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Corrie - Are theses lines racist?
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silversox
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“Some people can see racism in anything. They tend to actually be the most racist.”

I thoroughly agree. This was proven to me by a couple of so-called friends who are very PC conscious. They haven't spoken to me via social media or any other way ever since I posted a joke about a golliwog. FFS - like someone else said - get a grip. It's people like them who appear to be racist and make things much worse than they really are. That comment on CS was a completely innocent remark.
James_Langan
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Sort of, but for me, racism hits you straight in the face - if it's such a tenuous connection that you have to question whether it is or isn't, then that's probably because there was no intent - the crucial factor.

Of course it doesn't help that the definition of racism appears these days to have been very much widened by our now ridiculously overly PC society, to the extent that white people are barely allowed to even mention black people in conversation without being accused, at very least, of 'casual racism'. It's all about intent, and well worth remembering the actual definition of racism :

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

Anybody think any of that relates even remotely to poor dumb Eva's comment?”

If that definition is the benchmark in your vicinity then no harm has been done. At least nobody disagreed that every vicar be banned from every tavern in the land.
Belligerence
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Me too & clever the way Eva qualified I with saying, "Haven't a clue what that means it were summat me Mum used to say!!"

Those whole Salon scenes with the three actresses were excellent in both writing & acting for me!! ”

Yes, but Maria lashing out at Audreh was uncalled for!
albiex
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by silversox:
“I thoroughly agree. This was proven to me by a couple of so-called friends who are very PC conscious. They haven't spoken to me via social media or any other way ever since I posted a joke about a golliwog. FFS - like someone else said - get a grip. It's people like them who appear to be racist and make things much worse than they really are. That comment on CS was a completely innocent remark. ”

I had a golliwog as a kid. I also had a selection of Little Black Sambo books. The golliwog was just a toy, the books were just books. Racism was never mentioned or thought of. I guess it wasn't so fashionable in those days when people were just people and nobody cared about skin colour (or lack of it as in the case of most British). Was Lewis Carroll Aliceist?
owl61uk
31-08-2016
Seriously why is this even given the time of day.

No it was not racist, it was a throwaway line an attempt at trying to be clever/funny. The programme was called Roots, it was a reference to the character in a TV show,.

Eva's character is supposed to be a dumb blonde, well thats at least how it comes across, I doubt she could even spell racism, and her comment had not racist intent.

Some people really need to get over themselves and stop finding offence in almost evrything that is said. GET A LIFE
Harlowe
31-08-2016
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ocial-facebook

According to the dailyfail its had 300 complaints to ofcom
Autumn-Dreams
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Yoshi Fan:
“To me, that's the equivalent of saying something like "I've got feet colder than James Nesbitt." or "He's breaking bad so much, even Walter White would be horrified." It was just a cultural reference using a play on words relating to the show.”

Exactly. I agree. It was just a play on words!

Originally Posted by silversox:
“I thoroughly agree. This was proven to me by a couple of so-called friends who are very PC conscious. They haven't spoken to me via social media or any other way ever since I posted a joke about a golliwog. FFS - like someone else said - get a grip. It's people like them who appear to be racist and make things much worse than they really are. That comment on CS was a completely innocent remark. ”

How pathetic. You are better off without precious special snowflakes like this. Are they young perchance? The millennials are usually very touchy about stuff like this!

Originally Posted by owl61uk:
“Seriously why is this even given the time of day.

No it was not racist, it was a throwaway line an attempt at trying to be clever/funny. The programme was called Roots, it was a reference to the character in a TV show,.

Eva's character is supposed to be a dumb blonde, well that's at least how it comes across, I doubt she could even spell racism, and her comment had not racist intent.

Some people really need to get over themselves and stop finding offence in almost everything that is said. GET A LIFE”

Agree. Who the fluff DOES that? Who complains about stuff like this. What a bunch of losers!

Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ocial-facebook

According to the dailyfail its had 300 complaints to ofcom ”

Is that all? And it's making the news. LOL.
Demizdeeroolz
31-08-2016
I'm black, was around when Roots was aired. I watched Mondays episode and I wasn't offended. If anything it will make people watch Roots. Eva's lines weren't a pun about slavery or colour.
That silly girl needs to get a life.
Cheshirecheese
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Orchideam:
“Corrie - Are theses lines racist? No, and anyone who sees 'racist' in that needs to get a grip.”

They really do need to get a life if they find this racist. For goodness sake with all that is going on in the world grow up!
bornfree
31-08-2016
I wouldn't say its racist but totally inappropriate as it came out like the writers couldn't think of anything witty for Eva to say.
bornfree
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by silversox:
“I thoroughly agree. This was proven to me by a couple of so-called friends who are very PC conscious. They haven't spoken to me via social media or any other way ever since I posted a joke about a golliwog. FFS - like someone else said - get a grip. It's people like them who appear to be racist and make things much worse than they really are. That comment on CS was a completely innocent remark. ”

3 people took me off when someone, not even me made a joke about Robertsons Jam lid. The funny thing is these people talk to me, drink with me and ring me regularly.
little-monster
31-08-2016
I don't think people are aware of what racism really is these days. A slight comment and you are branded a bigot.

If people want to see an example of recent racism, they should look up the awful situation with the actress from the new ghostbusters film. That was pure and vile racism all over. Poor woman
Oldnjaded
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by James_Langan:
“If that definition is the benchmark in your vicinity then no harm has been done. At least nobody disagreed that every vicar be banned from every tavern in the land.”

In 'my vicinity'? Someone in my village didn't make it up, it's the definition in the dictionary, presumably available to all vicinities.

My point was simply that the word 'racism', like so many other words, is grossly misused these days.
Roger_Peters
31-08-2016
I think people have forgotten about 'context'.
sorcha_healy27
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“I don't think people are aware of what racism really is these days. A slight comment and you are branded a bigot.

If people want to see an example of recent racism, they should look up the awful situation with the actress from the new ghostbusters film. That was pure and vile racism all over. Poor woman”

Exactly Lm.

That thread in showbiz where many are pretty much justifying what happened to Leslie is appalling
Mark_Washingto1
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“I don't think people are aware of what racism really is these days. A slight comment and you are branded a bigot.

If people want to see an example of recent racism, they should look up the awful situation with the actress from the new ghostbusters film. That was pure and vile racism all over. Poor woman”

Well I think we all need to be conscience of what we say and even though we might not have bad intent sometimes it is interpreted that way and we have a responsibility to apologize and make sure those affected understand that we meant no harm.

As for the actress from Ghostbusters I have my own issues with her as I think she portrays an extremely negative stereotype of black women, the roles she plays reminds me of how black people were portrayed in movies in the early 20th century. That being said a lot of the stuff done to her on social media was not deserved.
Roger_Peters
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Well I think we all need to be conscience of what we say and even though we might not have bad intent sometimes it is interpreted that way and we have a responsibility to apologize and make sure those affected understand that we meant no harm.

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I disagree!

I believe there is a breed of people who actively look for something to complain about, whether it be racist or sexist or any other bloody ist!

I have no time for these people at all.

It is all about context! Words are meaningless unless taken in context.
Mark_Washingto1
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Roger_Peters:
“I disagree!

I believe there is a breed of people who actively look for something to complain about, whether it be racist or sexist or any other bloody ist!

I have no time for these people at all.

It is all about context! Words are meaningless unless taken in context.”

That is partly true some people do just look for something to complain about but there are cases as well where people say offensive things without realizing they are offending
sorcha_healy27
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Well I think we all need to be conscience of what we say and even though we might not have bad intent sometimes it is interpreted that way and we have a responsibility to apologize and make sure those affected understand that we meant no harm.

As for the actress from Ghostbusters I have my own issues with her as I think she portrays an extremely negative stereotype of black women, the roles she plays reminds me of how black people were portrayed in movies in the early 20th century. That being said a lot of the stuff done to her on social media was not deserved.”

She was the best actress on ghostbusters and the character was not a black stereotype.

She happened to be a normal citizen
Mark_Washingto1
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“She was the best actress on ghostbusters and the character was not a black stereotype.

She happened to be a normal citizen”

IDK, what saw in the trailer, the way she acts on SNL and in those State Farm commercials she does come off as a stereotype to me. Now she could be the best actress in the world but its hard for me to take someone seriously who has no problem playing such a negative stereotype.
danyell
31-08-2016
It kind of seemed racist on Corrie's part. Considering Eva said 'no idea who he is, it's just something my mum used to say. It's like they didn't want the audience to think Eva is racist because they knew it sounded racist.
James_Langan
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“In 'my vicinity'? Someone in my village didn't make it up, it's the definition in the dictionary, presumably available to all vicinities.

My point was simply that the word 'racism', like so many other words, is grossly misused these days.”

Now you're really nitpicking on words. Would it sound better if I say thats the definition of racism in the country you live in. What's the the situation with the language police in the country you reside in. They must be kept busy just monitoring this forum.
Aura101
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“Check out there shares people are not happy about it, but does beg the question are we getting too PC.

I don't see it as racist either but then I'm white and this sort of line wouldn't affect me, but to a black person it could be highly insensitive.”

'Are we getting too PC', I think we all know the answer to that one. Its getting beyond ridiculous now.
Janet43
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Maybe that is the case in the UK but like I said it would be interpreted completely different in the US. Words have different meanings in different countries, just think about it, you all call cigarettes fags and that is a gay slur here or what we consider dinner you guys call tea.”

The ghettos created in Poland during WW2 weren't racist. There were several - Polish Jews, homosexual men men. the physical and mentally disabled, Jehovah's Witnesses and other groups that didn't conform to his idea of social norms. They were either in ghettos or murdered.

People forget the original meaning of words and are too quick to shout "racist".

The reference in Corrie was just a play on words with no racist intentions except for those who want to see racism in everything. Normally people just find plays on words funny, clever or make them groan.
Janet43
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by CSFAN1999:
“Im Black and i didn't find that offensive at all”

Glad you have a sense of perspective and can take it as just a flippant play on words.
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