Prisons are full of believers .

Not all found 'god' in prison

Many re-offend after finding 'god'

The few studies done on this show believers commit more crimes and justify more crimes because of their faith. Some crimes aren't even considered crimes but are a necessity in the faith.

Religious people commit more murders too. Most gangs are religious for example. The drugs trade is primarily sourced from religious people.....

http://www.brin.ac.uk/2011/religion-...nd-wales-2010/

That vast 32% right?

The majority are religious.

One Muslim is in prison for committing fraud against a vulnerable elderly lady. He should have his religious rights taken away in my view, since a genuine belief in God would surely prevent you from targeting vulnerable elderly?

Regarding the first bit, can you explain that a bit? A lot of wealth in the Middle East where religion is paramount.

I'd like to think that people wouldn't need a religious upbringing to know right from wrong and that certain things are unacceptable.

Far more poverty in the middle east though. A tiny fraction are uber wealthy.

And they exploit the religion for their own gain anyway, like anyone with money and faith and power tends to. Hence why it should be removed from all aspects of public life to prevent such abuses in the future. But thats another thread.

Unfortunately it tends to work, in some cases having a religion gets you out of prison all together.

Cherie Blair 'spared violent criminal from prison because he was religious'

Its a good demonstration of the discrimination none believers face.

Would the same "reasoning" apply to devout Muslims?

Yet faith allows many to justify there crimes. I mean Catholicism allows you do as you please as long as you confess. Wheres the responsibility in it all?

Talking of "confession" and the law ....

http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/...ild-abuse.html

I don't know if its the same in the UK, but its shocking that the church (with its long history of abuse) think it can deal with sexual abuse of children "in house".

And here how it was dealt with.

lol.. absolutely, youd have thought someone would have noticed this anomaly by now.

These are pretty profound statements. The first two points are provisional on the integrity of their claims in the first place.

The other two you're going to have to expand on because frankly you seem to be drawing a direct link between religious belief and crime.

Common sense, the rarest element on the planet.

How interesting. I thought that the complaint was rejected and it was not being looked into.

bizarre

Of course.

Prisons are full of believers. - As per the link I posted earlier, 32% of the population are non religious. Im sure you can do the math.

Not all find god in Prison - Why of course, see above.

Many re-offend after finding god - Have you seen re-offending rates for UK prisons?

Study in the US found those that believe in heaven are more likely to commit crimes. One of only a few such studies.

I would suggest starting on US gangs. MS13, Mafia (various), Bloods, Crips etc. All consider themselves religious. Mexico has serious gang problems as does Brazil. Highly religious countries. Lets not bother mentioning the middle east shall we. It would make it grossly unfair.

If you need links because google doesnt work where you are, just ask. But I am sure you are capable of checking this for yourself.

I know that you like to defend your religion, but you really need to provide facts before you bash a large group of people to do it.

It's probably because being in prison is more connected to poverty and race than other things.

And that a large number of minorities are Protestant.

Putting down a religious choice can just mean that is the religion they were raised in. Not that they practice or go to church or mosque.

From my observation a lot of criminals drift away from religion when they are committing crimes and go back to church when they're turning their lives around.

Religion also helps lower crime in communities.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4384046

No, it doesn't.

The concept of divine forgiveness is based on the principle that you are truly sorry for the sin committed. Not sorry you got caught, or sorry it turned around to bite you on the arse. Sorry for the act and it's ramifications, especially on others. It also doesn't mean you'll be spared the legal penalty, if any.

The idea is that God will know if you're truly sorry in your heart, not just walking the walk. I should know we had this drummed into us by our teachers at school.

Fine and when you've finished with Sulla I've got a long list of others here.

http://www.brin.ac.uk/2011/religion-...nd-wales-2010/

http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...-us-prisoners/

Clearly what some hoped people would believe.

I suppose religion doesn't get in the way of thinking.

Just an example of how religion allows people to justify their criminal actions. One of many.

Oh no please fz not a L I S T.

(Joke for very old users here)