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aggs
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“But I would've suggested that it is wise at times like this to be very careful about the way in which you word things. I mean if you were in Georgia's situation, two days after breaking up with someone, would you be best pleased to hear that they were excited about a new journey?
It was a careless remark I think.”

People can dress it up however it makes them feel better, but it is beyond presumptuous to actually tell someone they have never met - on behalf of someone else they have never met - where they are going wrong just because they've watched them on a tele show and without access to any of the facts.
Brian_Grahams
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“People can dress it up however it makes them feel better, but it is beyond presumptuous to actually tell someone they have never met - on behalf of someone else they have never met - where they are going wrong just because they've watched them on a tele show and without access to any of the facts.”

I think people were generally speaking on behalf of themselves rather than someone else and offered their own opinions on what he said.

Some felt the wording wasn't appropriate, others said to cut him some slack. People perceive things differently, and so long as they're not rude or offensive are entitled, are entitled to express how they feel about something, I think.
Ellie1967
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“People can dress it up however it makes them feel better, but it is beyond presumptuous to actually tell someone they have never met - on behalf of someone else they have never met - where they are going wrong just because they've watched them on a tele show and without access to any of the facts.”

Completely agree. It will be interesting to see if Giovanni goes more towards the Pasha end of the social media spectrum now that he has seen the downsides of 'sharing' your relationship on there. It's a shame that the very people who most enjoy seeing the details of celeb's relationships can often put them off sharing things through that sort of behaviour.
Ochre
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“But I would've suggested that it is wise at times like this to be very careful about the way in which you word things. I mean if you were in Georgia's situation, two days after breaking up with someone, would you be best pleased to hear that they were excited about a new journey?
It was a careless remark I think.”

All the pros use the j word. It's Giovanni's job to teach and mentor his new celeb and take them on their Strictly journey, I'm sure whoever she turns out to be she'll be glad he's excited about it! He's being professional.
Lou_Black
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“I think people were generally speaking on behalf of themselves rather than someone else and offered their own opinions on what he said.

Some felt the wording wasn't appropriate, others said to cut him some slack. People perceive things differently, and so long as they're not rude or offensive are entitled, are entitled to express how they feel about something, I think.”

Someone kept hounding him (it was a text speaky kind of person if u no wot I mean - no judgement) and telling him he was shallow It is extraordinary how people (not you!) feel they do actually know someone well enough to give them relationship tips on a public form. Do you (general question - am not expecting you to know the answer!) think that Giovanni would seriously think "hey, I've just been told by someone I have never met in my life that I really to have a little think about what I'm doing here. Thank goodness for that person, they have changed my life". Unrequestedfor (new word) advice is annoying in most situations but super super annoying when it comes from complete strangers about something which is actually quite personal!
aggs
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Someone kept hounding him (it was a text speaky kind of person if u no wot I mean - no judgement) and telling him he was shallow It is extraordinary how people (not you!) feel they do actually know someone well enough to give them relationship tips on a public form. Do you (general question - am not expecting you to know the answer!) think that Giovanni would seriously think "hey, I've just been told by someone I have never met in my life that I really to have a little think about what I'm doing here. Thank goodness for that person, they have changed my life". Unrequestedfor (new word) advice is annoying in most situations but super super annoying when it comes from complete strangers about something which is actually quite personal!”

I have to admit to being completely confuddled by it. Just when you think you've seen it all something pops up to make you realise that nah, there's plenty left yet!

Hounding someone you're supposed to be a fan of until they take down an innocuous picture/tweet of their new job - and it being OK because you care is definitely one for the sticker book.
jivingmissdaisy
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“All the pros use the j word. It's Giovanni's job to teach and mentor his new celeb and take them on their Strictly journey, I'm sure whoever she turns out to be she'll be glad he's excited about it! He's being professional.”

This is exactly how I interpreted it, others may feel differently and I respect that, but the J-word (after years of watching Strictly I can’t even say it) made me think he was just talking about the whole Strictly experience and the start of a new series and competition. I expect he just wants to throw himself into his work now, more than ever, and as Georgia's got a busy schedule coming up, she will too.
Lou_Black
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by jivingmissdaisy:
“This is exactly how I interpreted it, others may feel differently and I respect that, but the J-word (after years of watching Strictly I can’t even say it) made me think he was just talking about the whole Strictly experience and the start of a new series and competition. I expect he just wants to throw himself into his work now, more than ever, and as Georgia's got a busy schedule coming up, she will too.”

Absolutely. Keeping busy is often one of the best remedies for "getting over" (I know that sounds trite) a relationship break up. It may be my Scottish roots and my Yorkshire husband's influence but brooding and over analysing rarely helps anyone. That's not to say people shouldn't be allowed to talk to their nearest and dearest but that's a separate issue.
aggs
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“All the pros use the j word. It's Giovanni's job to teach and mentor his new celeb and take them on their Strictly journey, I'm sure whoever she turns out to be she'll be glad he's excited about it! He's being professional.”

Can you imagine if he'd posted a Daily Mail sad trombone face pic and captioned it something like - back the to grind ... I'd rather be Hemeling? Don't think The Powers that Be in Strictly Towers would have been super impressed
nina99
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I have to admit to being completely confuddled by it. Just when you think you've seen it all something pops up to make you realise that nah, there's plenty left yet!

Hounding someone you're supposed to be a fan of until they take down an innocuous picture/tweet of their new job - and it being OK because you care is definitely one for the sticker book.”

As has been said before it was the wording of Giovanni's tweet that was unfortunate seeing as his "journey" with Georgia had just ended the day before. On reflection it was unfair to mention this since English is his second language. So, am I sure that we all all duly contrite for any annoyance caused!
aggs
30-08-2016
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S'not worff it.
Ochre
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Can you imagine if he'd posted a Daily Mail sad trombone face pic and captioned it something like - back the to grind ... I'd rather be Hemeling? Don't think The Powers that Be in Strictly Towers would have been super impressed ”

Daily Mail sad trombone face is my phrase of the day
MaggieMcGee
30-08-2016
Good god, poor Giovanni! I think those people on Twitter need to get a life.
Huph
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“Good god, poor Giovanni! I think those people on Twitter need to get a life.”

Exactly!!! Why would you comment something nasty about something you know nothing about
nina99
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Huph:
“Exactly!!! Why would you comment something nasty about something you know nothing about ”


Actually Giovanni has had to put up with a lot worse from people who seem convinced that he will run off with his next dance partner. Heaven help him if he is partnered with Laura Whitmore! The Daily Fail trolls will have a field day!
Christopher D
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by nina99:
“Actually Giovanni has had to put up with a lot worse from people who seem convinced that he will run off with his next dance partner. Heaven help him if he is partnered with Laura Whitmore! The Daily Fail trolls will have a field day!”

Good chance of that happening I think and he will have a lot of media scrutiny if it happens.
choucroute
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I have to admit to being completely confuddled by it. Just when you think you've seen it all something pops up to make you realise that nah, there's plenty left yet!

Hounding someone you're supposed to be a fan of until they take down an innocuous picture/tweet of their new job - and it being OK because you care is definitely one for the sticker book.”

I have to admit to being fascinated by shippers and super fans--dipping into fandoms gives one a lot of insight into the human psyche. The fairytale romance narrative is a powerful one. Some hardcore shippers of the stars of Twilight (who were a real life couple for a time) dealt with the two stars' break-up by believing the break-up and their subsequent new relationships were staged as a cover for their secret marriage and their 2 secret children. (Not to mention the vile racist comments left on the social media of the new girlfriend.)
Vodka_Drinka
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“Good god, poor Giovanni! I think those people on Twitter need to get a life.”

I will never understand why some people get so overly invested in the relationships of people they've never met, or are ever likely to meet? It's really common on these reality/talent type shows, especially Big Brother, where people who call themselves 'shippers' become completley focussed on a romance.

I can only assume these people have very little going on in their lives and are projecting.
aggs
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by choucroute:
“I have to admit to being fascinated by shippers and super fans--dipping into fandoms gives one a lot of insight into the human psyche. The fairytale romance narrative is a powerful one. Some hardcore shippers of the stars of Twilight (who were a real life couple for a time) dealt with the two stars' break-up by believing the break-up and their subsequent new relationships were staged as a cover for their secret marriage and their 2 secret children. (Not to mention the vile racist comments left on the social media of the new girlfriend.)”

Really? That's ... Wow ... Two secret children!

I confess I did used to read a joint appreciation thread over in the DS Big Brother field - over 200 parts ... mainly because the contributors used to swoop down into the main board righting any perceived wrongs.

When, after a fly on the wall show and a couple of hilarious OK mag shoots, the couple in question split up and one half legged it back to Australia it was complete carnage. I don't think DS has ever seen the like.
star89
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Huph:
“Exactly!!! Why would you comment something nasty about something you know nothing about ”

I thought the same over all the nasty comments Georgia received for her break up with Sean

Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I will never understand why some people get so overly invested in the relationships of people they've never met, or are ever likely to meet? It's really common on these reality/talent type shows, especially Big Brother, where people who call themselves 'shippers' become completley focussed on a romance.

I can only assume these people have very little going on in their lives and are projecting.”

Well, yes, actually. My life is pretty sh*t right now.
Huph
30-08-2016
[quote=star89;83790675]I thought the same over all the nasty comments Georgia received for her break up with Sean
I was generalising about why would people comment on other people's relationships when they don't have a clue what is going on.
Lou_Black
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by star89:
“I thought the same over all the nasty comments Georgia received for her break up with Sean



Well, yes, actually. My life is pretty sh*t right now.”

Morning Star

Point 1 - I agree, there were some hideous comments on her Twitter feed. There were also some hideous comments about Sean. Again, no-one really knew what happened. There was one "leak" to the press which was not confirmed/denied by either party and why should they? It's no-one's business.

Point 2 - I am sorry to hear that. X I don't think anyone could say you are not one of the politest and nicest (don't tell my English teacher I used that word ) people on this forum. I know we don't agree 100% (cough) on all aspects of G and G and their relationship but you are one of those, like Brian, who is always reasonable about it.
nina99
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Morning Star

Point 1 - I agree, there were some hideous comments on her Twitter feed. There were also some hideous comments about Sean. Again, no-one really knew what happened. There was one "leak" to the press which was not confirmed/denied by either party and why should they? It's no-one's business.

Point 2 - I am sorry to hear that. X I don't think anyone could say you are not one of the politest and nicest (don't tell my English teacher I used that word ) people on this forum. I know we don't agree 100% (cough) on all aspects of G and G and their relationship but you are one of those, like Brian, who is always reasonable about it.”

Kind of you to say that Lou.

To repeat a point made on the appreciation thread it's just as well that Georgia and Giovanni didn't win last year or their winners dance on the launch show would be beyond awkward!
Lou_Black
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by nina99:
“Kind of you to say that Lou.

To repeat a point made on the appreciation thread it's just as well that Georgia and Giovanni didn't win last year or their winners dance on the launch show would be beyond awkward!”

Oh blimey, I hadn't even thought about that!
star89
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Morning Star

Point 2 - I am sorry to hear that. X I don't think anyone could say you are not one of the politest and nicest (don't tell my English teacher I used that word ) people on this forum. I know we don't agree 100% (cough) on all aspects of G and G and their relationship but you are one of those, like Brian, who is always reasonable about it.”

Afternoon Lou

That is very kind of you to say Mustn't complain really. Far more people worse off than me.

Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“Oh blimey, I hadn't even thought about that!”

No, neither had we. Someone mentioned it the other night and we all agreed on how awkward that would be. We had a few jokes to lighten the sombre mood in our thread - that Paso could turn nasty if performed now And the Charleston lift could be even more dangerous..
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