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Old 18-09-2016, 11:43
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I'll rephrase it then just for the bailiffs on here, it appeared that Dael forced his way past the old Asian guy in episode 1 of this season.
Like I said, do you really think they would allow themselves to be shown breaking the law?
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Old 18-09-2016, 12:01
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Like I said, do you really think they would allow themselves to be shown breaking the law?
Clearly Brian is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpGS9g_yACc
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Old 18-09-2016, 12:40
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I'll rephrase it then just for the bailiffs on here, it appeared that Dael forced his way past the old Asian guy in episode 1 of this season.
I don't think that's breaking the law. The enforcement officers have a legal right to enter property so long as they don't break in. If someone (especially the debtor) tries to physically stop them, they're the ones breaking the law.
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Old 18-09-2016, 13:17
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the only people in this show that are unpleasnt, hysterical, violent and confrontational are the debtors, the debt collectors are reasonable, calm, polite and professional.
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Old 18-09-2016, 13:26
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I don't think that's breaking the law. The enforcement officers have a legal right to enter property so long as they don't break in. If someone (especially the debtor) tries to physically stop them, they're the ones breaking the law.
Bailiffs can only enter a residential property via peaceful means aka unlocked door, open window (except for a repossesion order or magistrate court bailiffs these can break in) pushing past someone is not peaceful means.
Thinking about it though most of it is probably just played up for the cameras.
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Old 18-09-2016, 14:48
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the only people in this show that are unpleasnt, hysterical, violent and confrontational are the debtors, the debt collectors are reasonable, calm, polite and professional.
Spot on. That's exactly how I see it. Apart from the fact that Brian can sometimes be a bit antagonistic.

Don't see any wrong in the way any of the others act, though.
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Old 19-09-2016, 09:14
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Wow, that's really relevant. Driving without a seatbelt is not the same as forcing his way into a debtors house.

I don't see how this confirms your story.
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Old 19-09-2016, 12:18
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Wow, that's really relevant. Driving without a seatbelt is not the same as forcing his way into a debtors house.

I don't see how this confirms your story.
Are you Brian? Y ou posted about them not being seen to break the law, the video clearly shows Brian breaking the law twice no seatbelt and using a handheld device whilst driving.
But hey you continue to defend their actions if that's what makes you feel better.
Obviously not all bailiffs are dick heads most are quite decent if you co-operate with them.
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Old 19-09-2016, 12:43
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Are you Brian? Y ou posted about them not being seen to break the law, the video clearly shows Brian breaking the law twice no seatbelt and using a handheld device whilst driving.
But hey you continue to defend their actions if that's what makes you feel better.
Obviously not all bailiffs are dick heads most are quite decent if you co-operate with them.
Your point was about illegally gaining entry, not wearing a seatbelt. There is a huge difference between not wearing a seatbelt and breaking the law while executing their duties.
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Old 23-09-2016, 08:59
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Bit of a damp squib for Delroy & Son, the takeaway had done their homework & pulled the oldest trick in the book, ie changing the name, so they didnt get much there, & the Car dealer had moved to his mates house, & no doubt stashed his goods elsewhere, so they got zilch out of him, despite all their big talk.
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Old 23-09-2016, 12:09
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Bit of a damp squib for Delroy & Son, the takeaway had done their homework & pulled the oldest trick in the book, ie changing the name, so they didnt get much there, & the Car dealer had moved to his mates house, & no doubt stashed his goods elsewhere, so they got zilch out of him, despite all their big talk.
Del and Dael were in the wrong too threatening at first to take his mates stuff they would of been sued to crap if they'd done that, although i can understand why they applied the pressure the way they did but it backfired as they got bugger all, couldn't of happened to a nicer duo.
I thought Paul and Steve were great again i like those two they seem really nice and understanding.
I can't recall seeing drama queen Brian this week.
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Old 23-09-2016, 12:27
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Are you Brian? Y ou posted about them not being seen to break the law, the video clearly shows Brian breaking the law twice no seatbelt and using a handheld device whilst driving.
Some drivers are exempt from the seat belt law, baillifs aren't one of them.

however trivia fact fans, a driver who is reversing doesn't need to wear one.
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Old 23-09-2016, 12:56
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Del and Dael were in the wrong too threatening at first to take his mates stuff they would of been sued to crap if they'd done that, although i can understand why they applied the pressure the way they did but it backfired as they got bugger all, couldn't of happened to a nicer duo.
I thought Paul and Steve were great again i like those two they seem really nice and understanding.
I can't recall seeing drama queen Brian this week.
Surely they can take anything from the house unless the person can prove it's theirs? Otherwise everyone would just turn round and say nothing was theirs.
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Old 23-09-2016, 14:26
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Surely they can take anything from the house unless the person can prove it's theirs? Otherwise everyone would just turn round and say nothing was theirs.
Possibly yes but it was obvious the house was his friends and common sense would say the goods were most likely the homeowners/tenants.
However they were indeed correct in asking for reciepts but that is a silly requests how many of us keep reciepts after a 3 year period (i know i'm odd keeping reciepts for 3 years lol).
Me personally i would of asked the so called friend to sort it our or pack up and leave my house as no real friend would bring the crap of bailiffs upon a friend.
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Old 23-09-2016, 15:21
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Possibly yes but it was obvious the house was his friends and common sense would say the goods were most likely the homeowners/tenants.
However they were indeed correct in asking for reciepts but that is a silly requests how many of us keep reciepts after a 3 year period (i know i'm odd keeping reciepts for 3 years lol).
Me personally i would of asked the so called friend to sort it our or pack up and leave my house as no real friend would bring the crap of bailiffs upon a friend.
Why was it obvious that it was his friends house?
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Old 23-09-2016, 15:56
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Why was it obvious that it was his friends house?
Because his friend had told them.
Do you actually watch the show?
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Old 23-09-2016, 16:01
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... I thought Paul and Steve were great again i like those two they seem really nice and understanding.
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High Court Enforcement Officers generally don't mind Clients dragging their feet because they charge for attendance by the hour.
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Old 24-09-2016, 10:13
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Because his friend had told them.
Do you actually watch the show?
Does that make it obvious? No of course it doesn't.

They are dealing with debtors who lie about everything, why would they believe it was someone elses house and even if it was why would they think everything in it is someone elses?

Do you actually watch the show?
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Old 24-09-2016, 10:49
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Because his friend had told them.
Do you actually watch the show?
It was pretty obvious it was his friends house
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Old 24-09-2016, 11:25
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Does that make it obvious? No of course it doesn't.

They are dealing with debtors who lie about everything, why would they believe it was someone elses house and even if it was why would they think everything in it is someone elses?

Do you actually watch the show?
Obviously i pay more attention than you do to it it was obvious it was his friends house, ok his friend should shown the bailiffs a tenancy agreement or morgage document, maybe he did who knows but it was crystal clear it was his friends house.
Del has always been the big i am and like brian goes crying to the police if someone stands their ground looks like dels son is going to be just as bad too.
I'm starting to think that you possibly work for this bailiff firm, maybe this is why you think the sun shines out of their backsides?
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Old 24-09-2016, 14:33
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Del's son appears to have one hell of an attitude problem.

They're dealing with people at probably one of their worst days of their lives - bailiffs showing up and he's not old or mature enough to be able to handle the situation. Instead he goes in all gung-ho and constantly criticises and tries to be belittle the people he's collecting from.

I noticed it several times in both the takeaway and the guys home. It doesn't matter how many times they say to someone it needs to be paid today - if they don't have the money you can't keep saying it.

You look at all these younger bailiffs then look at Paul and Steve. They've seen people in hard times and they don't have to, they're sympathetic and ask questions about the people. They're just doing their job however come across as incredibly caring.

Del (who is all brawn anyway) his son and McCracken are the three worst ones on there. All go in shooting first and ask questions later. Other than the son, he's just too young and immature to do this type of job.
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Old 24-09-2016, 19:38
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Del's son appears to have one hell of an attitude problem.

They're dealing with people at probably one of their worst days of their lives - bailiffs showing up and he's not old or mature enough to be able to handle the situation. Instead he goes in all gung-ho and constantly criticises and tries to be belittle the people he's collecting from.

I noticed it several times in both the takeaway and the guys home. It doesn't matter how many times they say to someone it needs to be paid today - if they don't have the money you can't keep saying it.

You look at all these younger bailiffs then look at Paul and Steve. They've seen people in hard times and they don't have to, they're sympathetic and ask questions about the people. They're just doing their job however come across as incredibly caring.

Del (who is all brawn anyway) his son and McCracken are the three worst ones on there. All go in shooting first and ask questions later. Other than the son, he's just too young and immature to do this type of job.
I believe that Del's son and McCraken have left the show/ job
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Old 24-09-2016, 19:40
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Del's son appears to have one hell of an attitude problem.

They're dealing with people at probably one of their worst days of their lives - bailiffs showing up and he's not old or mature enough to be able to handle the situation. Instead he goes in all gung-ho and constantly criticises and tries to be belittle the people he's collecting from.

I noticed it several times in both the takeaway and the guys home. It doesn't matter how many times they say to someone it needs to be paid today - if they don't have the money you can't keep saying it.

You look at all these younger bailiffs then look at Paul and Steve. They've seen people in hard times and they don't have to, they're sympathetic and ask questions about the people. They're just doing their job however come across as incredibly caring.

Del (who is all brawn anyway) his son and McCracken are the three worst ones on there. All go in shooting first and ask questions later. Other than the son, he's just too young and immature to do this type of job.
I believe that Del's Son and McCracken have left and gone onto other things.
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Old 24-09-2016, 19:57
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I believe that Del's Son and McCracken have left and gone onto other things.
Source?
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Old 24-09-2016, 20:15
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Del's son appears to have one hell of an attitude problem.

They're dealing with people at probably one of their worst days of their lives - bailiffs showing up and he's not old or mature enough to be able to handle the situation. Instead he goes in all gung-ho and constantly criticises and tries to be belittle the people he's collecting from.

I noticed it several times in both the takeaway and the guys home. It doesn't matter how many times they say to someone it needs to be paid today - if they don't have the money you can't keep saying it.

You look at all these younger bailiffs then look at Paul and Steve. They've seen people in hard times and they don't have to, they're sympathetic and ask questions about the people. They're just doing their job however come across as incredibly caring.

Del (who is all brawn anyway) his son and McCracken are the three worst ones on there. All go in shooting first and ask questions later. Other than the son, he's just too young and immature to do this type of job.
Paul and Steve deal with evictions, not collecting money. Different things altogether. Those being evicted can't really be awkward and hide anything. There is little they can do about it.
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