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Emmerdale is becoming unwatchable...
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Andybear
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by nats18:
“I never got why they even had to look for her why when she ran into the cafe did noone go hold on and just call zak or lisa?
Nah they watched her have a breakdown then thought ye you know what just off you go love. I don't think I missed an ep but at the very end of one she was rocking back and forward on the floor while they had the mother/toddler group then the start of the next she'd gone
I don't get invested in couples anymore in ED. Jimmy and Nicola are a great couple but it's painfully obvious their going down the affair route.”

Re: Belle - I think you missed part of an episode at least because someone did ring them straight away and they came and took her home. After a while she said she wanted to go to bed and went up to her room. Of course no-one had the sense to go with her, with her mental state the way it is, and she disappeared after that.
Glendarroch
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Deschanel:
“For her imaginary bully to have convinced her to fake a pregnancy would mean that Belle would have had to have stopped taking her meds before, either completely or just missing doses. Why would she do that? Sure, loads of women have faked a pregnancy to hold on to a guy, but usually the contexts are different and there is clear direction of how it enhances the storyline. This didn't really have that. Maybe it's just poor writing. It would make sense if the baby lie was born out of her not taking her meds, but that aspect has not been addressed, and it makes no sense for her to have stopped before hand. We don't know if Belle even went to her psychiatrist. Why would she? She knows the baby was a lie, so she wouldn't need to go to the psychiatrist, unless Ellie told her to?

They have ignored the main point of the story, and that is Belle's motivation for coming off her meds. They should have been clear about her missing doses due to the stress of the lie, for example, or maybe because she forgot to pick up her prescription. I just feel that this isn't a very positive representation of someone with a mental health condition dealing with stressful situations in the right way. She should understand the importance of not skipping a dose. Neighbours has many faults, but I can't fault how they never forget about Steph being on meds and how important that is.

Homelessness and mental health are a serious issue, and I can see what ED are trying to say with this story, but I feel like the writing isn't strong enough to support it. For whatever reason, the storyline isn't engaging me.”

Not necessarily, the meds might not have been working as well as they should, but that's s just me hypothesising.

She's s taking less because less will be available to her now her psychiatrist thinks she is pregnant. Ok if she was thinking clearly she could have lied about going to the GP and psychiatrist, but the point is that she was panicking and desperate to keep her boyfriend. You may not take any risk with your meds - neither do I- but some people do. You can't t generalise about stuff like that. She would have done anything to maintain the illusion she was pregnant and that includes accepting a reduced lebel of medication. The more stressed about it she became, the less she could see her way clear to doing the sensible thing.She was backed into that corner by her own lie. Does she have to be representative of people with mental health problems? I think it's s quite true to her fairly immature character.
Glendarroch
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I remember when Rakesh was told that the insurance company wouldn't pay out for the fire he said 'I have a son' and the insurance man said something like, 'so does the woman who is paralysed as a result of the fire'. That said it all really and I agree she, Jimmy and Ronnie need compensating. I really hope that Pryia finds out soon that Rakesh stole the money from the bank account as I agree, him doing everything to cover his track is getting boring now.”

I don't t think Nicole deserves any compensation. Call me harsh but she shouldn't have been there!!!!
BBKINGREALITY
30-08-2016
I'm really struggling to get through an episode, it's absolutely dreadful. The writing is garbage, there's no depth or anything remotely relatable. They need to reduce the number of episodes because the quality doesn't justify our time. Tuesday's 1 hour specials are an absolute chore with this garbage producer in charge. He's like Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool, talks a good game but ultimately out of his depth.
Ben96
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“I'm really struggling to get through an episode, it's absolutely dreadful. The writing is garbage, there's no depth or anything remotely relatable. They need to reduce the number of episodes because the quality doesn't justify our time. Tuesday's 1 hour specials are an absolute chore with this garbage producer in charge. He's like Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool, talks a good game but ultimately out of his depth.”

I thought tonight's was a decent episode. If want to see "dreadful" episodes with "garbage" writing watch tonight's episodes of Corrie. Also, this week is the last hour long Tuesday, back to 30 minutes next week.
Drew_Hatch
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Sun Glasses Ron:
“TBH I think with the exception of Doctors

The 3 main soaps have become Crossroads/Dallas type shows

Remember them?

It fills the schdules with cheap quality & people watch out of habit rather than for entertainment”

I wouldn't argue with that statement except I'd be including Hollyoaks in that list of bad quality padded fluff as well.
mushymanrob
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“I'm really struggling to get through an episode, it's absolutely dreadful. The writing is garbage, there's no depth or anything remotely relatable. They need to reduce the number of episodes because the quality doesn't justify our time. Tuesday's 1 hour specials are an absolute chore with this garbage producer in charge. He's like Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool, talks a good game but ultimately out of his depth.”

im in broad agreement with you..
Cheekymonkey09
30-08-2016
I'm baffled as to why some think ED is unwatchable yet watch Corrie

The standard IMO is more or less the same as last year. The episodes never feel like a chore to me and I always look forward to watching an episode after work.

There is a lot of depth going on the show currently, storylines are still intertwined and slow burners from months back are coming to the forefront. I love that there is continuity within the show and past stories are never forgotten or always come back (Belle mental health, Holly's addiction etc)

I love what they're doing with Charity, bringing the Dingles back together in a group and working as a pack, I like more mature Chas, andy's exit was great, Chrissie has been pushed to the edge and i love her scene. I like that now I find Holly's character more likeable. I also like Tracey more than I used to.

I do think they should stop the hour episode and reserve it for a special story. Also they should reduce the affairs, the James and Moira one we saw coming as soon as Emma came into the show but we don't need it - or right now. Also Nico and Dan - unnecessary.

The show has a lot of good things going for it IMO and is in a strong place. If you're finding ED unwatchable though maybe you should question whether you're bored of it or soaps in general
mushymanrob
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cheekymonkey09:
“I'm baffled as to why some think ED is unwatchable yet watch Corrie

The standard IMO is more or less the same as last year. The episodes never feel like a chore to me and I always look forward to watching an episode after work.

There is a lot of depth going on the show currently, storylines are still intertwined and slow burners from months back are coming to the forefront. I love that there is continuity within the show and past stories are never forgotten or always come back (Belle mental health, Holly's addiction etc)

I love what they're doing with Charity, bringing the Dingles back together in a group and working as a pack, I like more mature Chas, andy's exit was great, Chrissie has been pushed to the edge and i love her scene. I like that now I find Holly's character more likeable. I also like Tracey more than I used to.

I do think they should stop the hour episode and reserve it for a special story. Also they should reduce the affairs, the James and Moira one we saw coming as soon as Emma came into the show but we don't need it - or right now. Also Nico and Dan - unnecessary.

The show has a lot of good things going for it IMO and is in a strong place. If you're finding ED unwatchable though maybe you should question whether you're bored of it or soaps in general”

eh?.. what continuity?... i see barely any reference to past events, characters, places (they even miss the opportunity with 'wylies' farm, there was in the past a 'whitely' farm).
Littlegreen42
30-08-2016
I personally believe it's been tremendous this past month, the other two big soaps bore me silly but the acting always draws me in with Emmerdale.
Glendarroch
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“eh?.. what continuity?... i see barely any reference to past events, characters, places (they even miss the opportunity with 'wylies' farm, there was in the past a 'whitely' farm).”

How far back do you want the references to go though? The longest running charActer has only been there since late eighties. They DO refer to past events in these characters' histories - e.g Lisa talking about buying her good bag for Charity's wedding to Tom King. They're very consistent with the Dingles pasts in fact. Then we have Eric occasionally going back to his past as a dodgy dealer ( and potential wife murderer), Bernice talking about how many gay men she has married...they fling it into conversation.
mushymanrob
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“How far back do you want the references to go though? The longest running charActer has only been there since late eighties. They DO refer to past events in these characters' histories - e.g Lisa talking about buying her good bag for Charity's wedding to Tom King. They're very consistent with the Dingles pasts in fact. Then we have Eric occasionally going back to his past as a dodgy dealer ( and potential wife murderer), Bernice talking about how many gay men she has married...they fling it into conversation.”

as long as the shows existed..... whitelys farm will still be there, why create another called 'whylies' unless it was thought of by some kid whos got it wrong?


MORE CRAP last night.... who said its good for continuity? paddy returned in a taxi..... he left driving his car...

..... and its PADDYS HOUSE, so he is totally within his rights to insist pierce leaves. where rhona has a legal claim is another matter, but it was paddys house long before he was with rhona.

more annoying bollocks, destroying likeable characters - i like paddy, i always have.now they are going to make his life a misery for no good reason.
cyrilandshirley
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“as long as the shows existed..... whitelys farm will still be there, why create another called 'whylies' unless it was thought of by some kid whos got it wrong?


MORE CRAP last night.... who said its good for continuity? paddy returned in a taxi..... he left driving his car...

..... and its PADDYS HOUSE, so he is totally within his rights to insist pierce leaves. where rhona has a legal claim is another matter, but it was paddys house long before he was with rhona.

more annoying bollocks, destroying likeable characters - i like paddy, i always have.now they are going to make his life a misery for no good reason.”

To be fair, he didn't take his car to Germany, he left the car at home, so that does vaguely make sense.

After last night though, OP, I'm giving it to you. ED really was unwatchable. It went off.
Nesta Robbins
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cheekymonkey09:
“The episodes never feel like a chore ”

Absoutely! Emmerdale can be deliciously random and its strength is its quirkiness. Loved Paddy fighting like Norman Wisdom last night!
molliepops
31-08-2016
I sometimes wonder if the reason things become unwatchable is we dissect them so much these days, corrie, Emmy etc used to be something you watched enjoyed or thought hope this gets better. Whereas now we dissect and talk about the minutiae of each scene.

I was feeling the belle storyline was great, really showing mental illness as a scary thing not something anyone would chose, but now reading this I'm wondering is it good or am I just a blinded fan who knows nothing about the illness ?

Loved last nights episode but go into the emmerdaily thread and wonder it I watched the same episode everyone else did

I gave up on corrie some years ago I found I was pressing fast forward a lot and not too bothered if I miss an episode, but Emmy I am still watching every episode have set it up to record when I'm on holiday so I don't miss a minute so it's still got IT for me.
Adrian_Ward1
31-08-2016
I found Emmerdale entertainment last night
Pob-Bundy
31-08-2016
On top of everything else it probably reeks of cow s**t there 24/7 too!
Janet Plank
31-08-2016
I was a great fan of Emmerdale for years, but now just tune in occasionally, if there is nothing else to watch. It is just musical beds - the title music plays and the actors all jump into the nearest bed/car/garage with whoever is passing at the the time. Dan should never be accepted as a paramedic as he can't be trusted not to be intimate with patients. Moira took her bra off in the car to have sex with James, then left without it; she is a big girl for her age and would have noticed the lack of support as soon as she got out of the car and fell flat on her face. Did Kerry leave her bra in the car when she had sex with Ross? It would be interesting to know what age group the directors of Emmerdale are aiming at now; it certaily isn't the middle-aged loyal watchers.
FusionFury
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Janet Plank:
“I was a great fan of Emmerdale for years, but now just tune in occasionally, if there is nothing else to watch. It is just musical beds - the title music plays and the actors all jump into the nearest bed/car/garage with whoever is passing at the the time. Dan should never be accepted as a paramedic as he can't be trusted not to be intimate with patients. Moira took her bra off in the car to have sex with James, then left without it; she is a big girl for her age and would have noticed the lack of support as soon as she got out of the car and fell flat on her face. Did Kerry leave her bra in the car when she had sex with Ross? It would be interesting to know what age group the directors of Emmerdale are aiming at now; it certaily isn't the middle-aged loyal watchers.”

Charity romping with Cain in the car recently was very classy too !
ianradioian
31-08-2016
It was chronic last night. The Paddy scenes were just unwatchable.

Emmerdale seems to be being adjusted towards a viewership of kids and teenagers now instead of it being the best balanced and appealing soap on the tv.
mushymanrob
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Nesta Robbins:
“Absoutely! Emmerdale can be deliciously random and its strength is its quirkiness. Loved Paddy fighting like Norman Wisdom last night! ”

yes that was great emmerdale, but when he left HIS home and left pierce in there it was utterly stupid.

who here, if you were in paddys shoes, would let yourself be turned out of your own home?

Originally Posted by ianradioian:
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Emmerdale seems to be being adjusted towards a viewership of kids and teenagers now instead of it being the best balanced and appealing soap on the tv.”

sadly you might have a point there
Danny_Francis
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Adrian_Ward1:
“I found Emmerdale entertainment last night”

Lachlan and Liv doing the Chrissie 'Lachy' impersonations were quite funny to be fair
Cheekymonkey09
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“I sometimes wonder if the reason things become unwatchable is we dissect them so much these days, corrie, Emmy etc used to be something you watched enjoyed or thought hope this gets better. Whereas now we dissect and talk about the minutiae of each scene.

I was feeling the belle storyline was great, really showing mental illness as a scary thing not something anyone would chose, but now reading this I'm wondering is it good or am I just a blinded fan who knows nothing about the illness ?

Loved last nights episode but go into the emmerdaily thread and wonder it I watched the same episode everyone else did

I gave up on corrie some years ago I found I was pressing fast forward a lot and not too bothered if I miss an episode, but Emmy I am still watching every episode have set it up to record when I'm on holiday so I don't miss a minute so it's still got IT for me.”

This is how I feel. I sometimes think people only watch to nitpick, the ED daily thread is just bitching and forum members wishing each other happy birthday or forum milestones.

I no longer give Corrie the time of day as IMO it's unwatchable and has been for a very long time, EE I only tune in for big events, watching full time is draining and depressing.

ED has the right balance for me. We've had drama heavy episodes recently, last night's lighter episode was great viewing. I was watching it with a few family members and we were laughing out loud (Paddy and Pierce's girly fight, Bernice drunk, Marlon and Paddy and Carley - That is ED, it became too gritty and crime focused towards the end of Kate Oates' tenure, I'm glad there is a balance now.

I will fault them on a few things though - the affairs (too many and they are not required), too many episodes (whilst I enjoy the extra hour long ep, it really isn't required in most cases), David's Cancer (I like how it's not doom and gloom, but he IS getting annoying)
sorcha_healy27
31-08-2016
I don't see why Emmerdale has to be immune from criticism given corrie and Eastenders have received far more over the years and justifiably so if people think the shows are poor.

Viewers of Emmerdale are perfectly entitled to critique it if they're not enjoying it. It's great if people are enjoying it too but this isn't an apppreciation section of thr forum so all views are valid unless it's an obvious troll thread or the likes
scone
31-08-2016
I personally think it has been better without the dreadful laurel appearing in every episode. We have had a good few laurel free weeks and now she is creeping back into the episodes and looking at the spoilers she is all over the storylines for the upcoming weeks. I wish she would just leave or be killed off
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