WTF are we watching on feed??
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Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Even scripted reality, as they call it, isn't scripted (TOWIE etc) just set-up scenes, I know you believe that every word of the whole series we have watched was pre-written, but I seriously doubt that this is the case.
Sure what we saw was them pre-recording a couple of things, but that's not an admission of scripting the show.”
“Even scripted reality, as they call it, isn't scripted (TOWIE etc) just set-up scenes, I know you believe that every word of the whole series we have watched was pre-written, but I seriously doubt that this is the case.
Sure what we saw was them pre-recording a couple of things, but that's not an admission of scripting the show.”
No I don't believe that at all Muggins ,so get off your high horse and stop thinking you're so superior it's becoming tiresome
When I say the whole things scripted and a load of shite ,I Mean in a Towie way for example as in they are assigned certain roles ,Given Certain Scenes to act out ,and then they Ad-Lib them ......Not that it's Scripted as in an actual Script like a bloody film
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“Luke wouldn't lie to me - I think it is a Viacom thing and they want it to be more like their other reality shows.”
“Luke wouldn't lie to me - I think it is a Viacom thing and they want it to be more like their other reality shows.”
Could be Jeano ,if he told you Privately ....all I know is it's got more and more scripted as the years have gone by
Originally Posted by geppsdood:
“I think this is quite an over reaction. Ok, they shot the "good night finalists" scene. That's hardly affecting any storylines. It's just a bit that maybe they wanted everyone to be in bed for, as the iconic scene which has ended so many series recently.
If they just tried to do that naturally, people will be coming to bed at different times.
Just because they set this scene up, doesn't mean the entire thing is scripted! I've known ex BB housemates, they haven't ever scripted anything, asked them to say anything, or asked them to perform a certain way
Calm down folks....”
“I think this is quite an over reaction. Ok, they shot the "good night finalists" scene. That's hardly affecting any storylines. It's just a bit that maybe they wanted everyone to be in bed for, as the iconic scene which has ended so many series recently.
If they just tried to do that naturally, people will be coming to bed at different times.
Just because they set this scene up, doesn't mean the entire thing is scripted! I've known ex BB housemates, they haven't ever scripted anything, asked them to say anything, or asked them to perform a certain way
Calm down folks....”
I agree, people are jumping the gun here. Still very weird that they showed it being directed so openly on live feed though.
Originally Posted by geppsdood:
“I think this is quite an over reaction. Ok, they shot the "good night finalists" scene. That's hardly affecting any storylines. It's just a bit that maybe they wanted everyone to be in bed for, as the iconic scene which has ended so many series recently.
If they just tried to do that naturally, people will be coming to bed at different times.
Just because they set this scene up, doesn't mean the entire thing is scripted! I've known ex BB housemates, they haven't ever scripted anything, asked them to say anything, or asked them to perform a certain way
Calm down folks....”
“I think this is quite an over reaction. Ok, they shot the "good night finalists" scene. That's hardly affecting any storylines. It's just a bit that maybe they wanted everyone to be in bed for, as the iconic scene which has ended so many series recently.
If they just tried to do that naturally, people will be coming to bed at different times.
Just because they set this scene up, doesn't mean the entire thing is scripted! I've known ex BB housemates, they haven't ever scripted anything, asked them to say anything, or asked them to perform a certain way
Calm down folks....”
I'm with you on this. It's for the last night 'lights off' shot they always do.
If the HMs were told what to do all the time in this way we'd have seen it on Live Feed before, wouldn't we?
Doesn't it stand to reason that because we've not seen it, it hasn't happened? Tonight was a one off.
It wasn't just the 'Goodnight' scene.
It was also gathering the housemates to the sofas just to get the news that they are finalists. Which they'd already been told.
And housemates knowing full well that they were scheduled to have a party, one or two talking about getting it over with, and saying that they'd already earned their cheque.
The 'party' which lasted a mere couple of minutes.
All three of these 'scenes', including the 'goodnight' scene were an example of housemates being led from one scene to another to play out a series of actions which will be presented as spontaneous 'reality' on tomorrow night's show.
It was also gathering the housemates to the sofas just to get the news that they are finalists. Which they'd already been told.
And housemates knowing full well that they were scheduled to have a party, one or two talking about getting it over with, and saying that they'd already earned their cheque.
The 'party' which lasted a mere couple of minutes.
All three of these 'scenes', including the 'goodnight' scene were an example of housemates being led from one scene to another to play out a series of actions which will be presented as spontaneous 'reality' on tomorrow night's show.
Originally Posted by digichant:
“I agree, people are jumping the gun here. Still very weird that they showed it being directed so openly on live feed though.”
“I agree, people are jumping the gun here. Still very weird that they showed it being directed so openly on live feed though.”
Well, they probably thought it wasn't that big a thing. Which really....it isn't.
Originally Posted by cah:
“Could be Jeano ,if he told you Privately ....all I know is it's got more and more scripted as the years have gone by”
“Could be Jeano ,if he told you Privately ....all I know is it's got more and more scripted as the years have gone by”
True but not for the better, so the jokes on them.
Love island and Ex on beach are very set up apparently and so fake imagine if BB was like that... Well it's nearly that way
We need another show that's live and not scripted, not sure it's ever gonna happen?
Okay just putting it out there.. what if they have done this to create buzz? They may just laugh it off and say oh we only scripted that one scene because of time constraints.
Originally Posted by geppsdood:
“I think this is quite an over reaction. Ok, they shot the "good night finalists" scene. That's hardly affecting any storylines. It's just a bit that maybe they wanted everyone to be in bed for, as the iconic scene which has ended so many series recently.
If they just tried to do that naturally, people will be coming to bed at different times.
Just because they set this scene up, doesn't mean the entire thing is scripted! I've known ex BB housemates, they haven't ever scripted anything, asked them to say anything, or asked them to perform a certain way
Calm down folks....”
“I think this is quite an over reaction. Ok, they shot the "good night finalists" scene. That's hardly affecting any storylines. It's just a bit that maybe they wanted everyone to be in bed for, as the iconic scene which has ended so many series recently.
If they just tried to do that naturally, people will be coming to bed at different times.
Just because they set this scene up, doesn't mean the entire thing is scripted! I've known ex BB housemates, they haven't ever scripted anything, asked them to say anything, or asked them to perform a certain way
Calm down folks....”
It was much more than that though - they made them all make sure they were dressed, played a tune, they all got up and danced and that was it - back to what they were doing before.
The housemates seemed as utterly bemused by it all as us didn't they? When BB said they could go back to bed Ricky was just going, "what? What the hell was that about?"
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“It wasn't just the 'Goodnight' scene.
It was also gathering the housemates to the sofas just to get the news that they are finalists. Which they'd already been told.
And housemates knowing full well that they were scheduled to have a party, one or two talking about getting it over with, and saying that they'd already earned their cheque.
The 'party' which lasted a mere couple of minutes.
All three of these 'scenes', including the 'goodnight' scene were an example of housemates being led from one scene to another to play out a series of actions which will be presented as spontaneous 'reality' on tomorrow night's show.”
“It wasn't just the 'Goodnight' scene.
It was also gathering the housemates to the sofas just to get the news that they are finalists. Which they'd already been told.
And housemates knowing full well that they were scheduled to have a party, one or two talking about getting it over with, and saying that they'd already earned their cheque.
The 'party' which lasted a mere couple of minutes.
All three of these 'scenes', including the 'goodnight' scene were an example of housemates being led from one scene to another to play out a series of actions which will be presented as spontaneous 'reality' on tomorrow night's show.”
It won't be presented as "spontaneous" reality though, it will all be part of a montage throughout which there'll be background music and we'll a hear a bit from each housemate in the diary room and so on. We've seen it all before at the end of every series.
I mentioned before that Sam was on Loose Women today and Saira came through with a video message congratulating her. Before she said goodbye, she said WTTE 'Sam only you and I will know what this means' and she held her hands in the air while pulling a shocked face. It appears to be an inside secret. Sam seemed very reluctant today to talk about Bear. Make of that what you will.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“It wasn't just the 'Goodnight' scene.
It was also gathering the housemates to the sofas just to get the news that they are finalists. Which they'd already been told.
And housemates knowing full well that they were scheduled to have a party, one or two talking about getting it over with, and saying that they'd already earned their cheque.
The 'party' which lasted a mere couple of minutes.
All three of these 'scenes', including the 'goodnight' scene were an example of housemates being led from one scene to another to play out a series of actions which will be presented as spontaneous 'reality' on tomorrow night's show.”
“It wasn't just the 'Goodnight' scene.
It was also gathering the housemates to the sofas just to get the news that they are finalists. Which they'd already been told.
And housemates knowing full well that they were scheduled to have a party, one or two talking about getting it over with, and saying that they'd already earned their cheque.
The 'party' which lasted a mere couple of minutes.
All three of these 'scenes', including the 'goodnight' scene were an example of housemates being led from one scene to another to play out a series of actions which will be presented as spontaneous 'reality' on tomorrow night's show.”
Exactly Al ,we already heard Aubrey and Rikki ,saying in the pod ,that they'd got to stay in there until BB called them to go to the sofas where they were going to be told how the rest of the night was going to go down ,when the LF first started ,and then they told Bear they wasn't going in the pool as they were waiting to go to the sofas etc
Originally Posted by JamesLaFleur:
“Okay just putting it out there.. what if they have done this to create buzz? They may just laugh it off and say oh we only scripted that one scene because of time constraints.”
“Okay just putting it out there.. what if they have done this to create buzz? They may just laugh it off and say oh we only scripted that one scene because of time constraints.”
No I've noticed on last few nights of live feed Ricky is very aware of what is about to happen in regards to the show.
Few other scenes actually, being called to say your finalists then cut, then dance scene then cut oh and happy last DR.
Originally Posted by digichant:
“I agree, people are jumping the gun here. Still very weird that they showed it being directed so openly on live feed though.”
“I agree, people are jumping the gun here. Still very weird that they showed it being directed so openly on live feed though.”
It's only weird if you refuse to believe what you've actually seen with your own eyes.
I know that some will be unable to shake off their cognitive anchoring and will refuse to believe actual reality because it's more comfortable to believe in BB's official version of events.
We had a sequence where BB literally directed housemates from one scene to another in three consecutive scenes. Yet still some people will use the excuse that whoever witnessed it was jumping the gun and that we should accept it as perfectly normal that BB direct the housemates in scenes.
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“The housemates seemed as utterly bemused by it all as us didn't they? When BB said they could go back to bed Ricky was just going, "what? What the hell was that about?"”
“The housemates seemed as utterly bemused by it all as us didn't they? When BB said they could go back to bed Ricky was just going, "what? What the hell was that about?"”
He said "they have got the shot"
Originally Posted by digiqueen:
“I mentioned before that Sam was on Loose Women today and Saira came through with a video message congratulating her. Before she said goodbye, she said WTTE 'Sam only you and I will know what this means' and she held her hands in the air while pulling a shocked face. It appears to be an inside secret. Sam seemed very reluctant today to talk about Bear. Make of that what you will.”
“I mentioned before that Sam was on Loose Women today and Saira came through with a video message congratulating her. Before she said goodbye, she said WTTE 'Sam only you and I will know what this means' and she held her hands in the air while pulling a shocked face. It appears to be an inside secret. Sam seemed very reluctant today to talk about Bear. Make of that what you will.”
I saw that hands air face thing. I just assumed it was a personal joke which we didn't see. Don't think it was anything about being scripted.
But back to this, mind **** as I said! However, some HMs seemed a bit confused at first.
Emma will step down as host after this fiasco.
She's already gutted with the direction the show's going and this is surely the final nail.
She's already gutted with the direction the show's going and this is surely the final nail.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“It's only weird if you refuse to believe what you've actually seen with your own eyes.
I know that some will be unable to shake off their cognitive anchoring and will refuse to believe actual reality because it's more comfortable to believe in BB's official version of events.
We had a sequence where BB literally directed housemates from one scene to another in three consecutive scenes. Yet still some people will use the excuse that whoever witnessed it was jumping the gun and that we should accept it as perfectly normal that BB direct the housemates in scenes.”
“It's only weird if you refuse to believe what you've actually seen with your own eyes.
I know that some will be unable to shake off their cognitive anchoring and will refuse to believe actual reality because it's more comfortable to believe in BB's official version of events.
We had a sequence where BB literally directed housemates from one scene to another in three consecutive scenes. Yet still some people will use the excuse that whoever witnessed it was jumping the gun and that we should accept it as perfectly normal that BB direct the housemates in scenes.”
Yes I know what happened, I was one of the first to explain what was going on. "Cognitive anchoring".. give me a break mate. If this was such a big deal, exposing the entire show as fake and scripted, they wouldn't have let us bloody watch it happening for 90 minutes!
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“He said "they have got the shot"”
“He said "they have got the shot"”
I was talking about the bit in the lounge. Yes I have just watched the bedroom scene now. No words.
Originally Posted by abbieunique:
“No I've noticed on last few nights of live feed Ricky is very aware of what is about to happen in regards to the show.
Few other scenes actually, being called to say your finalists then cut, then dance scene then cut oh and happy last DR.”
“No I've noticed on last few nights of live feed Ricky is very aware of what is about to happen in regards to the show.
Few other scenes actually, being called to say your finalists then cut, then dance scene then cut oh and happy last DR.”
Maybe just a cheezed off guy manning the fort then like people have said. Remember there was a crisis meeting before bb probably got someone's back up.
Originally Posted by digichant:
“It won't be presented as "spontaneous" reality though, it will all be part of a montage throughout which there'll be background music and we'll a hear a bit from each housemate in the diary room and so on. We've seen it all before at the end of every series.”
“It won't be presented as "spontaneous" reality though, it will all be part of a montage throughout which there'll be background music and we'll a hear a bit from each housemate in the diary room and so on. We've seen it all before at the end of every series.”
So the montage won't be based on moments of reality then.
You make it sound so normal for it to be scripted.
The point of montages is to remind us of 'moments', memories of reality. You're making it sound as if acted out scenes are a plausible substitute for reality.
if montages are just conceits directed by BB then the content of them is meaningless in terms of reality television moments to remember.
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