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"Produced Reality"
Don't think I've seen this posted, Brian Dowling thinks things have changed too...
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Yeah he knows it's a different ball game on C5.
No 24/7 Live Feed to keep the show honest and when they do bother to put a feed on look what happens. Utterly incompetent the lot of em. |
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was all "produced". Remember the whatsit (??) app comment Chloe made about Renee.
I was looking for info on the after-party and came across the following link where Bear and Aubrey seem to be getting on fine (with Pauly D looking on): http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...smokes-8716117 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was all "produced". Remember the whatsit (??) app comment Chloe made about Renee.
I was looking for info on the after-party and came across the following link where Bear and Aubrey seem to be getting on fine (with Pauly D looking on): http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...smokes-8716117 ![]() I think the producers have a good idea of storylines soon after the casting stage and give helpful 'nudges' along the way which some HMs are aware of and others aren't. I don't think it's actually scripted though, not yet. It's probably on the cards though eventually. |
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Don't think I've seen this posted, Brian Dowling thinks things have changed too...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...ed-reality-tv/ Letting it be known that he'll defend his trophy. He'll probably be in next year's BB All Stars. Unfortunately Bear will probably be there too. |
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I think it's probably more produced and steered than most casual viewers think but less than the conspiracy theorists think
![]() I think the producers have a good idea of storylines soon after the casting stage and give helpful 'nudges' along the way which some HMs are aware of and others aren't. I don't think it's actually scripted though, not yet. It's probably on the cards though eventually. IDK in truth. I think some of them had an "outline" of parts they previously talked about playing. Maybe they improvised a bit....not sure. I don't think it is scripted but I think it is more staged than just the bit we saw on LF. I also think some of the HM stage themselves or work together (even if working against each other). Most of them know there have to be "sides" (remember the 4 in and 4 out from that civilian series when they tried not to have sides). |
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BB has always been "produced reality".
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BB has always been "produced reality".
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I think you are right. It is somewhere in the middle of the two extremes (scripted vs reality). I would not be surprised if the Bear vs Renee bit was fake yet the ADHD-like behavior of Bear was likely real as was it's effects on some of the HMs. However I do think the HMs may have embellished their reactions a bit. Yes, it is a "pressure cooker" but I still think some of it was embellished. I also question if all of them were in on it--I don't think so. I don't think Sam or Ricky were in on anything.
IDK in truth. I think some of them had an "outline" of parts they previously talked about playing. Maybe they improvised a bit....not sure. I don't think it is scripted but I think it is more staged than just the bit we saw on LF. I also think some of the HM stage themselves or work together (even if working against each other). Most of them know there have to be "sides" (remember the 4 in and 4 out from that civilian series when they tried not to have sides). http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...php?p=83761664 |
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Letting it be known that he'll defend his trophy. He'll probably be in next year's BB All Stars. Unfortunately Bear will probably be there too.
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BB has always been "produced reality".
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It must hurt the aficionados, but the majority of it is scripted. This likely includes the 'controversies' that lead to individuals getting thrown out.
"We'll give you £50k if you say this. You aren't going to win it anyway and your career is non existent as it is." It moved from a loose nudging to outright script with Helen Wood. That whole series was written in advance. Tyson was a plant to get her immunity - that was blatantly obvious at the time. But then some still believe everything they see on the television and read in the papers. It's a defence mechanism against reality, which in BB's case is the ultimate irony. |
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was all "produced". Remember the whatsit (??) app comment Chloe made about Renee.
I was looking for info on the after-party and came across the following link where Bear and Aubrey seem to be getting on fine (with Pauly D looking on): http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...smokes-8716117 Continuity errors like Ricky's cigarette doesn't mean it's fake either. They just show the parts of the conversation they find interesting enough to show. They're not going to keep in the boring bits. If that means Ricky saying something to Bear while holding a half smoked cigarette and then cutting to Bear and then back to Ricky who is now holding a full size cigarette then that's what's gonna happen. This is a bit dodgy though because it's like they're restructuring a conversation. They're making it seem like Ricky replied to Bear with something he said 5 minutes ago. In that scenario it didn't really make a difference but that's something they could use to twist things. |
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It must hurt the aficionados, but the majority of it is scripted. This likely includes the 'controversies' that lead to individuals getting thrown out.
"We'll give you £50k if you say this. You aren't going to win it anyway and your career is non existent as it is." It moved from a loose nudging to outright script with Helen Wood. That whole series was written in advance. Tyson was a plant to get her immunity - that was blatantly obvious at the time. But then some still believe everything they see on the television and read in the papers. It's a defence mechanism against reality, which in BB's case is the ultimate irony. I'm inclined to agree. I've seen it as a 'soap' for a few years. The only ones being manipulated is the viewing public. Particularly those daft sods who spend their hard-earned money on voting. |
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It must hurt the aficionados, but the majority of it is scripted. This likely includes the 'controversies' that lead to individuals getting thrown out.
"We'll give you £50k if you say this. You aren't going to win it anyway and your career is non existent as it is." It moved from a loose nudging to outright script with Helen Wood. That whole series was written in advance. Tyson was a plant to get her immunity - that was blatantly obvious at the time. But then some still believe everything they see on the television and read in the papers. It's a defence mechanism against reality, which in BB's case is the ultimate irony. |
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I think "produced" reality is the best description. I think a lot of people (including some on these forums) seem to think the term "scripted" means everyone has been given words to say for the whole time they are there (which is not the case).
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Brian, my all time favourite BB winner an housemate!
Does he mean all BBs, or just Celebrity versions? Have any of the recent HMs mentioned whether it was scripted or not? I suppose they would not be allowed to say if it was, I am assuming they are legally gagged. But, who knows! |
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I think they will manipulate certain tasks for certain winners etc. But I think the interactions between the HMs are real. Well as real as they are being. But the production team definitely splice it all up into something completely different than what actually happened.
I'm sure most of us have seen the 'Screenwipe' episode where Charlie shows how misleading reality editing can be made. |
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Brian, my all time favourite BB winner an housemate! Quote:
I think "produced" reality is the best description. I think a lot of people (including some on these forums) seem to think the term "scripted" means everyone has been given words to say for the whole time they are there (which is not the case).
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Brian, my all time favourite BB winner an housemate!
Yes, I see it as being like Towie and other shows like it - where situations are created to produce drama. |
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I think "produced" reality is the best description. I think a lot of people (including some on these forums) seem to think the term "scripted" means everyone has been given words to say for the whole time they are there (which is not the case).
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Do they not just create a situation and the 'actors' construct their own dialogue?
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Lots of people on here are now absolutely convinced that all reality participants are given scripts to learn. I've seen talk about scripts being 'delivered' and 'written in advance.' This betrays a genuine lack of knowledge about how structured reality works.
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Lots of people on here are now absolutely convinced that all reality participants are given scripts to learn. I've seen talk about scripts being 'delivered' and 'written in advance.' This betrays a genuine lack of knowledge about how structured reality works.
Lots of people on here, myself included, don't like that it's been switched to "structured reality"( which is a seriously wanky term in my opinion ). But I've not read anybody saying it's totally scripted or that the HMs had to learn their lines except when they're being sarcastic. I think maybe you're taking a lot of posts at face value. Edit: I just realised that you might not be talking about BB in particular but more about TOWIE/GS shows. In which case I misunderstood your post.
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I think that's a bit overboard. I haven't seen lots of people on here saying anything like that.
Lots of people on here, myself included, don't like that it's been switched to "structured reality"( which is a seriously wanky term in my opinion ). But I've not read anybody saying it's totally scripted or that the HMs had to learn their lines except when they're being sarcastic. I think maybe you're taking a lot of posts at face value.
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