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Old 27-08-2016, 20:50
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Gaahh .. i've done it again. I keep forgetting that everything is a lie unless DS says so.
Why are you spitting the dummy out?
You posted a link to a story that most people, quite rightly, think is a lot of rubbish.
Nobody is having a go at you, they're simply indicating that the man's claims sound like a load of pish.
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Old 27-08-2016, 21:41
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Why are you spitting the dummy out?.
Why are you taking what i posted very, very seriously ? *stern face*

But hey ho, if thinking i'm "spitting the dummy out" or "throwing my toys out of the pram" gives you a nice warm feeling of superiority then go right ahead, and make sure to duck when the action man whizzes past your ear

I was gonna post something similar but you beat me to it! Nobody can live to 145, It's simply not possible yet, unless the guy is an Alien or something.
Wow, I didn't realise you were a renowned geneticist ..
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Old 27-08-2016, 21:47
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Why are you taking what i posted very, very seriously ? *stern face*

But hey ho, if thinking i'm "spitting the dummy out" or "throwing my toys out of the pram" gives you a nice warm feeling of superiority then go right ahead, and make sure to duck when the action man whizzes past your ear
For heaven's sake, what is the matter with you? Why such an over the top response to a simple question?
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Old 27-08-2016, 21:56
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For heaven's sake, what is the matter with you? Why such an over the top response to a simple question?
"Why are you spitting the dummy out?" isn't something I consider a question. It's a rather smug, accusatory statement from someone clearly lost in their own self importance, so i'll treat such a statement with all the gravity it deserves.
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Old 27-08-2016, 23:12
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Brian Appleyard * has said that the first person to live for a thousand years has already been born

* not quite as authoritative as I thought he was (like not Professor Brian Appleyard)
Futurologists eh. 1000 years no problem, 10 years I'll get back to you. I'll confidently predict anything that happens after I'm dead
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Old 28-08-2016, 00:48
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Can't they just cut the top of his head off and count the rings?
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Old 28-08-2016, 08:29
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Exactly, for some - conspiracy theorists.

For normal people, it may sound credible that Simon Cowell secretly dyes his hair whilst labelling the claim by a Nigerian that he is 171-years-old as hokum.

What's wrong with that? It's what used to be called common sense in the pre-millennial era.
Nothing wrong with being sceptical, but there should not be an automatic assumption that simply because a given statement sounds unlikely, it didn't happen.

In my case, the accusations of lying accompanied anecdotal threads involving perfectly credible everyday situations. Not everyone on the thread, obviously. But you can guarantee there will always be at least one who says "I'm calling bullshit on this", which, when you know damn well it's hard fact, is incredibly irritating.
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Old 28-08-2016, 08:50
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Why are you taking what i posted very, very seriously ? *stern face*

But hey ho, if thinking i'm "spitting the dummy out" or "throwing my toys out of the pram" gives you a nice warm feeling of superiority then go right ahead, and make sure to duck when the action man whizzes past your ear



Wow, I didn't realise you were a renowned geneticist ..
Don't need to be to know men cannot live to 145.
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Old 28-08-2016, 09:04
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Don't need to be to know men cannot live to 145. You have a rather unpleasant attitude.
How do you know? You don't, is the answer.

If you take another species, a cat for example. The average lifespan for a cat is 15 to 17 years - link


The record age for a cat is 38 - link

Creme Puff (cat) Creme Puff (August 3, 1967 – August 6, 2005) was an American cat who died aged 38 years and 3 days (or 168 cat years). She was the oldest cat ever recorded, according to the 2010 edition of Guinness World Records. Creme Puff lived with her owner, Jake Perry, in Austin, Texas.
Which is more than twice the average, and 168 by human standards.

If that can happen with one animal species, it follows that it can happen with another.

Admittedly, such instances will be exceedingly rare, but with a world population of however many billion it is, you simply cannot rule out the possibility of a given individual living to an exceptional age.
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Old 28-08-2016, 09:16
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when he dies, they can saw his leg off and count the rings
The first rule of trying a comedy answer is to check to see if someone else hasn't gotten there first ..

Can't they just cut the top of his head off and count the rings?
Don't need to be to know men cannot live to 145.
Rapid edit aside, as blueblade has said, how do you know ?

Can you provide even some cursory evidence to back up your claim or is it a case of men can't live to 145 because you have said so ?

According to Wikipedia, in 2013 it was estimated that there were more than 100 uncontacted tribes around the world. Can you definitively say that not one person in any of these tribes has lived a longer life ?.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples
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Old 28-08-2016, 11:48
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Old 28-08-2016, 13:11
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Remember 20 years ago when the record breaking Jeane Calment was still alive in her 120s? Well even she was not born until 1875 compared to supposed 1870 of this guy, were there many articles and photos of him back then to rubbish her oldest ever claims if she was not even oldest alive then by some 4 or 5 years?
At that time I would have thought all with older claims would have disputed it? It would be nice to believe but anyone over 120 needs a lot of evidence. Since Jeane nobody has proven to reach 120 again.
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Old 28-08-2016, 13:14
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RIP Creme Puff.
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Old 28-08-2016, 14:46
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I'd wager that's not his birth certificate - it looks more like some kind of official ID card.
I'll go one further and bet it's his dads or a relatives papers and there's some fraud involved.
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Old 28-08-2016, 15:04
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Unreal - born in 1870 apparently. His documents have been verified in Indonesia, but not yet independently apparently. I guess if that happens then he will beat the record for the oldest person in the world by a considerable margin.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...st-man-8713222
Unreal in the western world, where people eat processed crap and think excersize is the occasional visit to depressing gyms.
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Old 28-08-2016, 15:30
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Unreal in the western world, where people eat processed crap and think excersize is the occasional visit to depressing gyms.
Even more unreal in a country where average life expectancy is 70.
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Old 28-08-2016, 16:51
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How do you know? You don't, is the answer.

If you take another species, a cat for example. The average lifespan for a cat is 15 to 17 years - link


The record age for a cat is 38 - link



Which is more than twice the average, and 168 by human standards.

If that can happen with one animal species, it follows that it can happen with another.

Admittedly, such instances will be exceedingly rare, but with a world population of however many billion it is, you simply cannot rule out the possibility of a given individual living to an exceptional age.
You can't equate feline years to human years so simply. It doesn't work like that. They are mature by the age of one, able to reproduce by around 9 months. Their life span works differently so the comparison is meaningless.
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Old 28-08-2016, 17:28
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Unreal in the western world, where people eat processed crap and think excersize is the occasional visit to depressing gyms.
Malaysian life expectancy is 74.8 years. In the UK it's 81.5 years.

This guy is 145 as surely as I'm Napoleon Bonaparte in a Mankini riding a pantomime horse containing Christopher Biggins and Sid James in the Grand National.
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Old 28-08-2016, 19:15
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You can't equate feline years to human years so simply. It doesn't work like that. They are mature by the age of one, able to reproduce by around 9 months. Their life span works differently so the comparison is meaningless.
It's a statement of fact that their average lifespan is 15 to 17, and the one I highlighted lived to 38, more than double the average. If it can happen in one species, then it can happen in another.

It's a perfectly valid comparison.
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Old 28-08-2016, 19:21
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This guy is 145 as surely as I'm Napoleon Bonaparte in a Mankini riding a pantomime horse containing Christopher Biggins and Sid James in the Grand National.


Pretty much sums it up, though.
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Old 28-08-2016, 22:33
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Remember 20 years ago when the record breaking Jeane Calment was still alive in her 120s? Well even she was not born until 1875 compared to supposed 1870 of this guy, were there many articles and photos of him back then to rubbish her oldest ever claims if she was not even oldest alive then by some 4 or 5 years?
At that time I would have thought all with older claims would have disputed it? It would be nice to believe but anyone over 120 needs a lot of evidence. Since Jeane nobody has proven to reach 120 again.
That's right, the second oldest-ever person verified was Sarah Knauss, an American who reached 119 years 97 days. Jeanne Calment was 122 years 164 days. Further, they are the only two people to have reached 118, as the third person on the list, another American named Lucy Hannah, died aged 117 years 248 days.

Or, depending on your belief, the three oldest ever people are Methuselah (969), Noah (950) and Adam (930).........
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Old 28-08-2016, 22:43
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That's right, the second oldest-ever person verified was Sarah Knauss, an American who reached 119 years 97 days. Jeanne Calment was 122 years 164 days. Further, they are the only two people to have reached 118, as the third person on the list, another American named Lucy Hannah, died aged 117 years 248 days.

Or, depending on your belief, the three oldest ever people are Methuselah (969), Noah (950) and Adam (930).........
For many years Shigechiyo Izumi was allegedly the oldest man who ever lived having "died" at 120 years 237 days on February 21 1986. Years ago I met a genealogist who doubted this claim and proved to be correct.

The same person doubted the claim of Jeanne Calment to be the longest living human.
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Old 28-08-2016, 23:03
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On the current list there seem to be quite a few people in Japan who are still living, at 116 or so, Emma Morano of Italy is still alive at 116 years, 273 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._oldest_people
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Old 28-08-2016, 23:16
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On the current list there seem to be quite a few people in Japan who are still living, at 116 or so, Emma Morano of Italy is still alive at 116 years, 273 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._oldest_people
Emma Morano is the only person living born before 1900

Remarkable that only two people have seen a 118th birthday
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Old 28-08-2016, 23:46
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When I read this story I instantly thought of the final lines of 'The Green Mile'.

I lie in bed most nights, thinking about it. And I wait. I think about all the people I've loved, now long gone. I think about my beautiful Jan, and how I lost her so many years ago. I think about all of us walking our own Green Mile, each in our own time. But one thought, more than any other, keeps me awake most nights. If he could make a mouse live so long, how much longer do I have? We each owe a death, there are no exceptions, but sometimes, oh God, the Green Mile is so long.
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