Just a thought with all the talk of manipulation ,
Twitter and Facebook fan base where "followers" can determine the result and of course cross promotion by Viacom which also shows Geordie shore and Ex on the beech on their other channels.

The US system would at least mean that the behaviour of housemates would be critical

and I think eg Helen Wood and Bear both would have been evicted on the second week.

What do you think?

Sounds good to me!

The problem through the eyes of C5 etc is the loss of revenue that this would cause.

The partial remedy would be to get the viewers to vote on certain things, such as:
1) The next task
2) Housemates chosen for secret tasks
3) punishments for rule breaks

And any other thing they can think of.

Yes loss of revenue would be a problem they realised this when lateysha was evicted in the other bb

It would never work as people link to have some involvement in shows like this and if you take out the public voting aspect where is that involvment gone??

It's like I've said the lack of public involvement is why the UK version of Survivor only lasted two seasons and was then magically transformed into I'm A Celeb

Yes the but I wonder is advertising revenue more important - I'm sure more people watch than vote but Unclemanifestor could have the solution and it would give public involvement.

this would never work.

I would like to see it but Channel 5 are so ghetto that they rely on phone votes.

No - never

BB UK always has and always must have public voting

Without it, its not real BB - the overseas BB's without public voting are not the same and lack what makes ours different and better.

It's not really a solution, you end up getting other problems like sheep voting, very petty attitudes in the house and sucking up to the HoH. Giving more power to some HMs isn't necessarily good.

They can solve the public vote version (don't care about CCB) by having live feed and letting viewers decide more than the producer's manipulation. Having better and more competitive tasks (giving immunity to winner) would also help.

They will never do that as the revenue from telephone votes would dry up.

How's this for an alternative. The public nominate and the HM's evict.

The only thing is BB producers could edit depending on who they wanted nominated
BUT
at least the housemates could evict someone they dislike.

If nothing changes we will have reality stars moving from one show to another giving a performance and advertising the other shows they are on - that's not Big Brother that's just cross promotion but I guess that's why Viacom bought channel 5.

No. I love BBUS/Canada format but it wouldn't go down well here at all.

Most people wouldn't like it.

I wish they took 70% of the BB US version/system but try work in a way to keep the public voting system going. But as someone has said above, that may not work with the type of viewers BB/Ch5 wants, but it sure would be up the alley of those who enjoyed the early BB versions.

Maybe when the voting slows down here, changing to the US format would increase the money.

Yes, now that will be the best of both worlds, Revenue would still be made, viewer interaction stay's and the game planning, tactical shenanigans and back stabbing parts from BB US will remain.

They'd need to change the whole show pretty much. They'd have to cast different people, more of Gina, Dexter, Andy and Jason, less of the ditzy model types. But I'd like to see it, maybe for one of the Celeb series at least seeing as they have two.

In the US one they've had "care packages" that are public voted, they could use that to get some revenue back. These care packages get better as the weeks go on, for example the first two were a "never not" pass so that they were never a "have-not" (they can't eat properly, they got slop and sleep on crap beds) and the second was that you could void two eviction votes, but then there a super safety where they were immune for the week and then a co HOH where they were a second head of household and could make a nomination themselves and of course were immune. They also could have a public vote in plae of the veto ceremony. I'd just love to see it happen at least once to try it.

A few years ago I would be dead set against that but now I figure why not. We don't really decide anyway given the very skewed edit they put out.

But they wouldn't do it because 1 they'd lose the revenue and 2 viewers might want to know why there is a huge disparity between the edit (ie what THEY want to promote) and HMs decisions.

I think they're rubbing their hands that they got away with such blatant cross promotion and we'll get more of the same in future.

Would lead to all the best and most entertaining HMs being given the boot which is not good. For instance Bear would have been kicked out early on and we would have had to suffer with the rest of them kissing the Americans backsides the rest of the time.

The US version is a mess now, and the latest season was crap.

We would have the like of Sam and Katie in the final with that system

Still so much animosity (and possibly xenophobia) towards the US format I see.

Oh well ...

Ironic post.

Bear is exactly the reason to implement the idea. His early eviction would have made the series far far better, which would have happened if the housemates got to choose their evictee.

Your post highlights the contrasting views of the general public, one side is the new school, manufactured drama, reality types and social media hype. The other side is the old school, natural progression of relationships and interactions between a cross-section of society.

Personally I prefer the latter, but I feel that BB needs to find a new channel (and production team) before it can regain its former glory.
Have BB on channel 5 for the Reality type show and have 'Older Brother' on a different channel, which would be closer to its channel4 roots.

Maybe, a total change, with it not being on terrestrial TV, having it on NetFlix or something (obviously under a different name to avoid copyright and all that jazz).
Paid subscriptions for 24/7 live feed.


Netflix, feel free to contact me regarding my idea (along with further changes). I am happy to work for/with you to make it happen...

To me it's not so much which "villain" or controversial housemates from this series of CBB would not last, there would be too many tactical play, strenuous tasks, and political moves for all that shininghans from the likes of Bear that viewers ended up hating or liking by defult of nothing else. The producers (if they was decent) would manipulate the direction of the show to more tactics than "profile buildng" that BB UK does. (maybe this would not work for a celeb addition of BB).

Last seasons 3rd runner up of BB US (Vanessa) was not exactly a nice or likable person but her tactics and politictical moves meant she was able to last to the end. And the producers always finds a way to make sure some of the the evicted housemates play their part in the final.

I don't like the American way. A public vote is always better. There is nothing to stop BBUK being top of it's game again. They just have to eliminate totally this scripted reality crap it has descended into. The Jason/ Charlie "storyline" was one of the most cringeworthy totally obvious scripted reality crap ever. Then CBB starts and the Bear saga begins. Utter dross.

BBAU had a public vote, eviction nights were very exciting, and the entire thing was produced to an incredible degree. The year Tim Dormer won it was probably the best BB I have ever seen anywhere......it was utter perfection. The tasks were fantastic....some of them so simple in concept and yet so brilliant. The save and replace aspect was there, and the voting booth was genius. There was backstabbing, strategies, tears, the works, but NOTHING offensive... they didn't even swear !!! It's currently on a break with rumours that it's coming back again next year. Thats the one I will be hooked on !

Latyesha's brutal eviction was the watercooler moment of civvy BB we haven't had in years. More of that? Every week. **** it. Yes please. Let's give it a go at least.