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Will soaps end up on Netflix?
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BadRomance
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by drogdaz:
“I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix actually started making original soaps, or revived a long gone soap like Dynasty or something. I think it world work, episodes could be released weekly in an omnibus edition to allow binge watching.
I read an article in some Irish publication that TV3 was close to doing a deal with a streaming provider, I think it was Netflix, that would stream Red Rock but I think it might have fallen through.”

Did TV3 suffer after losing Corrie and Emmerdale?
soap-lea
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“Er, rebuild the set? ”

where? the space is used by hollyoaks for hollyoaks sets!

are you also kicking the real life residents of brookside close out of their homes ?
Noxy
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“where? the space is used by hollyoaks for hollyoaks sets!

are you also kicking the real life residents of brookside close out of their homes ?”

WTF? They can rebuild the set somewhere else!
soap-lea
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“WTF? They can rebuild the set somewhere else!”

Scotland? Majorca?

wouldn't be brookside then would it
Noxy
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“Scotland? Majorca?

wouldn't be brookside then would it ”

I obviously meant elsewhere in Liverpool. Are you always this dim or is it just tonight?
Scrabbler
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Danny_Francis:
“There was speculation of reviving Brookside and putting it on Netflix, if not I wouldn't mind old episodes of Brookside instead. It's a possibility I could only really see Hollyoaks moving to Netflix if there was a chance of it though”

I just googled Brookside and Netflix and it just seemed to be the speculation of the creator and not by Netflix.

From Netflixs perspective, if they did want a soap they would be better of starting from scratch rather then resurrecting a cancelled show.

I know there are die hard fans on here that would love Brookie to be resurrected, but can that be said by the general public as a whole.

Netflix see resurrecting Gilmore Girls, a show that was cancelled in the states over nine years ago. However, its popularity over there is what has brought back the resurrection. You don't really see Brookie being referenced much. Even most of the stars seem to have vanished into nowhere.
soap-lea
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“I obviously meant elsewhere in Liverpool. Are you always this dim or is it just tonight?”

yes because there will be lots of vacant filming lots for them to use.

oh and never mind the actual costs or planning permission or anything else

always dim, I am rather stupid didnt you know
Scrabbler
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“Er, rebuild the set? ”

That would take a lot of commitment and investment, without the production team being sure that it would be a success so it's unlikely to happen.
soap-lea
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“I just googled Brookside and Netflix and it just seemed to be the speculation of the creator and not by Netflix.

From Netflixs perspective, if they did want a soap they would be better of starting from scratch rather then resurrecting a cancelled show.

I know there are die hard fans on here that would love Brookie to be resurrected, but can that be said by the general public as a whole.

Netflix see resurrecting Gilmore Girls, a show that was cancelled in the states over nine years ago. However, its popularity over there is what has brought back the resurrection. You don't really see Brookie being referenced much. Even most of the stars seem to have vanished into nowhere.”



they are all in cyronics chambers waiting on brookie being revived

Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“That would take a lot of commitment and investment, without the production team being sure that it would be a success so it's unlikely to happen.”

are you dim too?
Noxy
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“yes because there will be lots of vacant filming lots for them to use.

oh and never mind the actual costs or planning permission or anything else

always dim, I am rather stupid didnt you know”

You do know they can purpose build sets in and around production studios, right?
Scrabbler
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“they are all in cyronics chambers waiting on brookie being revived



are you dim too? ”

Incredibly so.
Scrabbler
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“You do know they can purpose build sets in and around production studios, right?”

Out of interest, how often does that happen these days?
0...0
28-08-2016
Netflix and Phil!!!
CPW4EVER
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by drogdaz:
“I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix actually started making original soaps, or revived a long gone soap like Dynasty or something. I think it world work, episodes could be released weekly in an omnibus edition to allow binge watching.
I read an article in some Irish publication that TV3 was close to doing a deal with a streaming provider, I think it was Netflix, that would stream Red Rock but I think it might have fallen through.”

Red Rock streams on Amazon Prime in the US. I'd imagine if they were going to stream in Ireland and the UK (aside from catchup on 3 Player and iPlayer) they'd probably go with Amazon too.

Netflix original programming is in it's infancy but their programme slate is growing from original drama to original comedy to documentary to talk shows like Chelsea Handler's so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch that they'd expand into other areas of programming like soaps or reality. The problem with doing a soap that it'd be a big investment and would have to be one that appeals to all of Netflix's markets. Trying to find the right mix would be hard as traditionally, UK and Aussie soaps weren't hugely popular in the US while US daytime soaps are dying out in their own country and were never huge in the UK while the South American telenovela style was never huge outside of Latin America and the US. Unless they did different soaps for different regions.
Ben96
28-08-2016
What with EE building a new set, Corrie extending to 6 episodes next year, and Emmerdale adding a seventh episode for the summer for the second year running, It looks like they are all commited for the future, and I think that will be on TV. However, if soaps did move online (whether it be Neflix or something else ) I'd hazzard a guess at it being in 15 - 20 years time.
Noxy
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“Out of interest, how often does that happen these days?”

Well Red Rock in Ireland has a purpose built set on some lot in Dublin. It was TV3's first ever original soap opera and they commissioned it because they lost Corrie and Emmerdale to UTV Ireland. That would have been expensive and with no guarantees, but luckily Red Rock has been a hit.
Noxy
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ben96:
“What with EE building a new set, Corrie extending to 6 episodes next year, and Emmerdale adding a seventh episode for the summer for the second year running, It looks like they are all commited for the future, and I think that will be on TV. However, if soaps did move online (whether it be Neflix or something else ) I'd hazzard a guess at it being in 15 - 20 years time.”

Depends if any original soap operas appear on Netflix. If they do and are a hit, that's going to have an impact on the TV soaps. 15-20 years though I think is realistic. At the moment, soaps get better ratings in their time slot than other type of programming. The day other genres do better in those slots, soap's days on TV are numbered.
soap-lea
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“Well Red Rock in Ireland has a purpose built set on some lot in Dublin. It was TV3's first ever original soap opera and they commissioned it because they lost Corrie and Emmerdale to UTV Ireland. That would have been expensive and with no guarantees, but luckily Red Rock has been a hit.”

Red Rock is filmed at an existing studio. you are suggesting building a new one 🙄🙄🙄
Noxy
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“Red Rock is filmed at an existing studio. you are suggesting building a new one 🙄🙄🙄”

Yes, but the sets themselves are original/were converted etc. And Corrie recently built a new set, EastEnders is still in the process of doing so.
Scrabbler
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“Yes, but the sets themselves are original/were converted etc. And Corrie recently built a new set, EastEnders is still in the process of doing so.”

But Corrie and EE are established shows. Rebuilding the whole of Brookside would be expensive and risky.

Shows such as Shameless, HollyOaks and Family Affairs didn't build sets until long after they were established and two of those have now been cancelled. They used existing locations first.

I find it unlikely that any UK productions would go the lengths of building an entire set these days.
soap-lea
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“Yes, but the sets themselves are original/were converted etc. And Corrie recently built a new set, EastEnders is still in the process of doing so.”

remember when you called me dim?

was I not saying the existing studio space and sets are now used by hollyoaks (redesigned of course)

that is why I asked where you plannd for it to be filmed.

they would need a studio, sets, locations, production staff etc.

going back and utilising sets is a lot cheaper than starting completely from scratch
Noxy
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“remember when you called me dim?

was I not saying the existing studio space and sets are now used by hollyoaks (redesigned of course)

that is why I asked where you plannd for it to be filmed.

they would need a studio, sets, locations, production staff etc.

going back and utilising sets is a lot cheaper than starting completely from scratch”

Yes for a TV soap, but Netflix is different. Advertisers may fund the set construction etc. so it's more profitable. And if the show can be sold to other countries fairly early on, that can also help.
soap-lea
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“Yes for a TV soap, but Netflix is different. Advertisers may fund the set construction etc. so it's more profitable. And if the show can be sold to other countries fairly early on, that can also help.”

they would have to build a studio to put the set in
Scrabbler
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“Yes for a TV soap, but Netflix is different. Advertisers may fund the set construction etc. so it's more profitable. And if the show can be sold to other countries fairly early on, that can also help.”

Netflix doesn't have adverts.

If it did have a soap, it would need to offer something different than what the tv based soaps offer. Netflix original programs are used to entice new subscribers.
drogdaz
28-08-2016
Originally Posted by BadRomance:
“Did TV3 suffer after losing Corrie and Emmerdale?”

Haha TV3 has been suffering for years, it's car crash tv, Red Rock is the only good show on it. Everything else is daytime studio shows, old channel 5 "documentaries" from about 10 years ago or else just a simulcast of Big Brother and X-Factor, on at the same time as their UK showing, yet TV3 forget that people in Ireland have access to British channels

But to answer your question, yeah, they suffered big time. They were their two highest rated shows. The 7pm slot is now taken up with a chat show similar to This Morning, creatively called "The Seven O'Clock Show"
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