And more Christians are put in prison so it's not helping them much when they get in front of the judge.
Why aren't more atheists committing crimes?
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Originally Posted by bluecr0:
“We'd only have one page threads and the popcorn makers would go out of business then Richard
”
“We'd only have one page threads and the popcorn makers would go out of business then Richard
”
I hope you enjoyed your popcorn. I'm allergic.
Originally Posted by fastzombie:
“It actually demonstrates he was incapable of it once. ”
“It actually demonstrates he was incapable of it once. ”
So not always.
Originally Posted by fastzombie:
“He may well be a violent thug, I don't know, but the system works in that way to take into account previous history and character, not favour the religious.
IIRC I remember you have often argued that justice should be restorative not punative. Is that something the religious should be exempt from too.”
“He may well be a violent thug, I don't know, but the system works in that way to take into account previous history and character, not favour the religious.
IIRC I remember you have often argued that justice should be restorative not punative. Is that something the religious should be exempt from too.”
As I said to bolly
Originally Posted by Stiffy78:
“I never even mentioned Cherie Blair or the sentence she gave him.
The only thing I was questioning was your (bolly's) interpretation that he was a pillar of the community.”
“I never even mentioned Cherie Blair or the sentence she gave him.
The only thing I was questioning was your (bolly's) interpretation that he was a pillar of the community.”
I said nothing at all about what his punishment should be.
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“I hope you enjoyed your popcorn. I'm allergic.”
“I hope you enjoyed your popcorn. I'm allergic.
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Maybe you should get those monks to pray over some popcorn and fill it with intention.
Or you could read here about a stunning experiment of intent affecting matter:
http://gizadeathstar.com/2016/07/psy...it-experiment/
http://gizadeathstar.com/2016/07/psy...it-experiment/
Originally Posted by Stiffy78:
“So not always.
As I said to bolly
I said nothing at all about what his punishment should be.”
“So not always.
As I said to bolly
I said nothing at all about what his punishment should be.”
You did seem to be questioning using someone's past behavior as a guide though,
The alternative is judges having no discretion with sentencing.
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“You did seem to be questioning using someone's past behavior as a guide though,
The alternative is judges having no discretion with sentencing.”
“You did seem to be questioning using someone's past behavior as a guide though,
The alternative is judges having no discretion with sentencing.”
I was questioning your judgement that he was a pillar of the community based on him being described as devout. As far as I know you're not Cherie Blair or indeed anybody with a responsibility for handing down sentences.
Originally Posted by Stiffy78:
“I was questioning your judgement that he was a pillar of the community based on him being described as devout. As far as I know you're not Cherie Blair or indeed anybody with a responsibility for handing down sentences.”
“I was questioning your judgement that he was a pillar of the community based on him being described as devout. As far as I know you're not Cherie Blair or indeed anybody with a responsibility for handing down sentences.”
Yes and as I said that's what the definition and synonyms make me think of:
Having a deep commitment
Reverent, God fearing, sincere, wholehearted, righteous, saintly
That's what it makes me think of.
Now maybe to you, it's something negative.
Originally Posted by Richard46:
“Good job I am law abiding (and chair of the local community Police committee) or as a tattooed heathen I would get short shift in court.”
“Good job I am law abiding (and chair of the local community Police committee) or as a tattooed heathen I would get short shift in court.”
The truth is that being the chair of the community Police committee would probably help you a great deal , if you got into legal trouble.
Although the judge would not say, I'm giving Richard a suspended sentence because he's on the police committee and I got a good report on him.
I just spoke to a woman who will have her case dismissed because of her serious attitude in court, whereas the three before he got harsh sentences for sneering at the judge.
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“Yes and as I said that's what the definition and synonyms make me think of:
Having a deep commitment
Reverent, God fearing, sincere, wholehearted, righteous, saintly
That's what it makes me think of.
Now maybe to you, it's something negative.”
“Yes and as I said that's what the definition and synonyms make me think of:
Having a deep commitment
Reverent, God fearing, sincere, wholehearted, righteous, saintly
That's what it makes me think of.
Now maybe to you, it's something negative.
”
Neither negative or positive. Just irrelevant to how I'd feel about someone if they broke my jaw in an atm queue.
Originally Posted by Stiffy78:
“Neither negative or positive. Just irrelevant to how I'd feel about someone if they broke my jaw in an atm queue.”
“Neither negative or positive. Just irrelevant to how I'd feel about someone if they broke my jaw in an atm queue.”
My last question would be to my attacker would be.......are you a believer?
Originally Posted by Stiffy78:
“Neither negative or positive. Just irrelevant to how I'd feel about someone if they broke my jaw in an atm queue.”
“Neither negative or positive. Just irrelevant to how I'd feel about someone if they broke my jaw in an atm queue.”
It's not about how you would feel about him though.
It's about what the judge thinks about whether he can benefit from two years' supervision.
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“It's not about how you would feel about him though.
It's about what the judge thinks about whether he can benefit from two years' supervision.”
“It's not about how you would feel about him though.
It's about what the judge thinks about whether he can benefit from two years' supervision.”
What do you feel about him?
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“What do you feel about him?”
“What do you feel about him?”
I can only judge from what I read, but if he took responsibility for what he did, didn't have prior charges and had remorse, then a sentence within the guidelines wasn't out of line.
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“I can only judge from what I read, but if he took responsibility for what he did, didn't have prior charges and had remorse, then a sentence within the guidelines wasn't out of line.”
“I can only judge from what I read, but if he took responsibility for what he did, didn't have prior charges and had remorse, then a sentence within the guidelines wasn't out of line.”
But what would you feel about him, sitting at home, wanting to get out cash, but feeling to scared to leave the house?
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“But what would you feel about him, sitting at home, wanting to get out cash, but feeling to scared to leave the house?”
“But what would you feel about him, sitting at home, wanting to get out cash, but feeling to scared to leave the house?”
Who is sitting at home scared to get out cash?
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“Who is sitting at home scared to get out cash?”
“Who is sitting at home scared to get out cash?”
I was responding to a post......I am not sitting at home personally.....well I am, and apparently butting in to a conversation.....sorry.
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“The truth is that being the chair of the community Police committee would probably help you a great deal , if you got into legal trouble.
Although the judge would not say, I'm giving Richard a suspended sentence because he's on the police committee and I got a good report on him.
I just spoke to a woman who will have her case dismissed because of her serious attitude in court, whereas the three before he got harsh sentences for sneering at the judge.”
“The truth is that being the chair of the community Police committee would probably help you a great deal , if you got into legal trouble.
Although the judge would not say, I'm giving Richard a suspended sentence because he's on the police committee and I got a good report on him.
I just spoke to a woman who will have her case dismissed because of her serious attitude in court, whereas the three before he got harsh sentences for sneering at the judge.”
So in the case of the three before, did the judge tell them their sentences will be harsher for sneering? Or did he/she have a private word with you afterwards? Or was it what the serious woman told you?
Originally Posted by archiver:
“So in the case of the three before, did the judge tell them their sentences will be harsher for sneering? Or did he/she have a private word with you afterwards? Or was it what the serious woman told you?”
“So in the case of the three before, did the judge tell them their sentences will be harsher for sneering? Or did he/she have a private word with you afterwards? Or was it what the serious woman told you?”
It was what the woman described. The sneery one got a harsh sentence for first offense and the judge remarked on it. He didn't have to say it was 'because of' the sneering.
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“It was what the woman described. The sneery one got a harsh sentence for first offense and the judge remarked on it. He didn't have to say it was 'because of' the sneering.”
“It was what the woman described. The sneery one got a harsh sentence for first offense and the judge remarked on it. He didn't have to say it was 'because of' the sneering.”
I have not kept up with previous posts, but, that made me laugh out loud.....
Originally Posted by bollywood:
“It was what the woman described. The sneery one got a harsh sentence for first offense and the judge remarked on it. He didn't have to say it was 'because of' the sneering.”
“It was what the woman described. The sneery one got a harsh sentence for first offense and the judge remarked on it. He didn't have to say it was 'because of' the sneering.”
So it's sneersay then really.
The vast majority of serious criminals in this country at atheists but they are not aggressive atheists
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No I don't have any reason to doubt the woman because I've seen this occur myself.
It shows that judges can make subjective decisions based on what they perceive.
Originally Posted by archiver:
“So it's sneersay then really.”
“So it's sneersay then really.
”
No I don't have any reason to doubt the woman because I've seen this occur myself.
It shows that judges can make subjective decisions based on what they perceive.
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“Perception is not factual........ask a colour blind person to perceive the colour of blood.”
“Perception is not factual........ask a colour blind person to perceive the colour of blood.”
Doesn't mean a thing. There's a bandwidth of radiation in the visible part of the spectrum which most agree looks red. The fact that some can't perceive differences between shades the same way as others, doesn't say much about the 'factual' nature of perception.
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