defending Rakesh for choking Chrissie. It doesn't matter if someone backs out of giving you money, you have no right to choke them! If you decide to cheat on your wife too, you brought the fallout on yourself.

Blackmail him over what? His criminal actions?
trevor tiger
29-08-2016
I thought it was hilarious when Rakesh lunges at Chrissie and she completely backed off whimpering. Here she is playing with the big boys trying to humiliate, denigrate and completely destroy somebody and is shocked that someone acts physically towards her. This is particularly and wonderfully ironic when she just stabbed herself recently and blamed Andy

I also thought it was amusing that they ran the Charity story line during the same week being physically threatened by yet another enemy of Cain's. I can't stand Charity but she is a real villain who managed to manipulate the guy and get the better of him even in that situation. Chrissie is just a spoilt child acting up with no real threat other than being able to wave money around. I just hope Rakesh got enough to sort him self out though I really wish he wouldn't apologise to her for what he did and instead just send evils her way so she knows not to mess with him again
trevor tiger
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“LOL if she goes to the police she can be arrested for blackmail and perverting the course of justice.”

Yes and Lachlan her precious son can do time for shooting his grandad.
Mark_Washingto1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“I thought it was hilarious when Rakesh lunges at Chrissie and she completely backed off whimpering. Here she is playing with the big boys trying to humiliate, denigrate and completely destroy somebody and is shocked that someone acts physically towards her. This is particularly and wonderfully ironic when she just stabbed herself recently and blamed Andy

I also thought it was amusing that they ran the Charity story line during the same week being physically threatened by yet another enemy of Cain's. I can't stand Charity but she is a real villain who managed to manipulate the guy and get the better of him even in that situation. Chrissie is just a spoilt child acting up with no real threat other than being able to wave money around. I just hope Rakesh got enough to sort him self out though I really wish he wouldn't apologise to her for what he did and instead just send evils her way so she knows not to mess with him again ”

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Yes and Lachlan her precious son can do time for shooting his grandad.”

I completely agree with both posts and Lawrence should go down for perverting the course of justice as well
Nico_D
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“This has nothing to do with Andy. It has more to do with my own beliefs.I have seen situations where a woman psychologically or physically attacks a man and he is the one look at as wrong when she was the aggressor. I have met females who think that the old saying "a man shouldn't hit a woman" means that the woman can do whatever to a man and he has to sit there and take it. This situation with Rakesh and Chrissie speaks to that, she was psychologically attacked him and he fought back.”

So why not fight back psychologically, put it this way mark if it was Cain humiliating rakesh like that rakesh would have just walked away
Nico_D
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I completely agree with both posts and Lawrence should go down for perverting the course of justice as well”

What about Andy, should he go down got several charges of attempted murder, conspiracy to murder and domestic abuse?
Whedonite
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“So why not fight back psychologically, put it this way mark if it was Cain humiliating rakesh like that rakesh would have just walked away”

The same reason why a lot of men hit women, they usually can't physically fight back.

You wouldn't see Andy bullying a much bigger man. He had to go for much smaller women.
Mark_Washingto1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“So why not fight back psychologically, put it this way mark if it was Cain humiliating rakesh like that rakesh would have just walked away”

Because everyone fights differently, some fight physically and some do psychotically we all do what works best for us.

As for what Rakesh would do with Cain you can't say that for sure, that is just speculation.


Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“What about Andy, should he go down got several charges of attempted murder, conspiracy to murder and domestic abuse?”

I honestly don't think Andy should go down for Robert's attempted murder after Robert killed Andy's wife. As for domestic abuse Andy didn't go to jail but he did go get mental help which is probably better than going to jail, jail often makes people more angry and violent instead of reforming them.
Whedonite
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Because everyone fights differently, some fight physically and some do psychotically we all do what works best for us.

As for what Rakesh would do with Cain you can't say that for sure, that is just speculation.




I honestly don't think Andy should go down for Robert's attempted murder after Robert killed Andy's wife. As for domestic abuse Andy didn't go to jail but he did go get mental help which is probably better than going to jail, jail often makes people more angry and violent instead of reforming them.”

Escaping jail means he was never legally punished. Why do you support that for domestic abusers I remember his scenes with Jo and they were disturbing to watch.

Criminals can receive punishment and treatment.
Nico_D
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Because everyone fights differently, some fight physically and some do psychotically we all do what works best for us.

As for what Rakesh would do with Cain you can't say that for sure, that is just speculation.




I honestly don't think Andy should go down for Robert's attempted murder after Robert killed Andy's wife. As for domestic abuse Andy didn't go to jail but he did go get mental help which is probably better than going to jail, jail often makes people more angry and violent instead of reforming them.”

What about the first time he tried to kill Robert for an affair, you seem repulsed chrissie has punished Andy with a prison sentence for his affair. Also getting help didn't stop him being violent to Adele or Kerry plus he should go to prison for trying to kill Pete it was pure luck he didn't kill him and only changes his mind afterwards.

Also it's more than speculation to suggest he wouldn't be violent to Cain, rembered Cain kidnapped him and beat him up and when he realised he wasn't sleeping with belle he pretty much laughed in rakeshs face and said "soz" and rakesh pretty much shuffled away with his balls tucked between his legs.

It's the same with Andy, Cain has bullied him for years and he was able to control his temper. They both decided to be violent to women to punish or control them because they knew it was fights they could win. Pair of despicable repulsive hypocritical cowards.
ME1234567
29-08-2016
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bornfree
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“At first yes most of Rakesh's problems were the result of his own actions, however Chrissie took advantage of Rakesh's problems and tried to manipulate him to suit her own needs. She put herself in the middle of his problems and started playing with his emotions.”

She did all this which is true, but he could have been a better person and gone to the police. Chrissie has form. She killed people. Chrissie was very wrong to cry rape which IMO is very serious. I cant stand people who trivialise rape.
Mark_Washingto1
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“Escaping jail means he was never legally punished. Why do you support that for domestic abusers I remember his scenes with Jo and they were disturbing to watch.

Criminals can receive punishment and treatment.”

There are lot of times (at least here in the US) where they don't send a person to jail but to treatment instead. Its about rehabilitating the person

Originally Posted by Nico_D:
“What about the first time he tried to kill Robert for an affair, you seem repulsed chrissie has punished Andy with a prison sentence for his affair. Also getting help didn't stop him being violent to Adele or Kerry plus he should go to prison for trying to kill Pete it was pure luck he didn't kill him and only changes his mind afterwards.

Also it's more than speculation to suggest he wouldn't be violent to Cain, rembered Cain kidnapped him and beat him up and when he realised he wasn't sleeping with belle he pretty much laughed in rakeshs face and said "soz" and rakesh pretty much shuffled away with his balls tucked between his legs.

It's the same with Andy, Cain has bullied him for years and he was able to control his temper. They both decided to be violent to women to punish or control them because they knew it was fights they could win. Pair of despicable repulsive hypocritical cowards.”

I didn't see Andy be violent towards anyone but Jo so I really can't comment that deeply on the other two cases but maybe was it a one time thing and what were the exact circumstances of the situations?
Nico_D
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“There are lot of times (at least here in the US) where they don't send a person to jail but to treatment instead. Its about rehabilitating the person



I didn't see Andy be violent towards anyone but Jo so I really can't comment that deeply on the other two cases but maybe was it a one time thing and what were the exact circumstances of the situations?”

Kerry started a fire when his kids was upstairs ( anger unseat dabble, violence isn't) and Adele was going out with her freinds and Andy got jealous, regardless of reasons Andy has and extensive list of being violent towards women.

Like I said I belivie Andy and rakesh to be huge cowards who only become violent when they know they can win the physical confrontation.
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