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Can't Pay or We'll take it away (Series 4 Part 2) |
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The police can take ages to turn up as there are frequently none available (after all, it's not an emergency) and they don't get priority (and rightly so) any more than a member of the he public who calls a non emergency.
Reminds me of the story of the man who saw someone breaking into his shed one night, called police to be told no one available to attend. Rings police back couple of minutes later and tells them not to bother attending as he's got his shotgun out and sorted it himself. Within minutes, police are there. |
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The police can take ages to turn up as there are frequently none available (after all, it's not an emergency) and they don't get priority (and rightly so) any more than a member of the he public who calls a non emergency.
Reminds me of the story of the man who saw someone breaking into his shed one night, called police to be told no one available to attend. Rings police back couple of minutes later and tells them not to bother attending as he's got his shotgun out and sorted it himself. Within minutes, police are there. |
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Pretty sure seizing items needed for work is illegal. The debtor should have let them take the van then sue the DCA ha.
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I CAN'T STAND this Scottish guy! Stuart McCrachan I think is his name. He's the most arrogant c@#t of the lot of them.
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I CAN'T STAND this Scottish guy! Stuart McCrachan I think is his name. He's the most arrogant c@#t of the lot of them.
![]() He could tone his attitude down a bit though. |
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Anyone who actively chooses a career as a debt collector, bailiff or 'enforcement agent' is basically a scumbag imho - arrogant gloating thugs who enjoy their work far far too much for my liking. I don't know how they sleep at night?
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I know its pretty much just scare tactics but if someone cannot pay and goods are actually removed, how can they justify charging 'storage' fees?!? Quote:
Anyone who actively chooses a career as a debt collector, bailiff or 'enforcement agent' is basically a scumbag imho - arrogant gloating thugs who enjoy their work far far too much for my liking. I don't know how they sleep at night?
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He is but when you're faced with people like this everyday you need to be firm and put the pressure on.
He could tone his attitude down a bit though. ![]()
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Anyone who actively chooses a career as a debt collector, bailiff or 'enforcement agent' is basically a scumbag imho - arrogant gloating thugs who enjoy their work far far too much for my liking. I don't know how they sleep at night?
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I sort of known what you mean, but "how they sleep at night" is probably by thinking of those who are owed money rightfully getting it back.
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Hmm, I suspect they care little for them as long as their wages are paid? (They've chosen a job where they get to confront people who are in a weak position. Not nice...)
But someone has to do it. |
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Not nice.
But someone has to do it. |
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Anyone who actively chooses a career as a debt collector, bailiff or 'enforcement agent' is basically a scumbag imho - arrogant gloating thugs who enjoy their work far far too much for my liking. I don't know how they sleep at night?
Indeed, you could ask "how do you sleep at night" to the people who owe £11k in unpaid rent, where do they get off in not paying rent and then acting all offended because someone comes knocking asking for the money? or to kick them out of the house they are not paying rent for? They are equally entitled to the label "scumbag" if we're throwing round insults. But I did feel for the guy who acted as a guarantor for his mate's rent, to be let down by your mate so badly must really sting. You could alter that old proverb "Neither a lender nor a borrower be..." to include "and absolutely no way ever sign up as a guarantor" |
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No, they are not really scumbags, although some of their tactics are a little scummy, but they are dealing with people who have avoided paying their debts for a long time, and the people they owe the money to have had to take the matter to the highest court in the land to get an order that enables them to get their money/property back by bailiff, who need to be aggressive as the people try to weasel out of their commitments once again.
Indeed, you could ask "how do you sleep at night" to the people who owe £11k in unpaid rent, where do they get off in not paying rent and then acting all offended because someone comes knocking asking for the money? or to kick them out of the house they are not paying rent for? They are equally entitled to the label "scumbag" if we're throwing round insults. But I did feel for the guy who acted as a guarantor for his mate's rent, to be let down by your mate so badly must really sting. You could alter that old proverb "Neither a lender nor a borrower be..." to include "and absolutely no way ever sign up as a guarantor" |
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I totally buy all that. But at some point in their training, there will come a day where it's explained to them that they will be coming across people with their backs to the wall, in desperate straits for all sorts of reasons? It's the ones who hear that who get a warm feeling of satisfaction (and oneupmanship?) creeping up their spines that would worry me - the 'I wuz only following orders' types (and we've seen some on this programme!). I'll be honest though - I did like the black guy. He displayed a level of respect and cordiality that others were sadly lacking in.
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Anyone who actively chooses a career as a debt collector, bailiff or 'enforcement agent' is basically a scumbag imho - arrogant gloating thugs who enjoy their work far far too much for my liking. I don't know how they sleep at night?
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Hmm, I suspect they care little for them as long as their wages are paid? (They've chosen a job where they get to confront people who are in a weak position. Not nice...)
There are some circumstances bailiffs can for entry such as re-possesion, magistrates etc to name a couple but most cases bailiffs can not force entry into residential properties, more people need to be aware of this. |
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No, they are not really scumbags, although some of their tactics are a little scummy, but they are dealing with people who have avoided paying their debts for a long time, and the people they owe the money to have had to take the matter to the highest court in the land to get an order that enables them to get their money/property back by bailiff, who need to be aggressive as the people try to weasel out of their commitments once again.
Indeed, you could ask "how do you sleep at night" to the people who owe £11k in unpaid rent, where do they get off in not paying rent and then acting all offended because someone comes knocking asking for the money? or to kick them out of the house they are not paying rent for? They are equally entitled to the label "scumbag" if we're throwing round insults. But I did feel for the guy who acted as a guarantor for his mate's rent, to be let down by your mate so badly must really sting. You could alter that old proverb "Neither a lender nor a borrower be..." to include "and absolutely no way ever sign up as a guarantor" |
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It's the people who use their children as emotional blackmail (Mr Smith in the bungalow) that infuriate me. 'You're upsetting the kids'. So take the kids elsewhere. They are nothing to do with the matter. Do they think the bailiffs will write off the debt cos they've got children?!
Also, in the matter of evictions, how can people be so naive as to think they can live somewhere rent free? When I rented I always made sure rent was a priority. |
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Why do people keep letting bailiffs into their homes for? never let them in.
There are some circumstances bailiffs can for entry such as re-possesion, magistrates etc to name a couple but most cases bailiffs can not force entry into residential properties, more people need to be aware of this. |
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I don't get all the dislike for the enforcers on here..
The people they visit all owe money, admittedly some are in a bad position and I do feel for them but when I see renters who haven't paid rent for ages or people who haven't paid suppliers and so on I get angry, I make it a matter of personal pride to always pay my bills, sometimes I have had to go without to get it done but I have always done it, all the enforcers do is make others do thesame |
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I don't get all the dislike for the enforcers on here..
The people they visit all owe money, admittedly some are in a bad position and I do feel for them but when I see renters who haven't paid rent for ages or people who haven't paid suppliers and so on I get angry, I make it a matter of personal pride to always pay my bills, sometimes I have had to go without to get it done but I have always done it, all the enforcers do is make others do the same |
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I don't get all the dislike for the enforcers on here..
The people they visit all owe money, admittedly some are in a bad position and I do feel for them but when I see renters who haven't paid rent for ages or people who haven't paid suppliers and so on I get angry, I make it a matter of personal pride to always pay my bills, sometimes I have had to go without to get it done but I have always done it, all the enforcers do is make others do thesame I suspect a lot on this show is played up for the cameras both by the bailiffs and debtors. |
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Why are some people against the bailiffs? Some of the money owed is quite substantial. Imagine you were owed thousands and it takes a long time to get to the point where a HCEO enforces the writ. Would you still be saying the HCEOs are scum bags?
The real scumbags are the ones that owe thousands to others and don't even make an attempt to pay a penny despite numerous letters about court cases and judgements etc. If there was no way to enforce these judgments people would just not bother paying any debts off and then what kind of society would that be? |
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