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Brian_Grahams
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“ Brian and Star, I send you genuinely meant sympathy. I know you both loved following G and G's relationship.”

Thank you Lou

Originally Posted by aggs:
“I'm with Edy.
I said earlier on up thread that it seems to be another instance of social medial life not matching real life.

It's just human nature, people want to present a perfect face to the world so their (general their, not this thread specific their) inclination to is post photos and comments that give the impression that everything is super hunkydorey and they are living the most marvelous life - when behind closed doors things are not quite so perfect. Add in people in the public eye and people who have <what is seen by some on the outside> as the perfect love story and the desire to keep that facade must be stronger. I don't know, because I don't read the appreciation thread but had this split been hinted at by people who follow them or was it a bolt out the blue?”

I've a horrible feeling I'm not quite fully understanding what's being said (that's nothing new really! ) but surely a couple are bound to paint a happy picture of their private lives, as they're not likely to have a massive argument over social media for everyone who follows them to see!

Though I think perhaps what is being got at is the idea that Georgia and Giovanni have 'overshared' stuff. Of course, the idea of 'oversharing' can't be quantified and is thus entirely dependent on people's perception, but going off what I've seen of the social media accounts of some celebrity couples, my perception is that Georgia and Giovanni didn't share a great deal more than other celebrity couples. But perhaps I'm wrong.

I personally don't believe G+G ever used social media with the intention of painting a rosier picture of their lives that was the case, but more as a way of sharing some of their relationship with their fans and giving some insight as to what they were doing together. I think they felt some sense of responsibility to do this, given the support and affection there was out there for them as a couple.
With regards to the question of whether it came out of the blue - yes. it did pretty much!
fridgesoup
28-08-2016
Of course some celebrities cook up relationships for all sorts of daft - sometimes very cynical - reasons but it isn't fair to tar everyone with the same brush. I can't see any reason to think G & G's relationship was a sham, just because they 'shared' on social media and it's now at an end .

Seems to me, they worked together and became friends; got close; got closer; thought they were in love (and told everyone about it ; mundane real life set in and they found they'd less in common than they thought/hoped. It strikes me as a very common story.

I don't 'do' social media myself, but most people who do share their lifes and loves that way tend to paint a rosy picture. Doesn't mean it's a 'lie'; just not a 'warts and all' exposé.
aggs
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
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I personally don't believe G+G ever used social media with the intention of painting a rosier picture of their lives that was the case, but more as a way of sharing some of their relationship with their fans and giving some insight as to what they were doing together. I think they felt some sense of responsibility to do this, given the support and affection there was out there for them as a couple.
With regards to the question of whether it came out of the blue - yes. it did pretty much!”

But in a way, your last paragraph proves my point the only parts of their relationship they were sharing were the 'aww, cute, you are gorgeous together' bits (by the sound of it). The fact the split did come out the blue does suggest that the real life going on behind the Instagram pics was just that - messy real life.

As I said, it's not just celebs - I know a couple who split and the first thing someone said was 'they seemed so happy on Twitter'. It's human nature to want to put as best a gloss on things as you can - but people should remember that and not judge a relationship on how many heart emojis there are in a message.
Brian_Grahams
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“But in a way, your last paragraph proves my point the only parts of their relationship they were sharing were the 'aww, cute, you are gorgeous together' bits (by the sound of it). The fact the split did come out the blue does suggest that the real life going on behind the Instagram pics was just that - messy real life.

As I said, it's not just celebs - I know a couple who split and the first thing someone said was 'they seemed so happy on Twitter'. It's human nature to want to put as best a gloss on things as you can - but people should remember that and not judge a relationship on how many heart emojis there are in a message.”

To be honest, I don't think we're really disagreeing on that point, indeed perhaps their real life wasn't as rosy at it may have appeared on social media. My essential point was that celebs are essentially bound to present their lives on social media as perhaps rosier than it is in real life (because of the fact they're unlikely to play out arguments on social media) but that Georgia and Giovanni didn't in my opinion 'overshare' when compared with other celebs.
aggs
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“To be honest, I don't think we're really disagreeing on that point, indeed perhaps their real life wasn't as rosy at it may have appeared on social media. My essential point was that celebs are essentially bound to present their lives on social media as perhaps rosier than it is in real life (because of the fact they're unlikely to play out arguments on social media) but that Georgia and Giovanni didn't in my opinion 'overshare' when compared with other celebs. ”

I don't think it's just celebs, to be fair.

My point really, I guess if I do have a point rather than random musings, is that it goes to show that however much you (generic you, not personal you) may think someone you are following or supporting is allowing you in and sharing things with you - they really aren't. Especially celebs for whom social media is just one more arrow in the PR quiver.
Brian_Grahams
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I don't think it's just celebs, to be fair.

My point really, I guess if I do have a point rather than random musings, is that it goes to show that however much you (generic you, not personal you) may think someone you are following or supporting is allowing you in and sharing things with you - they really aren't. Especially celebs for whom social media is just one more arrow in the PR quiver.”

Oh I totally agree, it isn't just celebs.

And yes, I agree, because of the way social media is it will probably rarely give you an accurate picture, necessitated by the fact that though people share some things they won't want to / be able to share everything.

And as I stated in my first post that it's my belief that GG never intentionally used social media to present a rosier picture of their lives than was the case, but saw it as a method of interacting with many fans who were extremely supportive of their relationship together.
aggs
28-08-2016
Bear with me, I'm away in random musey mode again - but if a relationship is in difficulties and nothing of those difficulties are mooted in posts by either party then they are intentionally presenting a rosier picture than fact.

I'm not saying it's not understandable, but even so it's a facade and if, as you say, this particular breakup came out of the blue - then it's been a very good one.
Brian_Grahams
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Bear with me, I'm away in random musey mode again - but if a relationship is in difficulties and nothing of those difficulties are mooted in posts by either party then they are intentionally presenting a rosier picture than fact.

I'm not saying it's not understandable, but even so it's a facade and if, as you say, this particular breakup came out of the blue - then it's been a very good one.”

But is it not pretty much impossible to understand what people's personal intentions were in posting something on social media?
Fair enough, a photo may have been recently posted on social media which presents a relationship to be more rosy than it is, but that doesn't mean to say that that person did that specifically with the intention of presenting a relationship to be more rosy than it is, even if it might come across like that to someone viewing it. As I say, we'll never really know what someone's intention was behind posting something but I don't personally think they've set out with the intention of creating a facade but perhaps I'm wrong!
edy10
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“What rubbish people break up all the time, social media or not. I doubt that we see even 1% of their lives. The real truth is that for whatever reason relationships don't work and run their course.”

You have a point but I still stand by my previous post.
Don't get me wrong I don't berate people for sharing their private lives whether or not what they're portraying is true but my main point is that I wished that a lot of people wouldn't always take what they see as face value. To each their own. .shrug
Christopher D
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by edy10:
“You have a point but I still stand by my previous post.
Don't get me wrong I don't berate people for sharing their private lives whether or not what they're portraying is true but my main point is that I wished that a lot of people wouldn't always take what they see as face value. To each their own. .shrug”

Well yes I would agree that people should be careful when following celebs private lives because it mostly is that private, but if you see a happy person you think that they are happy.

But as I mentioned 100's of relationships end every month, its sad for them both but it happens. Life will go on.
Leicester_Hunk
28-08-2016
All this fuss about these two - fgs they weren't even together a year. When did it really start, just before Christmas? They've only been together 8 months and she is still so young. How much of that time was really spent "together" (other than the selfies and the holidays, and the posed snoggy pictures when they were on the tour, just for effect)?? I doubt it was very serious in reality. Probably for her it was but I am not sure he took it as seriously. I think he chucked her reading between the lines.
Pretzel
28-08-2016
Aw that's a bit of a shame. Oh well.

I'll admit to liking watching them together last year, partly because I could see the writing on the wall and I also liked speculating on it. I am a right old gossip when it come to things like that, so yes I did rather indulge in some good old speculation at the time.

I also remember reading that tweet about them being spotted in Disneyland and thinking what? has no one else seen this? So yeah I think I guessed their relationship before the tabloids. But a short time after that I lost interest and I really don't like following 'celebs' lives on social media- I get a weird sort of second hand embarrassment from it, so I didn't even know they were still together. So yeah, shame for them but that's relationships for you, particularly for people that age. It must make it even tougher being in the public eye, so I wish them well.

I think, without offending anyone (hopefully), I'm a bit more upset about Gleb not being in the show this year. I don't know if I'll watch the show this year, I'm notoriously fickle when it come to Strictly and the Gleb departure had almost sealed it for me and I don't particularly like (or even know) a lot of the celebs but then I thought I felt the same last year and when I did watch I got hooked so I think I'll give it a go.
JohnStannard
28-08-2016
I bet you he'll run off with his next partner and be the male Kristina
floppers
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Gavin_Martin:
“Georgia's romance with Giovanni was not fake at all”

How do you know that exactly? No one can really know what goes on behind closed doors (well, without spy equipment anyway).
Ochre
29-08-2016
Giovanni's doing the right thing professionally in keeping a dignified silence on social media now.
Brian_Grahams
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“Giovanni's doing the right thing professionally in keeping a dignified silence on social media now.”

Perhaps you're right, but it's damn hard at time like this to always do what is perceived as 'right' professionally. Perhaps thinking of your professional career shouldn't necessarily always be considered a priority.
Ochre
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Perhaps you're right, but it's damn hard at time like this to always do what is perceived as 'right' professionally. Perhaps thinking of your professional career shouldn't necessarily always be considered a priority.”

It certainly should when he's employed as a professional teacher and primarily responsible for the experience his new celebrity has on the show.
Brian_Grahams
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“It certainly should when he's employed as a professional teacher and primarily responsible for the experience his new celebrity has on the show.”

Yes, I see what you mean - I guess it depends on what you're involved in professionally.
Huph
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“Giovanni's doing the right thing professionally in keeping a dignified silence on social media now.”

Don't understand why Georgia is putting her feelings out there on social media.
Jennifer_F
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“It certainly should when he's employed as a professional teacher and primarily responsible for the experience his new celebrity has on the show.”

Fully agree.Perhaps the relationship as far as Gio was concerned, had run its course, and he felt it best to sever all ties before the start of this years show, therefore being able to focus 100% on it.
Brian_Grahams
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Huph:
“Don't understand why Georgia is putting her feelings out there on social media.”

Everybody deals with these situation differently, and everybody has different ideas about what is right/correct to do.
What isn't in question is that it's a time of high emotion, and sometimes in these sort of situations it's difficult to know why you act in certain ways yourself, let alone try and understand the way in which other people are acting.
aggs
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Yes, I see what you mean - I guess it depends on what you're involved in professionally.”

Lots of professional people are ... encouraged ... to be careful what they put on social media. I have a nurse friend who steers well clear because of the minefield it presents.

It's harsh but true, Giovanni is employed to do a job which starts this week and his celebrity needs him to be 100% focused on her, not some tit-for-tat Twitter and Instagram war.
Huph
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Everybody deals with these situation differently, and everybody has different ideas about what is right/correct to do.
What isn't in question is that it's a time of high emotion, and sometimes in these sort of situations it's difficult to know why you act in certain ways yourself, let alone try and understand the way in which other people are acting.”

Just don't understand why anyone would feel the need to let everyone know how heartbroken you are.
fridgesoup
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by Huph:
“Don't understand why Georgia is putting her feelings out there on social media.”

I wish she'd stop. Whatever's gone on between them, Gio's about to be very much in the public eye and it's a little unfair to have this in the background. I'm not wishing to be unkind to Georgia, but I think it would be wiser and more generous to respect each other's privacy; but then a lot of young people are a bit emotionally incontinent on social media 😬 .
Brian_Grahams
29-08-2016
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“I wish she'd stop. Whatever's gone on between them, Gio's about to be very much in the public eye and it's a little unfair to have this in the background. I'm not wishing to be unkind to Georgia, but I think it would be wiser and more generous to respect each other's privacy; but then a lot of young people are a bit emotionally incontinent on social media 😬 .”

Without knowing many of the details of the way in which the relationship ended, I'm inclined to reserve judgement on who/who may not have been wise/generous.
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