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Old 29-09-2016, 15:07
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That is an impressive list but they've also lost a few silly ones I think.

Like losing to Maribor a couple of years ago.

Credit to them for raising their game though against the big boys and not being scared.
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Old 29-09-2016, 15:44
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All one-off games but the reality is Celtic are full of Championship standard players, because thats where you shop.
Your stadium is only full of passionate fans for these games and maybe a couple of others. Its half empty for run of the mill league games when its nailed on you will win.
EPL teams are full of Championship standard players as well

Lingard playing for Man Utd one of the top teams, he wouldnt get on the Celtic bench

Lustig, Toure, Sviatchenko, Tierney, Brown, Sinclair, Rogic and Dembele would all get games for EPL teams arguably Bitton and Roberts too.

Just look at teams who finish top half in the EPL with centre-mids like Mark Noble, Danny Drinkwater, Steven Davis, James McArthur, Mike Jedinak, Jack Cork, Leroy Fer - Scott Brown is better than these guys.
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Old 29-09-2016, 15:48
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Seeing as Villa played him in around half the games of their worst season in living memory, Sinclair would be snapped up.
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Old 29-09-2016, 15:56
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Seeing as Villa played him in around half the games of their worst season in living memory, Sinclair would be snapped up.
Hard for a player like Sinclair to do the business when playing for a dour useless team like Aston Villa. If he played for Bournemouth, Watford, Swansea, West Brom or some other teams he would have been fine.

Jordan Ibe, Robert Snodgrass, Jesse Lingard, Nathan Dyer, Jermain Lens, Jon Walters I could go on and on and be here all day, none of them better than Sinclair.

Facts are the EPL has hundreds of poor players getting games in it.

Donald Love, Paddy McNair, David Nugent, Conor Wickham, Pienaar, Scott Arfield, James McArthur, Darren Fletcher, Martin Kelly, Craig Cathcart, Glenn Whelan, Charlie Adam, Jake Livermore, Andrew Surman, Matt Phillips, Adam Clayton, Daniel Ayala, Geoff Cameron, Charlie Daniels, Sam Vokes, David Meyler - Celtic wouldnt even accept players like this as back-up.
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Old 29-09-2016, 15:57
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Passion and atmosphere based on bigotry and sectarian hatred?

Thanks, but you can keep it.
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:08
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Passion and atmosphere based on bigotry and sectarian hatred?

Thanks, but you can keep it.
Thats the wrong team you are thinking about.

Celtic have never been sectarian, we've signed players from everywhere from the start. It was Rangers who didnt sign catholics and Rangers who hate catholics you are thinking about.

Celtic have never cared, Celtic had protestant players from our first ever game, we've had loads of Protestant captains and managers. It was Rangers who only had 1 catholic manager and 1 catholic captain in their existance. It was Rangers who went decades without signing Catholic players, it was Rangers fans who burnes tops, season tickets and protested at signing a Catholic player a mere ~25 years ago.

Celtic get roped in due to the "Old Firm" tag but if you knew your history, Celtic have never had a problem with anyone.
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:10
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I guess Sinclair would do a job for us (Watford) but then ability wise he is very good - just never had the chance or really produced it.

You list a lot of players from lower or newly promoted Premier league clubs there..
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:14
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I guess Sinclair would do a job for us (Watford) but then ability wise he is very good - just never had the chance or really produced it.

You list a lot of players from lower or newly promoted Premier league clubs there..
Still though there are plenty of poor players playing in the EPL, probably over 100 players will play in the EPL this season who wouldnt get a game for Celtic.

I point you to Thingmy Blackett Celtic had on loan from Man Utd, I cant even remember his first name, absolutley horrendous player,, put in the worst defensive display ive ever witnessed for Celtic in a Europa League game last season - he actually played over a dozen games for Man Utd.

Dedryck Boyata? Celtic's 5th choice centre-back played dozens of games in the EPL.

The EPL is a lot poorer than people give it credit for. There is not a chance that an EPL team will win the Champions League this season, more chance of Celtic winning the Europa League.
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:17
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Hard for a player like Sinclair to do the business when playing for a dour useless team like Aston Villa. If he played for Bournemouth, Watford, Swansea, West Brom or some other teams he would have been fine.
Maybe not West Brom, considering they used him less than Villa did.
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:19
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Maybe not West Brom, considering they used him less than Villa did.
Tony the Dinosaur Pulis there though, better chance of Stevie Wonder spotting a talented footballer. Pulis would fill his XI with 6ft 4, 15 stone athletes if he could.
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:23
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Probably why Blackett was so to Reading...

Certainly there are a lot of average players picking up lots of money for doing very little but its like that across the world really.
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:26
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Probably why Blackett was so to Reading...

Certainly there are a lot of average players picking up lots of money for doing very little but its like that across the world really.
I know, just saying though he tried to insult Celtic saying lower League and full of Championship players ignoring the fact that there are probably 100+ Championship standard players playing in the EPL.

Wes Morgan would be laughed out of a training session at any half decent European club as a joker pretending to be a footballer and he is the captain of the EPL champions. The standard in the EPL isn't as good as made out to be.

No offence to Morgan or Leicester fans but he is an average player who is lucky to be in the EPL as are plenty of others playing week in week out.
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Old 29-09-2016, 16:28
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Tony the Dinosaur Pulis there though, better chance of Stevie Wonder spotting a talented footballer. Pulis would fill his XI with 6ft 4, 15 stone athletes if he could.
Pepe Mel days I think it was then, 13/14 season. Going to Man City made him stagnate really, he always looked very bright going back as far as Plymouth so hopefully he does the business for you
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Old 29-09-2016, 18:19
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EPL teams are full of Championship standard players as well

Lingard playing for Man Utd one of the top teams, he wouldnt get on the Celtic bench

Lustig, Toure, Sviatchenko, Tierney, Brown, Sinclair, Rogic and Dembele would all get games for EPL teams arguably Bitton and Roberts too.

Just look at teams who finish top half in the EPL with centre-mids like Mark Noble, Danny Drinkwater, Steven Davis, James McArthur, Mike Jedinak, Jack Cork, Leroy Fer - Scott Brown is better than these guys.
Your bigging up players just because they play for Celtic. To suggest Dembele is good enough for the EPL based on a handful of games is laughable. He wasn't even first choice at Fulham last season.

Impressing in the SPL is not difficult is it. Sinclair looks a star. He wasn't at any of his previous clubs. You need to be realistic.

Of course, if any are any good, you are feeder for the English clubs anyway so in time we will know.
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Old 29-09-2016, 22:30
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Your bigging up players just because they play for Celtic. To suggest Dembele is good enough for the EPL based on a handful of games is laughable. He wasn't even first choice at Fulham last season.

Impressing in the SPL is not difficult is it. Sinclair looks a star. He wasn't at any of his previous clubs. You need to be realistic.

Of course, if any are any good, you are feeder for the English clubs anyway so in time we will know.
Celtic fans know a player when we see one. Forster, Van Dijk, Wanyama we also know players from playing beside each other for Scotland compared to players we have.

Scott Brown has been better than Darren Fletcher for 5 years and James McArthur is dire in comparison to Brown yet a very effective EPL player. We have seen players like Naismith and Davis, Ki and Ledley and others playing in Scotland and England and know how other player would do.

Dembele was 19 last season playing his first real season, you wouldn't expect top notch performances all season.
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Old 18-10-2016, 21:29
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Bloke on loan from Monaco has scored potentially the winner against them!
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Old 18-10-2016, 21:57
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Great first three games for Leicester I suppose one way to get back in the champions league is win it.

Joking aside getting a favourable last 16 would be great for them
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Old 19-10-2016, 11:09
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Great first three games for Leicester I suppose one way to get back in the champions league is win it.

Joking aside getting a favourable last 16 would be great for them
Would it? I'd still bet on most of the second placed teams beating Leicester. And for a team like Leicester, let's be honest - they're not going to win it, and it'll probably be a long time before they're in it again, so would you not rather go out to one of the "big" teams. So far they've played against some teams that are not even Europa League standard, and Porto, who are average at best. Imagine 2 games v Bayern or someone similar, that would be an amazing experience for the fans!
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Old 19-10-2016, 11:38
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Would it? I'd still bet on most of the second placed teams beating Leicester. And for a team like Leicester, let's be honest - they're not going to win it, and it'll probably be a long time before they're in it again, so would you not rather go out to one of the "big" teams. So far they've played against some teams that are not even Europa League standard, and Porto, who are average at best. Imagine 2 games v Bayern or someone similar, that would be an amazing experience for the fans!
I'm sure they'd rather play a team that they've actually got a reasonable chance of beating and go as far in the competition as they can, before meeting one of the big teams. Their best chance would probably be playing the runner-up from Napoli's group.
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Old 19-10-2016, 11:49
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Would it? I'd still bet on most of the second placed teams beating Leicester. And for a team like Leicester, let's be honest - they're not going to win it, and it'll probably be a long time before they're in it again, so would you not rather go out to one of the "big" teams. So far they've played against some teams that are not even Europa League standard, and Porto, who are average at best. Imagine 2 games v Bayern or someone similar, that would be an amazing experience for the fans!
I bet many people said the same about the league.

I am sure you would have bet on many teams beating them last year as well.

They get a favorable draw and you never know what might might happen, They get to the semi's and you get that bit of luck and you find yourself in a final
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Old 19-10-2016, 16:05
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I'm sure they'd rather play a team that they've actually got a reasonable chance of beating and go as far in the competition as they can, before meeting one of the big teams. Their best chance would probably be playing the runner-up from Napoli's group.
Hmm maybe, but I would still favour whoever they were playing, especially over 2 legs.
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Old 19-10-2016, 18:42
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Can Man City do the impossible and actually get a point off Barca in the Champions League.

As long as City don't do anything stupid and get a defender sent off it should be a good game.
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Old 19-10-2016, 19:03
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Can Man City do the impossible and actually get a point off Barca in the Champions League.

As long as City don't do anything stupid and get a defender sent off it should be a good game.
The interesting thing with city is if they lose twice to Barcelona and say Celtic take 4 points from two games from borussia monchengladbach their qualification would be far from certain
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Old 19-10-2016, 19:30
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Aguero dropped.
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Old 19-10-2016, 19:32
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Bit of a shock about Sergio...
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