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Old 28-08-2016, 13:20
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My question doesn't precisely for a category here but chose this one.

Can anyone recommend the cheapest or best option to transfer contents of Cassettes onto PC?


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Old 28-08-2016, 14:43
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If you are in W.H.Smiths have a quick look at the article in this months Mac Format (PCs will be similar) Audacity is a free and very good audio recording tool but takes some time to learn, they have on line tutorials. Your PC may have an audio input in which case you will not need an A-D convertor.
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Old 28-08-2016, 14:52
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If you are in W.H.Smiths have a quick look at the article in this months Mac Format (PCs will be similar) Audacity is a free and very good audio recording tool but takes some time to learn, they have on line tutorials. Your PC may have an audio input in which case you will not need an A-D convertor.
I obviously need a cassette player, what input does it have to have to connect with the pc?
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Old 28-08-2016, 14:58
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As mentioned above Audacity plus a 3.5mm stereo jack plug to two phono socket lead if you have a Hi-Fi separates cassette machine or 3.5mm stereo jack to 3.5mm stereo jack lead if you have a walkman type player. That assumes you computer has a Line In socket. A desktop PC will likely have one but I have seen quite a few laptops with no line in, maybe a mic connection for a headset which is of no use.

If you don't have a suitable line input on the computer try a USB soundcard. But be careful. A lot of the smaller USB plug types (look like a USB flash drive) only have a mono mic input which is no use to you. I would recommend this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-U...dp/B000KW2YEI/

which is surprisingly decent quality for 25 quid.
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Old 28-08-2016, 14:58
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I obviously need a cassette player, what input does it have to have to connect with the pc?
Line in. You may need to use a cassette player with a variable o/p as the sensitivity on my ancient HP PC is quite high and I have to attenuate the signal to stop it overloading. If you Google your problem there will probably be a you tube how to do it video out there.
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Old 28-08-2016, 19:21
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Many thanks for the reply.

I have done this in the past and the sound has come out quite distorted, like its recording at too high a volume. Would Audacity be able to control this?
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Old 28-08-2016, 19:41
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Line in. You may need to use a cassette player with a variable o/p as the sensitivity on my ancient HP PC is quite high and I have to attenuate the signal to stop it overloading. If you Google your problem there will probably be a you tube how to do it video out there.
What do you mean by variable o/p?
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Old 28-08-2016, 19:49
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Many thanks for the reply.

I have done this in the past and the sound has come out quite distorted, like its recording at too high a volume. Would Audacity be able to control this?
Not if the distortion was due to the PC or A-D convertor input being overloaded. If you are using the headphone socket of a portable player just turn the players volume down. Another alternative is an inexpensive mixer with a digital USB output. Suggest you read the Audacity tutorials as a primer, you may think it is all too complex. It took me some time to master Audacity, I was the same age as you at the time and I learnt by trial and error, you will have to do the same.

Perhaps something like this may be useful but do your research and shop around.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-3...2410569&sr=1-3

If quality isn't paramount there are several devices like this available.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Handheld-Po...assette+player
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Old 28-08-2016, 21:19
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Many thanks for the reply.

I have done this in the past and the sound has come out quite distorted, like its recording at too high a volume. Would Audacity be able to control this?
If you plugged a line level source into the microphone input on the PC then you will get overload and distortion and Audacity is unlikely to be able to do much if anything about it.

Microphones produce a very small output voltage compared to line level devices such as a cassette player or radio tuner for example. Thus they need a lot more amplification to bring that level up to the same sort of voltage as a line source. If you feed a line level source into a mic input you overload the amplifier leading to distortion.

That is why you need to ensure the PC has a line level input or you use an external soundcard with line level inputs such as the one I linked to above. On PC soundcards the convention is for the line in to be coloured blue and mic red.

The other problem with mic inputs is they tend to be mono so you end up recording just the left input rather than left and right.
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Old 28-08-2016, 22:19
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What do you mean by variable o/p?
Variable output I think.
Basically, you want to be able to control the signal coming in which can be a mixture of the output and input levels. Or preferably output at max or min which means only one variable to adjust.
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Old 28-08-2016, 22:46
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I had a similar problem,needing to transfer vinyl,disks and cassettes to mp3,so that they could be played on more modern equipment,and as my audio stuff was on it's way out and very old,took the plunge and bought a cheap music centre which did the job with no need for audacity.Now I have the ability to play all my old music in the car,through my bluray player and the mini music centre which my wife uses!!
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Old 28-08-2016, 22:46
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I would agree with what people have been saying, using Audacity is probably the cheapest way. You'll need to buy the connecting cable which will be a minijack at the PC end which goes into the line-in (usually coloured blue), and a jack plug to match whatever output your cassette player has at the other, quite often this will be called the aux output, or you could try the headphone output.

Audacity is a free download from the net, it isn't difficult to learn, experiment with it to see what gives best results.
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Old 29-08-2016, 08:00
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So in summary, these two products are probably what I need?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-3...2410569&sr=1-3

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AGPtek%C2%A...assette+to+mp3
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Old 29-08-2016, 08:25
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The main problem I found with the USB Portable Cassette player is that the drive mechanism can be a bit weak which means that tapes that are tight play at a variable speed.

TBH unless the tapes are very rare or personal recordings I wouldn't bother digitising them.

The only ones I did were Kids of Fame cassettes that were rare and not available as CDs or Mp3s.

The best USB Cassette digitiser I had was from Aldi and was a stand alone device that could digitise to a USB Stick at variable mp3 rates. But again tape speed was a problem with old tapes.

The Tevion Cassette Converter was the stand alone device from Aldi.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TEVION-CASS.../dp/B00IIRUAZC
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Old 29-08-2016, 10:30
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No.

One or the other, or the USB soundcard I linked to above. But not both. If you buy the USB cassette player you don't need the mixer. If you buy the mixer or soundcard you don't need that cassette player.

The mixer/soundcard would be used with a conventional Hi-Fi or walkman type cassette deck. The mixer/soundcard act as the interface between cassette machine and computer. The USB cassette player plugs direct to the computer so doesn't need any additional equipment.
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Old 29-08-2016, 10:47
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No.

One or the other, or the USB soundcard I linked to above. But not both. If you buy the USB cassette player you don't need the mixer. If you buy the mixer or soundcard you don't need that cassette player.
The mixer seems rather overkill, for little purpose - you just need a USB 'sound card' such as this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-U...eywords=ufo202

There are two versions, this one includes a switchable phono preamp so you can convert records as well as tapes.

I've been using one for years, mainly to give improved sound quality (in and out) compared to built-in sound cards.
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Old 29-08-2016, 11:06
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The mixer seems rather overkill, for little purpose - you just need a USB 'sound card' such as this one:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-U...eywords=ufo202

There are two versions, this one includes a switchable phono preamp so you can convert records as well as tapes.

I've been using one for years, mainly to give improved sound quality (in and out) compared to built-in sound cards.
May I point the Honourable Gentleman to the reply I made earlier (post 4)

I agree the mixer may be a tad over the top for what the OP requires. And if you have no experience of using such a device, even one as simple as the Xenyx 302, then it could just get in the way of achieving what the OP wants.
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Old 29-08-2016, 11:20
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Not a lot of help but just had to post this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVoSQP2yUYA
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Old 29-08-2016, 11:48
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Your responses guys have been fantastic, many thanks.

So a further summary.

I have a tape deck connected to the below product:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-U...eywords=ufo202

which connects to my PC.

My tapes are very personal to myself so this system will reduce distortion? As in the past I did about 20 cassettes and the sound was pretty bad connected by cable direct to the PC.
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Old 29-08-2016, 11:54
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The only reason I suggested the mixer was concerns about overloading as we have no idea what source he will be using. I feed my HiFi tape output via a home made attenuator in to the line input of an old PC which works fine (the i/p overloads without the attenuator). Home made mods such as this are fine for an engineer such as myself to make but probably out of the question for the o/p. Although I worked in broadcasting, as a man in his late 50s at the time, I found Audacity difficult at first to master although the tutorials may have improved since then. Simple things such as mp3 conversion are not included, you either download the optional LAME encoder or convert in iTunes or something similar. It is easy for young people brought up on computers to think that programmes such as Audacity are easy, for the o/p I have a feeling this won't be so.

I see that while I was typing the o/p has/may have purchased the Behringer A-D converter which I was going to buy myself for my Mac but as the old HP PC is still going haven't done so far.
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Old 29-08-2016, 12:30
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Your responses guys have been fantastic, many thanks.

So a further summary.

I have a tape deck connected to the below product:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-U...eywords=ufo202

which connects to my PC.

My tapes are very personal to myself so this system will reduce distortion? As in the past I did about 20 cassettes and the sound was pretty bad connected by cable direct to the PC.
It all depends on where the distortion is coming from. If it is on the original tapes then there is very little, if anything, that can be done about it. If it was caused by overloading the input of the PC, for example using the mic input instead of the line input, then the Behringer unit should resolve that.

The Behringer is a surprisingly decent little box, especially for the money. In fact a lot of Behringer kit is good value for money. I had a predecessor of that unit that came free with a small Behringer mixer and gave it a try not really expecting much. But was pleasantly surprised by just how well it performed.
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Old 29-08-2016, 12:57
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It all depends on where the distortion is coming from. If it is on the original tapes then there is very little, if anything, that can be done about it. If it was caused by overloading the input of the PC, for example using the mic input instead of the line input, then the Behringer unit should resolve that.

The Behringer is a surprisingly decent little box, especially for the money. In fact a lot of Behringer kit is good value for money. I had a predecessor of that unit that came free with a small Behringer mixer and gave it a try not really expecting much. But was pleasantly surprised by just how well it performed.

The distortion was definitely from the PC. The cassette when played independently sounded fine but when I had recorded it, it sounded awful!
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Old 29-08-2016, 13:37
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The distortion was definitely from the PC. The cassette when played independently sounded fine but when I had recorded it, it sounded awful!
In that case it seems you were overloading the PC input. Either by using the mic input or a very sensitive line input. The Behringer unit should be OK as it can take a reasonably high signal on it's inputs according to the specs.

One word of warning, make sure the switch is in the LINE position not the PHONO position or you will really find out what distortion means
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Old 29-08-2016, 14:09
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Do I need red + black/white cables with connectors both ends to link cassette player and the gizmo?
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Old 29-08-2016, 14:17
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Do I need red + black/white cables with connectors both ends to link cassette player and the gizmo?
The Behringer unit uses phono (or sometimes called RCA) sockets for the audio in/out connections. If the cassette player has the same type of sockets then you will need a lead such as this

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....16K0QRYSVL.jpg

Which I suspect is what you mean.
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