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What do you think of Kate Oates' work so far? |
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44 | 20.85% |
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69 | 32.70% |
| Not impressed so far |
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98 | 46.45% |
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I have to say that I enjoyed tonight's double bill and felt like there was a decent mix of characters with plenty going on in the aftermath of the crash. It's great to see pre-2010 Gail back on our screens. The simpering comedic Gail that we've had over the past few years was never the true fiery and fiercely protective matriarch who battled with Ivy, bore the brunt of Martin's betrayal and supported Sarah through her teenage pregnancy. The more serious side to Gail as we saw her defend David against Kevin's anger and ordering Sarah to steer clear of the Windasses was a welcome and refreshing sight. Long may this character rejuvenation continue! Whilst the fallout from the stunt was still the dominant story, there was plenty of other stories going on around it like Ken's stroke- which has been well played so far, Steve taking Peter in, Amy finding out about Michelle's pregnancy, Aidan continuing to struggle with his guilt over Maria, Alya stepping up her game at the factory, Michelle worrying about her baby etc. I really do hope this is the start of Corrie turning a corner.
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It was nice to see the Rovers and Audrey's still boarded up, usually the street would have been back to normal as if nothing ever happened, was nice to see the repercussions of the crash still happening across many different storylines.
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I've more or less given up on Corrie now but if there's been a pregnancy outbreak or people have suddenly realised they're gay then that's her work. Also past characters returning but being almost unrecognisable.
Yes, it all get's very monotonous doesn't it. |
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When did Kate Oates' storylines first start being broadcast? When she started, she was finishing up Stuart Blackburn's ideas, but when did all that finish before her own work started?
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Thankfully we're getting a swift end to the Sharif affair plot next week (Oates' first real misfire on the show IMO). I really do hope that we see Alya ostracised by her family after her blackmailing Sharif.
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Well the deadwood is still there...
Sean, Izzy, Dev, Maria, Chesney etc. 'Pantomime Dame Sean' however is engineered unnecessarily into almost every scene - why oh why ??? |
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How do these people get these jobs ?
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At least the majority of the 'deadwood', as you call them, are only seen occasionally.
'Pantomime Dame Sean' however is engineered unnecessarily into almost every scene - why oh why ??? Have you ever been to a Pantomime? He looks nothing like a Pantomime Dame |
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In the super soap week interview, she said that it looked like the platt story was fizzling out, and decided to bring it to the forefront, so that was her work.
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Unfortunately, with what she's just done I can't see any alternative to it just fizzling out, since the only other outcome is half the family ending up in jail.
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The Platts have been terrific viewing over the past number of months: Sarah's breakdown, Kylie's murder, David's vendetta, Bethany's self esteem issues, Gail being a strong matriarch once again. Even Nick has been more tolerable of late, apart from those cringeworthy scenes a while back when he took Steve out for a drive and threatened him.😠
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I did not enjoy KO's reign at Emmerdale and find Iain MacCleod's to be vastly superior. But so far, KO's Corrie is great. Good cast rotation, vastly superior writing and characterisation, and the it has a slightly epic feeling about it yet paradoxically feels more intimate. Certain things have been toned down and others refreshed. Gail is FINALLY being Gail again, and this buffoonish imposter we've had to endure for the last ten years.
The only weak points are the ghastly, irrelevant Nazirs, Kaz, and whilst they are undeniably a great family, the total domination of the Platts needs to come to an end. It was Plattination Street under Blackburn and I really hope it isn't under KO. But so far so good, I haven't enjoyed Corrie this much for about five years! |
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The continuity has improved hugely. Back in 2014, we had Maria fall for Tyrone again and started stalking him in a misguided attempt to be with him again, this was actually a storyline that had potential in terms of shining a light on Maria's mental health. Unfortunately, we had Blackburn in charge so that was quickly swept under the carpet and never mentioned again. Oates has capitalised upon that past story in using it to cast doubts around Maria when Caz makes it look like she's killed her. We're also seeing her sham marriage to Pablo (a daft throwaway plot at the time) about to be used more effectively in Caz having leverage over her.
There have been other more subtle examples: Roy and Cathy's sleeping arrangements being highlighted recently was a realistic touch, as Roy was always going to struggle with intimacy of that nature so soon after Hayley's death. We also had that quietly powerful scene of him just lying silently on the bed that he and Hayley shared and reflecting upon his relationship. I really do hope this is Oates building towards Roy actually being unable to commit to Cathy and the relationship coming to an end. Sarah is now more like the Sarah we all knew and loved at the height of Corrie's golden years. Even Kevin's anger with David, albeit very unpleasant to watch, was very in keeping with the fiery tempered and fiercely protective family man he's been for so many years now. |
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The continuity has improved hugely. Back in 2014, we had Maria fall for Tyrone again and started stalking him in a misguided attempt to be with him again, this was actually a storyline that had potential in terms of shining a light on Maria's mental health. Unfortunately, we had Blackburn in charge so that was quickly swept under the carpet and never mentioned again. Oates has capitalised upon that past story in using it to cast doubts around Maria when Caz makes it look like she's killed her. We're also seeing her sham marriage to Pablo (a daft throwaway plot at the time) about to be used more effectively in Caz having leverage over her.
There have been other more subtle examples: Roy and Cathy's sleeping arrangements being highlighted recently was a realistic touch, as Roy was always going to struggle with intimacy of that nature so soon after Hayley's death. We also had that quietly powerful scene of him just lying silently on the bed that he and Hayley shared and reflecting upon his relationship. I really do hope this is Oates building towards Roy actually being unable to commit to Cathy and the relationship coming to an end. Sarah is now more like the Sarah we all knew and loved at the height of Corrie's golden years. Even Kevin's anger with David, albeit very unpleasant to watch, was very in keeping with the fiery tempered and fiercely protective family man he's been for so many years now. long & to go back & revisit her storylines that were never properly resolved at the time is very clever & also necessary to move her forward as a character!! If she can apply the same touch to all the characters ( Gail is another she's very obviously already worked on) then we are in for a vastly improved 3 years on the show!! |
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Kate Oates
Is anyone ever impressed with a new producer?
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Is anyone ever impressed with a new producer?
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Whilst watching tonight's very disappointing double-bill, Alya's character development really struck me. It's refreshing to see an ambitious university graduate on the Street, but are they writing the character into a corner? With her blackmail of Sharif also expected to come to light next week, can the character be redeemed? Her family will be disgusted with her actions- even the pointless Rana will probably shun her, Sinead has already called quits on their friendship and there's no hope of any reconciliation with Gary. What will be left for her? Surely Oates is looking at characters like her and Izzy and considering their position on the show?
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Whilst watching tonight's very disappointing double-bill, Alya's character development really struck me. It's refreshing to see an ambitious university graduate on the Street, but are they writing the character into a corner? With her blackmail of Sharif also expected to come to light next week, can the character be redeemed? Her family will be disgusted with her actions- even the pointless Rana will probably shun her, Sinead has already called quits on their friendship and there's no hope of any reconciliation with Gary. What will be left for her? Surely Oates is looking at characters like her and Izzy and considering their position on the show?
I would actually rather see a character like Craig or the more rounded Bethany show some ambition & follow a realistic dream!! Regarding the designs I wish they hadn't made her cut Sinead out of the deal as I think they would have made a good partnership & it would have given Sinead a purpose on the show which she is lacking a bit at the moment (I do like Sinead by the way) & Sinead could have been the calming influence when Alya's attitude started to upset people!! |
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Sadly, whilst I agree about it being nice to see a youngster trying to make something of herself, I find the character unpleasant which is kind of defeating the object!!
I would actually rather see a character like Craig or the more rounded Bethany show some ambition & follow a realistic dream!! Regarding the designs I wish they hadn't made her cut Sinead out of the deal as I think they would have made a good partnership & it would have given Sinead a purpose on the show which she is lacking a bit at the moment (I do like Sinead by the way) & Sinead could have been the calming influence when Alya's attitude started to upset people!! |
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I agree. They do need to start injecting some ambition into the younger cast so Craig becoming an actual copper, or Bethany studying to be a nurse going off to college making new friends and actually achieving spmething. I know these career prospects are hardly setting the world on fire but they could do a vocations do still live in the street. Especially with the shift patterns of those vocations.
The poll makes for interesting reading. Whilst it's still not promising that less than a fifth of you love what Oates is doing, it's interesting to see that the amount of people not liking her work at all has dropped to less than 47%. That figure was actually close to 58% only a couple of weeks back. It's been quite curious to see Oates not introduce any new characters just yet- apart from Vinny and Sonia, who are just guest stars. In interviews she has said that she's going to be introducing two new characters, one with a link to an existing character and the other one doesn't, but that's all the information that she's provided so far. It seems that she's really looking at all the existing cast and is perhaps now making decisions on who's working and who isn't. |
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What do you all make of this latest storyline? For me, it seems a retcon too far- although it's not as I we haven't seen a fair share throughout the years. On the other hand, I'm really liking the sound of Bethany's new story. |
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What do you all make of this latest storyline? For me, it seems a retcon too far- although it's not as I we haven't seen a fair share throughout the years. On the other hand, I'm really liking the sound of Bethany's new story. I'm most looking forward to Adam and Daniel, the latter in particular I have high hopes for. Around this time we should have a clearer picture of how Kate Oates' Corrie is really going to look. I feel like she's just getting started and the old stuff is still there. |
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What do you all make of this latest storyline? For me, it seems a retcon too far- although it's not as I we haven't seen a fair share throughout the years. On the other hand, I'm really liking the sound of Bethany's new story. ![]() That's a ridiculous retcon ![]()
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Wasn't she a virgin
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The Platts have been terrific viewing over the past number of months: Sarah's breakdown, Kylie's murder, David's vendetta, Bethany's self esteem issues, Gail being a strong matriarch once again. Even Nick has been more tolerable of late, apart from those cringeworthy scenes a while back when he took Steve out for a drive and threatened him.😠
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