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Are the new iplayer licence rules about to ruin my Saturday evenings? |
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Are the new iplayer licence rules about to ruin my Saturday evenings?
I work every Saturday night and, due to the quietness of the building, I am, on occassion able to watch some of my favourite telly programmes. Strictly, of course, is a staple.
This morning, I've just been reminded of the fact that a TV licence is now needed to watch iplayer. Now, I have my own TV licence at home - does this mean I am entitled to watch on a communal computer at work? As I understand it, you do not have to enter any personal details before you start watching. You simply press the "I have a TV licence" option and iplayer opens up...so I am just wondering how would they individualise a communal system? Detector vans are on the prowl so does my home licence cover me or not? I sincerely hope so because I will be gutted if I cannot join in the forum fun live this year...
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I work every Saturday night and, due to the quietness of the building, I am, on occassion able to watch some of my favourite telly programmes. Strictly, of course, is a staple.
This morning, I've just been reminded of the fact that a TV licence is now needed to watch iplayer. Now, I have my own TV licence at home - does this mean I am entitled to watch on a communal computer at work? As I understand it, you do not have to enter any personal details before you start watching. You simply press the "I have a TV licence" option and iplayer opens up. Detector vans are on the prowl so does my home licence cover me or not? I sincerely hope so because I will be gutted if I cannot join in the forum fun live this year... ![]() |
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Bit in Bold- That isn't anything new, that has happened for a few weeks.
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Does your workplace not have a TV licence? Most offices I have worked in have one to cover the whole company.
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Bit in Bold- That isn't anything new, that has happened for a few weeks.
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Does your workplace not have a TV licence? Most offices I have worked in have one to cover the whole company.
I wonder how it would work if I took in my own laptop?
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I thought you always did need a licence if you watched live on the internet and the changes now apply to watching on catch-up ![]() Laptop at work: FAQs-TV licensing Quote:
If you’re using a mobile device powered solely by its own internal batteries – like a smartphone, tablet or laptop – you will be covered by your home’s TV Licence, wherever you’re using it in the UK and Channel Islands.
However, if you’re away from home and plug one of these devices into the mains and use it to watch or record live TV programmes on any channel or device, or to download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer, you need to be covered by a separate TV Licence at that address (unless you’re in a vehicle or vessel like a train, car or boat). It’s the law. |
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Not 100% sure but I would imagine so. Will need to check.
I wonder how it would work if I took in my own laptop? ![]() If your work has a licence it should cover everyone using the premises. |
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I thought you always did need a licence if you watched live on the internet and the changes now apply to watching on catch-up
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As I understand it if you take in your own device you are covered by your home licence as long as you don't plug it in to the mains!
. Re plugging into mains, how does it apply if you want to charge your device?
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Re plugging into mains, how does it apply if you want to charge your device? ![]() )
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You could be right fridge - oh, I'm so confused right now!
Thanks both - this is all really useful. Re plugging into mains, how does it apply if you want to charge your device? ![]()
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I think it would be particularly hard for anyone to prove whether your machine was running on mains instead of batteries while you were watching iPlayer.
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Does your workplace not have a TV licence? Most offices I have worked in have one to cover the whole company.
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I think it would be particularly hard for anyone to prove whether your machine was running on mains instead of batteries while you were watching iPlayer.
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Your post reminds me of a faux pas of one of my former employers. During the 1990s I worked for one of the large cable companies. We had about 500 employees, many were located in extensive offices with TVs every where. Every office had a TV and departments like customer services had many TVs, so that every member of staff could see a screen from their desk. We carried on that way for 3 years until one day it dawned on someone that we didn't have and had never had a TV licence. Whoops.
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Detector vans not real and the secret technology doesn't exist. Nobody has ever been convicted on the basis of secret technology, because they would have to explain in detail how they obtained their evidence and covert surveillance is not permissible evidence in court
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Detector vans not real and the secret technology doesn't exist. Nobody has ever been convicted on the basis of secret technology, because they would have to explain in detail how they obtained their evidence and covert surveillance is not permissible evidence in court
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Just a note this discussion is fully being covered in the " Broadcasting" forum, and really isn't SCD related. It's getting very removed from Strictly.
Any questions on IPlayer and enforcement are fully discussed in the a Broadcasting forum threads and responses are very quick. Quick " Bottom line" If you follow the rules, and have a LF when required, then there is no further debate about scaremongering or investigations, or detection. If people are " honest" and pay when they should, the rest is hypothesis The discussion only relates to those who are willing to break the law. |
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Just a note this discussion is fully being covered in the " Broadcasting" forum, and really isn't SCD related. It's getting very removed from Strictly.
Any questions on IPlayer and enforcement are fully discussed in the a Broadcasting forum threads and responses are very quick. Quick " Bottom line" If you follow the rules, and have a LF when required, then there is no further debate about scaremongering or investigations, or detection. If people are " honest" and pay when they should, the rest is hypothesis The discussion only relates to those who are willing to break the law. (see below for case in point)Quote:
And it ant broke, it's working very well! These hypothetical threads are quite annoying, it's a great show, leave it as it is.
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I don't know if this is of any help to anyone its a peice from an article in todays DM - about the rules remaining the same for Students - link to that attached. I just thought this piece seem interesting.
PUBLIC TRUSTED TO OBEY LAW The TV licensing authorities say they will trust the public to obey the new law and the main enforcement method will be warning letters. iPlayer users will see a pop-up message asking if they have a licence and saying: ‘You need one to watch any BBC programme on iPlayer – live, catch-up or on-demand. It’s the law.’ They will have options to confirm they are licensed, find out more or buy a licence online. Viewers risk prosecution and a fine of up to £1,000 if they download or watch programmes on iPlayer without a licence. A TV Licensing spokesman said: ‘We expect most people will simply obey the law. We are not going to use mass surveillance, we are not going to ask internet providers for IP addresses. We will use existing enforcement processes.’ Media commentators cast doubt on whether anyone would be prosecuted. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cence-fee.html |
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