Originally Posted by Sarn:
“ROFLMAO @ ahoyy getting wound up
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
“ROFLMAO @ ahoyy getting wound up
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
ha ha, BOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ship ahoyy sailing away
Bear a sociopath?
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You can't really diagnose people just because you're upset with them on a reality TV show
But I did a few years of psychology, and Bear is probably fairly high up the narcissistic scale (but then that's about 90% of BB contestants, and almost an entry requirement for both versions of the show now)
Renee has more classic sociopath behaviours - including fantasising about and threatening to inflict violence - but wouldn't be criminally high, as she's too emotional, so may be closer to Borderline personality ... Aubrey would tick quite a few sociopath boxes, maybe even higher than Renee, and interesting she's fairly socially isolated (talking about Christmases alone with her dogs), aggressive narcissism, limited affect, possibly faked all her emotions ... Aubrey would be the most likely
But I did a few years of psychology, and Bear is probably fairly high up the narcissistic scale (but then that's about 90% of BB contestants, and almost an entry requirement for both versions of the show now)
Renee has more classic sociopath behaviours - including fantasising about and threatening to inflict violence - but wouldn't be criminally high, as she's too emotional, so may be closer to Borderline personality ... Aubrey would tick quite a few sociopath boxes, maybe even higher than Renee, and interesting she's fairly socially isolated (talking about Christmases alone with her dogs), aggressive narcissism, limited affect, possibly faked all her emotions ... Aubrey would be the most likely
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Originally Posted by Sandra_Bainbrid:
“I agree and thought an act on BB and benefit of the doubt but the interview was not nice to watch. I have been on the receiving end of a socipath and not nice. The jury is out but the interview with Emma was not nice. Never wrong and will never admit. Even Renee called him a socipath and she knows one. Hopefully Bear will turn out nice and make us all look fools[/QUOTEt
The may play games with people And pretend that have changed
but thy never change thy are what thy are but you will no the s having nag been on the receving end I myself have been on the receiving end for meny years, I learned to spot them a mile of It can get very dark but it's now a blessing to be able to move on as I am sure you will get nerd and”
“I agree and thought an act on BB and benefit of the doubt but the interview was not nice to watch. I have been on the receiving end of a socipath and not nice. The jury is out but the interview with Emma was not nice. Never wrong and will never admit. Even Renee called him a socipath and she knows one. Hopefully Bear will turn out nice and make us all look fools[/QUOTEt
The may play games with people And pretend that have changed
but thy never change thy are what thy are but you will no the s having nag been on the receving end I myself have been on the receiving end for meny years, I learned to spot them a mile of It can get very dark but it's now a blessing to be able to move on as I am sure you will get nerd and”
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“You can't really diagnose people just because you're upset with them on a reality TV show
But I did a few years of psychology, and Bear is probably fairly high up the narcissistic scale (but then that's about 90% of BB contestants, and almost an entry requirement for both versions of the show now)
Renee has more classic sociopath behaviours - including fantasising about and threatening to inflict violence - but wouldn't be criminally high, as she's too emotional, so may be closer to Borderline personality ... Aubrey would tick quite a few sociopath boxes, maybe even higher than Renee, and interesting she's fairly socially isolated (talking about Christmases alone with her dogs), aggressive narcissism, limited affect, possibly faked all her emotions ... Aubrey would be the most likely”
“You can't really diagnose people just because you're upset with them on a reality TV show
But I did a few years of psychology, and Bear is probably fairly high up the narcissistic scale (but then that's about 90% of BB contestants, and almost an entry requirement for both versions of the show now)
Renee has more classic sociopath behaviours - including fantasising about and threatening to inflict violence - but wouldn't be criminally high, as she's too emotional, so may be closer to Borderline personality ... Aubrey would tick quite a few sociopath boxes, maybe even higher than Renee, and interesting she's fairly socially isolated (talking about Christmases alone with her dogs), aggressive narcissism, limited affect, possibly faked all her emotions ... Aubrey would be the most likely”
I can see that.
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I know we trot that word out a lot on here, but ive felt it all along. That interview was classic, socipathic behaviour. Manipulative in the extreme and unable to answer any question. The late Jimmy Savile was exactly the same when interviewed, and yes I'm serious.”
“I know we trot that word out a lot on here, but ive felt it all along. That interview was classic, socipathic behaviour. Manipulative in the extreme and unable to answer any question. The late Jimmy Savile was exactly the same when interviewed, and yes I'm serious.”
Didn't a housemate describe him as a sociopath a couple of days ago?
I can't remember who said it though.
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Well there's no such thing as a 'psychiatrty' degree. There is such a thing as an alert button, to draw attention to posters who abuse other forum members and use offensive terminology like 'mong' though
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“Well there's no such thing as a 'psychiatrty' degree. There is such a thing as an alert button, to draw attention to posters who abuse other forum members and use offensive terminology like 'mong' though
”
I know all this name calling at other fms is so immature, its so constant now.
It really reflects the age of posters......haters, morons, idiots, mongs etc
What's wrong with disagreeing without personal tirades?????
I'm guessing he has adhd, that or he's a little erm sorry slow. His need for attention comes from him either being the baby out of a few kids, typical lads banter/women are meat
...brothers I'm guessing or he's had a bad male/father role model. But no doubt is actually like him and his mum gives in and caters to him for an easier life. Sadly this need for attention will only be conditioned now people have allowed him to win BB, he will play up to it and crave it even more.
What I do worry with bear is that conditioning this behaviour and performance he puts on will end up actually ruining him, it'll feed the monster so to speak and that attention will have a shelf life and hell not cope after his 15 mins. Someone will either deck him or hell go towards other highs. It's sad really.
The only thing that stands out as questionable is his lack of empathy and emotions at Times, he really doesn't see that his behaviour is negativity and that he really pushes ppl to breaking point, even his mother looks poorly.
How does Bear fit this part of the definition of sociopathy? He wasn't a loner - it was important to him to be part of the squad and then he needed Marnie. In his private life, he goes out and about with a gang of people. Aged 26, he has no criminal record at all.
'Antisocial: The definition of a sociopath centers on this concept. This person stands apart from the rest of society; he exists for himself and only for himself. He cares nothing for the norms, rules, and laws of society. Accordingly, a sociopath has a history of juvenile delinquency and likely has a criminal record in adulthood.'
'Antisocial: The definition of a sociopath centers on this concept. This person stands apart from the rest of society; he exists for himself and only for himself. He cares nothing for the norms, rules, and laws of society. Accordingly, a sociopath has a history of juvenile delinquency and likely has a criminal record in adulthood.'
Originally Posted by Sandra_Bainbrid:
“Oh I could write a book about the B..trd and not nice reading. fist pump
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“Oh I could write a book about the B..trd and not nice reading. fist pump
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Originally Posted by xuryxx:
“My mum likes intelligent people so unfortunately Bore or you wouldn't appeal to her. Anyway, Bear prefers the boys and I hear you prefer animals so how would that work?”
“My mum likes intelligent people so unfortunately Bore or you wouldn't appeal to her. Anyway, Bear prefers the boys and I hear you prefer animals so how would that work?”
Originally Posted by Robinson1:
“Wohooh. It's not a mental health issue but rather a personality disorder which is 9 times out of ten incurable.They are expert at crocodile tears and feigning emotion. They mirror their peers and the tears flow easily. Believe you me. I won't go into detail but they are bloody dangerous and I almost lost my life because of a sociopath. He made me laugh and no-one has ever made me that happy before or after with his clowning and loving bits. I am now celibate because of the emotional trauma of the loveable clown that destroyed me.”
“Wohooh. It's not a mental health issue but rather a personality disorder which is 9 times out of ten incurable.They are expert at crocodile tears and feigning emotion. They mirror their peers and the tears flow easily. Believe you me. I won't go into detail but they are bloody dangerous and I almost lost my life because of a sociopath. He made me laugh and no-one has ever made me that happy before or after with his clowning and loving bits. I am now celibate because of the emotional trauma of the loveable clown that destroyed me.”
Robinson, oh yes can cry like babies and can put on the charm. Oh the hero card is a good one also. Compulsive liars and believe their lies. Will not listen and want to talk about themselves all the time and talk over you and always about themselves. Joking and make you laugh and others. Never their fault and will argue forever and not speak and then suddenly will but then blame you and anyone but themselves. Up too late
Originally Posted by Sandra_Bainbrid:
“Robinson, oh yes can cry like babies and can put on the charm. Oh the hero card is a good one also. Compulsive liars and believe their lies. Will not listen and want to talk about themselves all the time and talk over you and always about themselves. Joking and make you laugh and others. Never their fault and will argue forever and not speak and then suddenly will but then blame you and anyone but themselves. Up too late”
“Robinson, oh yes can cry like babies and can put on the charm. Oh the hero card is a good one also. Compulsive liars and believe their lies. Will not listen and want to talk about themselves all the time and talk over you and always about themselves. Joking and make you laugh and others. Never their fault and will argue forever and not speak and then suddenly will but then blame you and anyone but themselves. Up too late
”
Oh my word - you are me xxx sadly xxxx
But on the upside you are an empath which is a gift. Don't tell me you are rhesus negative
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“How does Bear fit this part of the definition of sociopathy? He wasn't a loner - it was important to him to be part of the squad and then he needed Marnie. In his private life, he goes out and about with a gang of people. Aged 26, he has no criminal record at all.
'Antisocial: The definition of a sociopath centers on this concept. This person stands apart from the rest of society; he exists for himself and only for himself. He cares nothing for the norms, rules, and laws of society. Accordingly, a sociopath has a history of juvenile delinquency and likely has a criminal record in adulthood.'”
“How does Bear fit this part of the definition of sociopathy? He wasn't a loner - it was important to him to be part of the squad and then he needed Marnie. In his private life, he goes out and about with a gang of people. Aged 26, he has no criminal record at all.
'Antisocial: The definition of a sociopath centers on this concept. This person stands apart from the rest of society; he exists for himself and only for himself. He cares nothing for the norms, rules, and laws of society. Accordingly, a sociopath has a history of juvenile delinquency and likely has a criminal record in adulthood.'”
What does having a criminal record have to do with being a sociopath?
Lots of people can be loners but still have social contact with groups of people. I don't think being a loner necessarily means that somebody is lonely.
I'm not saying that he is a sociopath, but he does seem to tick quite a few boxes which might suggest that he does have some sociopathic tendencies.
Even though he was in a social group in the house it doesn't mean he was emotionally close with them. At one point he was telling Chloe how Lewis can't be trusted.
And after that episode of BOTS I'm not convinced that he has any particular loyalties to Chloe either. He does seem to use people for his own ends. Like people are things to be used by manipulating their emotions to get what he wants.
Something else to consider. He doesn't appear to be able to look inward on himself and be self-critical. Which is a narcissistic trait. He went into the house claiming that he's 'all right' and he literally said that the crowd reaction is evidence that he's 'all right'. He thinks that a crowd of strangers being entertained by him on an artificial TV show validates him as a person. Make of that what you will.
I think he is the first housemate that has not shown his true self in the house at some point. So it that sense yes he is a sociopath for not breaking down in that environment. Clear lack of compassion and feeling for his fellow housemates but don't think the real Stephen is anywhere near as bad as he would like us to believe.
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