I can't believe that people are basing people's intelligence based on who they wanted to win... and these "uni degree" digs are embarrassing from some members.

He won, that's it. There's no need to insult members who liked him.

Well we know that BB does attract a lot of chavs and slightly shall we say less intelligent breed of human.
I mean on my Facebook feed, of those who watch BB and posted about it, it was pretty much the chavviest of my friends calling for Bear to win. One of them doesn't even know the father of her child ffs.
However the public voted him the winner and that's the end of it. I find those calling it a ''fix'' whenever the result does not go their way to also be lacking in the brains department .

Since when did having a university degree make one intelligent?

These forums are always this busy when BB is on air. So he's hardly unique in the aspect.

I agree with you. I don't think this has much to do with level of education (although, I must admit that a good percentage of Bear's supporters have horrid grammar and spelling....just an observation). It's really all about having a sense of decency, self-awareness, and YES, class. Bear and his z-list reality show bunch had none. They reek of desperation as well. I am not worried about the Americans (they have full lives and careers apart from this show, and by no stretch of the imagination are they hard up for cash). Bear, on the other hand...I hope he invests wisely. I think he's a one trick pony so his act will get old VERY fast (it already did for me).

I guess he had paved the way for future contestants. Behave badly, get all the air time, be a bully, spoil the experience for the others, the producers will love you and you will win.
The producers should all be sacked, they have been disgraceful with their puppet.

Well said.


That's just it though, it wasn't for fun and entertainment. It was purposely to get at Aubrey.

He didn't do it to Marnie as he knew she would've just laughed it off, which wasn't what he wanted. He done it to Aubrey as he wanted to piss her off.

My opinion anyway.

Mm - I get the point but not everyone analyses something before they laugh at it. The poster that I'm addressing says that they find it genuinely worrying if someone finds him entertaining, with others agreeing with this superior sentiment.

And I don't believe that fun didn't come into it in Bear's mind. Of course he chose his victim as the one least likely to take it well, due to her vanity and taking herself so seriously, but the ensuing chase was funny too. Other's don't agree - fair enough. We're all different.

It's really the snotty tone of the responses to people who are stupid enough (after all, that's what this thread is about) to laugh at Bear that get on my wick, as if it is somehow more worthy not to find him funny.

They are just embarrassing themselves and in some cases are as bad or worse as the person they dislike so much.

I clearly said it's NOT about stupidity. It's a different trait of characteristics altogether that allows someone to find an individual wrecking others' experience and setting out to distress them, funny.

I take it that applies to the bear fans that are clearly insulting people too?

Let's not pretend there's no bear fans on the wind up here in line with their chosen one

Spot on.

Not sure I agree with the OP as there are plenty of stupid people at university these days.

However there's a nasty underbelly in our society these days that celebrates moronic and bullying behaviour.

It's not just a social disease here in the UK. You just need to look at what's happening in the USA right now to see the baying and abusive hillbillies supporting Donald Trump.

It's really sad that after a month of inspirational, heroics by Team GB in Rio there are some people celebrating an immature little bully like Stephen Bear.

Big Brother may be viewed by some as a silly TV show but over the years it's been a true reflection of the degeneration of our society.

Without a doubt, I mentioned Bear fans doing it on another post somewhere.

I didn't like the 'If you like Bear then you must be the same as him' posts.

For example....People liked Aubrey, doe's it mean they like spitting in peoples food and drink?

Yeah I see your point and it's a fair one.

Apart from making some bold assumptions I agree. Firstly though I did not vote for Bear, but did for Helen Wood. Please do not confuse the two. Helen is damaged goods, Bear is an irritating gnat.

This is the kind of people who voted for Bear;

Driving home today along a busy road, two fire engines and a serious incident tender passed me. Obviously there had been an accident on the motorway and they were on their way to attend.

I pulled over as did everyone else. The car in front refused to and the young punk just sat there and folded his arms. Those around just shook our heads, and at one point I thought the chap in the car next to me was going to get out and belt him. Eventually the traffic on the other side made way and the fire crew got through.

I can imagine the idiot saying "it's only a laugh, get over it, no harm done". I wonder what he would have been thinking if he was trapped in his car waiting for the rescue crew to turn up!

Those are the kind of people that ran up huge phone bills voting for Bear. Low life's.

No its not. Bear had ample opportunity and many warnings and never changed. Don't confuse one bit of bad behaviour with four weeks of it.

Oh and I 'm sorry but some of his supporters are undoubtedly like him, or see him as a role model.

I agree with this.

I'm wary of making judgements about people or their fans and I still haven't worked out if Bear is genuinely like that, if it was an act for the show or if he actually has some kind of personality or mental disorder over which he has no control. At this point i think I'm beyond caring.

All i know, is that his actions resulted in most of the housemates being wound up, upset, anxious, stressed and depressed at least some, if not most of the time. And he delighted in it.

That, to me is not a nice person (whether his 'true' personality or not) and if he didn't realise how his behaviour was hurting people he either has no empathy and if he did, he's a sadist.

Sadism is not something I find entertaining to watch and certainly not something I find admirable - ie if it has been an act, he might have been clever to think of it and done well to keep it up for 4 weeks but it was calculated to cause people pain.

As it is not something I enjoy watching, and just feel sorry for those he's affected, I guess i find it hard to understand anybody that has enjoyed it as, to me, they are enjoying seeing somebody inflict emotional pain.

I have heard, and do understand those that state they don't approve of him, they wouldn't want to know him in real life but enjoy watching him in a tv show. But to me, those were still real people he was winding up, sometimes to the point of torture in my opinion. Yes of course they could have walked and forfeited their fees but they shouldn't have to.

It's probably more to do with me as a person. I've never found practical jokes particularly funny, and I detest those that make other people the butt of their jokes and then pass it off as banter and it being the other persons fault if they get upset as they "can't take a joke". . It's only banter if it is two ways, otherwise it is victimization and funny only to the attacker and anybody in their gang or 'squad'.

I wouldn't be friends with somebody that enjoys that behavior in real life (and I imagine they wouldn't want to be friends with me anyway) and I doubt i'd want to be friends with anybody that has enjoyed watching it. Indeed, I know, of my friends that do still watch it, they universally despise Bear.

I don't know if it is education, intelligence, class, empathy but my 'type' of person that i become friends with is completely different to Bear and the people in the House that found him funny or defended him.

I have been a member for many years but rarely post a view or thought as the verbal war between some forum members is childish and pedantic.

We are all different, all with different views and we all should be able to say our thoughts without being blasted to kingdom come by others that do not agree with us. Bear is like Marmite, like him or hate him, the show would be been completely different and yes in my view a lot more boring without him.

I wanted him to win as I believe that he did earn his win, despite him being an idiot wind up merchant at times. There were many times I could of willingly slapped him with a wet rotting fish and wanted him to shut the heck up, but that said, he does have good qualities.

He could of easily had Aubrey removed for gobbing in his sandwich and drink, but he didn't. The same goes for Renee with her threats of 'being got rid of' by her contacts, Alexander O'Neal was removed for less.

I do think that someone needs to have a word in his ear as he really should calm down for interviews, perhaps he can't who knows. I personally think he has ADD but as a trained mental health nurse, i know that its not my place to say either way.

On that note, I still believe he is a worthy winner and as I don my hard hat and get myself into a bunker before the onslaught of insults come flying my way. Oh and just in case anyone is wondering, I am an educated, trained Mental Health Nurse and not young. My motto is live and let live, life is too short for negativity, eaks I sound like Stephen Bear

Nope - you are wrong.

It's just a different sense of humour.

It was a pie in the face.

Stop over-analysing.

Humour is subjective.

I don't think it's about intelligence or stupidity. It's more about social attitudes to 'bad behaviour' and what is deemed funny/entertaining or just plain unacceptable. Let's face it there many scripted reality shows now that actually pay their so called 'stars' to behave in an anti social manner. Now these people are appearing on CBB and doing what's expected of them. What annoys me more than anything is that this CBB was so biased in favour of Bear - they did everything they could to make him winner and there were enough people who thought ASBO behaviour was 'entertaining' to give him the win. I didn't even bother voting because it seemed like a set up for weeks.

we are all ****ing stupid for watching this shit

You gotta love the sore losers, always resort to petty bitterness every season lol ..wow, so sad to bad.....

Now this is the truth

Agreed.

It's just a different perception on what is funny mischief making which is entertaining and harmless and what is anti social and cruel.

It doesn't make people with differing attitudes to that 'right' or 'wrong' or 'good' or 'bad' it's just different limits.

As I imtimated earlier, i think that somebody continuing to behave in a way that they know somebody else finds upsetting although they find it funny is cruel. It is not their place to decide that the other person needs to 'lighten up' and that their reaction is 'wrong'. After offence has been caused once, then if you care at all, just stop playing your jokes on them and limit them to the people within your group that share your sense of humour.

As somebody else said, Bear wouldn't have pied Marnie in the face because she would have found it funny and it is the reaction that he derides pleasure from. He knew Aubrey had just spent ages doing her hair and make up prior to the live eviction show so getting a pie in the face would upset her - that is what he found enjoyable about it. He was deriding enjoyment from what he knew would be her negative reaction to it.

That to me is not funny, it is unacceptable.

But i accept that everybody's boundaries are different.

Just for balance, I will also point out that I found Aubrey spitting in the sandwich unacceptable behaviour as well although i understood how wound up she must have been by Bear, Heavy and that task to do something so horrible.

I'm not talking about loathsome bear I'm talking about people being obnoxious on the forum