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"Can we go again? I said, two-time, low down, no good, m*****f*****r instead of two-time, low down, no good, c**k s****r"
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I have no idea what that's a reference too. lmao
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That's Renee messing up one of her lines from the script they all read from
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Don't think I've seen this posted, Brian Dowling thinks things have changed too...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...ed-reality-tv/ I'm done with it all! |
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Lots of people on here are now absolutely convinced that all reality participants are given scripts to learn. I've seen talk about scripts being 'delivered' and 'written in advance.' This betrays a genuine lack of knowledge about how structured reality works.
I think the likes of Brian Belo (play stupid), Dexter Koh (play the nasty nick type but in a smoother way) etc, go into BB with an idea of what creates interest and will "freestyle it" through the show. Some may have even practised scenarios and sayings in case the situation arises. It's just that they were better at it than Marnie was. |
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Does Brian Belo "play" stupid or is he just stupid?
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Does Brian Belo "play" stupid or is he just stupid?
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Does Brian Belo "play" stupid or is he just stupid?
He created TOWIE .. one of the biggest reality shows in the UK. |
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Brian is not stupid.
He created TOWIE .. one of the biggest reality shows in the UK. |
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Can anyone explain why anyone needs ''produced'' reality, or whatever?
Genuine question: ....... why not watch drama, ... or soaps? What is the appeal? |
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Can anyone explain why anyone needs ''produced'' reality, or whatever?
Genuine question: ....... why not watch drama, ... or soaps? What is the appeal? |
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Can anyone explain why anyone needs ''produced'' reality, or whatever?
Genuine question: ....... why not watch drama, ... or soaps? What is the appeal? Slowly but surely the reality format became more story driven like a soap until we reach the point we're at now. A soap with an improvised script but heavily story driven just like any other soap. |
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Can anyone explain why anyone needs ''produced'' reality, or whatever?
Genuine question: ....... why not watch drama, ... or soaps? What is the appeal? ![]() Just kidding I hate all that crap. |
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Brian is not stupid.
He created TOWIE .. one of the biggest reality shows in the UK. I just learnt Belo's a millionaire. Mind blown. |
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Whhaaaattttt???!!
I just learnt Belo's a millionaire. Mind blown. Created a showreel for a reality show called Totally Essex Which included some of the now more famous people who went on to be in TOWIE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USX6tKZxK_o Took the reel to Lime Pictures They basically stole the format and cast Sold it to ITV. Brian then had to fight a long legal battle with ITV/Lime in order to prove it was his creation. The court case was due to finally be heard on the Monday. ITV/Lime settle out of court for an undisclosed fee on the Friday before. |
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Originally I think reality tv gained traction because people were looking for something other than traditional soaps,it was something new.
Slowly but surely the reality format became more story driven like a soap until we reach the point we're at now. A soap with an improvised script but heavily story driven just like any other soap. (Not trying to be argumentative. I don't really understand. I came at BB in the first place from the ''fly-on-the-wall'' documentary stance, but that genre has changed too, in many cases) Edit: LOL at Lee Bo, and WOW at the BBelo story !!! |
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The Brian TOWIE story in short form.
Created a showreel for a reality show called Totally Essex Which included some of the now more famous people who went on to be in TOWIE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USX6tKZxK_o Took the reel to Lime Pictures They basically stole the format and cast Sold it to ITV. Brian then had to fight a long legal battle with ITV/Lime in order to prove it was his creation. The court case was due to finally be heard on the Monday. ITV/Lime settle out of court for an undisclosed fee on the Friday before. |
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Yes, I see your point, but why not employ proper actors to improvise? As other posters have said, reality ''stars'' don't always do so good a job.
(Not trying to be argumentative. I don't really understand. I came at BB in the first place from the ''fly-on-the-wall'' documentary stance, but that genre has changed too, in many cases) |
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I think it's a bit like wrestling, people want to believe it's real so they do and ignore everything else.
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Yes, I see your point, but why not employ proper actors to improvise? As other posters have said, reality ''stars'' don't always do so good a job.
(Not trying to be argumentative. I don't really understand. I came at BB in the first place from the ''fly-on-the-wall'' documentary stance, but that genre has changed too, in many cases) Edit: LOL at Lee Bo, and WOW at the BBelo story !!! That added to the sensation that it was something different and unpredictable. Even if it was on the whole quite predictable. Mostly average people out of their comfort zone and being watched 24/7 was quite compelling. However,now fast forward nearly 20 years and everything has been seen and everyone knows exactly how to act. So we're back at the stage we were before all this began ... a soap. |
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However,now fast forward nearly 20 years and everything has been seen and everyone knows exactly how to act.
So we're back at the stage we were before all this began ... a soap. I think the rot set in when they started putting crazier and crazier people in. That started on C4 and C5 just ramped it up to 11. |
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Originally BB in particular had more of a raw feel to it than you'd get from a well polished soap with half decent actors.
That added to the sensation that it was something different and unpredictable. Even if it was on the whole quite predictable. Mostly average people out of their comfort zone and being watched 24/7 was quite compelling. However,now fast forward nearly 20 years and everything has been seen and everyone knows exactly how to act. So we're back at the stage we were before all this began ... a soap. Even the narrator, (Marcus Bentley?) had a ''serious'' tone, but now sounds more like a sort of circus ringmaster. Edit: I agree Xuri. I, for one, would find that much more interesting, but the whole BB brand is now tarnished. What would Orwell have thought about it all! Oh well. |
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Yeah, it's changed since Big Brother 1 and they have their own agendas and stories they want to tell, but that doesn't mean everything is fake. Not that I needed them to convince me but I also believe the words of people who have actually been in there who have been defending the show on twitter since the controversy started. Chris (from Helen's series) said they did the getting into bed thing too at the request of Big Brother but defended it saying it's the only thing they did and said the programme wasn't fake. Joel defended it aswell and said Big Brother is the most real reality show on tv (I agree with him). I also remember reading a question and answer thread for an ex-housemate on here once and one of the questions was if he had ever been told what to say while in the diary room. His answer was 'Never'.
Celebrity HMs have fees from the show and reputations to think of which gives their agents a chance to demand how they're treated and portrayed. Normal BB may be pretty much What You See Is What You Get except for them pushing agendas such as Helen v Ashleigh or sending Marc in with orders to wind everyone up. I think it best to assume now that CBB is even more agenda-driven than the civvy show. Whether anyone find the results entertaining or not is up to them but let's not kid ourselves it's traditional Reality TV any more. |
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Yes, I see your point, but why not employ proper actors to improvise? As other posters have said, reality ''stars'' don't always do so good a job
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good actors cost a lot of money, reality stars are cheap as chips
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