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I think Brian under-estimates the GBP, people watch the bake-off in huge numbers and that's not for the twists and gunging people
![]() I watched the launch show of BB2 again recently and found the way the show was put together quite lovely, almost like 1960s tv it seems now , if you have a spare hour check it out ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sume...nw0Ddd-0RCoeJP |
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For me those marathon length tasks were the best bit about it, they all had to work together as a team to pass or else they actually had to survive on a basic diet, soaking peas/beans the night before. Now they may as well all refuse to do anything, and just carry on fighting as they get fed no-matter what.
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Which meant the power and the group dynamic in the house were constantly shifting. Forcing HM together caused relationships and rapport to be forged between individuals who were not perhaps in the same clique. And of course stresses and strains woudl show up in other groups. It made for a far motre interesting sert up to observe. Now its just a game show puire and simple and it seems with a relatively pre-determined winner.
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Ah nostalgia. I think I've got to that age where I don't want to move forward anymore, the past is so much nicer. It's definitely like another bloody country!
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even the idiots were nicer, Helen says a brilliantly stupid thing in that launch show, Amma says she works as a table dancer and Helen replies "oh, I teach dancing"
![]() Bless. "I like blinkin', I do".
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It's only a matter of time before his BFF Narinder pipes up as well, she usually does ..
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One of the best things about Brian getting the push from BB is that Narinder never appears on SOTS any more. As far as panellists go she was almost as bad as Katona for shouting the odds and interrupting other guests
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Great housemate.
Awful presenter. |
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Great housemate.
Awful presenter.
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Aah I still love Brian. If he ever did appear in the Ultimate Ultimate I'd not only start watching but voting for him again just to make a point to the dumbed down producers.
I don't see why a long task wouldn't be engaging if it was well thought through and had proper consequences for failing. |
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I think Brian under-estimates the GBP, people watch the bake-off in huge numbers and that's not for the twists and gunging people
![]() I watched the launch show of BB2 again recently and found the way the show was put together quite lovely, almost like 1960s tv it seems now , if you have a spare hour check it out ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sume...nw0Ddd-0RCoeJP ![]() Some VT of their actual lives, their personalities, their home life, who they are. It's a world away from a scripted studio interview "Yeah, I'm gonna cause some drama, I don't take prisoners, if people want an argument I'll give it and I like f**king too." That seems to be the MO for the past few years anyway. I thought it was funny how they made it seem like a maximum security prison 'doing a last minute sweep for listening devices' ![]() Also Bubble saying 'this is reem, this is reem, this is reem' few years ahead of Mr Essex.
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I think Brian under-estimates the GBP, people watch the bake-off in huge numbers and that's not for the twists and gunging people
![]() I watched the launch show of BB2 again recently and found the way the show was put together quite lovely, almost like 1960s tv it seems now , if you have a spare hour check it out ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sume...nw0Ddd-0RCoeJP Bakeoff is wonderfully gentle and you get to know the people and it's fascinating. I love all the shows which show people demonstrating or learning something, it's a great way to get to know them. I sometimes think that BB helped promote THAT sort of interest and these sorts of shows. Sadly though, it's always had that seedy side, and now it's gone hopelessly sleazy and the demographic has shifted and narrowed. Most that watch BB aren't those that watch Bake off now. But there is ALWAYS a market for the gentler reality shows, because it's fascinating. BB just doesn't do it now, but because in some important way, it was seminal, we want it to HAVE that quality, at least in part. BB doesn't want to have it or be it, anymore. It's positioned itself very differently. In the gutter. |
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BB doesn't want to have it or be it, anymore. It's positioned itself very differently. In the gutter. It will soon be a fully contrived show pandering to people with limited understanding and attention spans. |
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The drama, arguments, animosity and showmances are more important than the people and their personalities.
It will soon be a fully contrived show pandering to people with limited understanding and attention spans. It's nearly there, it's just the die hard fans that are sometimes in the way. |
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The drama, arguments, animosity and showmances are more important than the people and their personalities..
good drama needs to build slowly, then when it comes it is truly dramatic, in BB2 we had to wait quite a while, then we had the Amma/Stuart row and Brian screaming about Josh, and I never forget that night
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Which meant the power and the group dynamic in the house were constantly shifting. Forcing HM together caused relationships and rapport to be forged between individuals who were not perhaps in the same clique. And of course stresses and strains woudl show up in other groups. It made for a far motre interesting sert up to observe. Now its just a game show puire and simple and it seems with a relatively pre-determined winner.
Now like you say it's just a game show pure and Simple ,with a lot of ''scripted'' Scenes a-la TOWIE
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Agreed An ,I loved the early BBs and the days long Tasks ,Arguing over the shopping Lists ,the normal Conversations etc and of course the 24/7 LF ..Brian still remains one of my all time Favourite HMs and Voting for him in the BB2 Final was the last time I ever Voted on BB
Now like you say it's just a game show pure and Simple ,with a lot of ''scripted'' Scenes a-la TOWIE ![]()
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Brian was funny in a natural and not forced and "look at me, folks" way. Gone are the days!
Everyone is aware of the ins and outs of the show, and it's not fresh anymore. |
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This thread's got a better attention-grabbing headline than yours though
![]() Brian Dowling's BB alumni turned presenter - proper clickbait around these parts ![]() Quote:
Noted for next time
![]() The next thread will be titled >>>>SCANDAL AS BBs BRIAN DOWLING SLAMS CBB<<<< ![]() ![]() ![]()
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He's alive
firing him was the best decision they ever made. |
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Exactly.
It's nearly there, it's just the die hard fans that are sometimes in the way. II don't think we're in the way anymore, the new style BB has barged past us without so much as a backward glance. |
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Most of the tasks were fun and tested them, now all the producers want are tasks that cause conflict and bad feelings.
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Most of the tasks were fun and tested them, now all the producers want are tasks that cause conflict and bad feelings.
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He'd be better at Marcus's job if ever he leaves. His voice and wit would be perfect.
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Why did they get rid of Brian? Anyone know?
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firing him was the best decision they ever made.