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ED - Have we lost too many big characters?
I can't help but feeling like ED has lost way too many iconic, long running characters over the last couple of years, we've lost Donna Windsor, Katie Sugden, Val Pollard, Betty Eagleton, Andy Sugden and Ashley Thomas (in the near future), as well as Edna and Alan, which obviously couldn't be helped.
And in return the new characters replacing them are Jermaine, Pierce and Ronnie etc who I can't imagine staying for long and becoming emmerdale legends. |
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I can't help but feeling like ED has lost way too many iconic, long running characters over the last couple of years, we've lost Donna Windsor, Katie Sugden, Val Pollard, Betty Eagleton, Andy Sugden and Ashley Thomas (in the near future), as well as Edna and Alan, which obviously couldn't be helped.
And in return the new characters replacing them are Jermaine, Pierce and Ronnie etc who I can't imagine staying for long and becoming emmerdale legends. |
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I can't help but feeling like ED has lost way too many iconic, long running characters over the last couple of years, we've lost Donna Windsor, Katie Sugden, Val Pollard, Betty Eagleton, Andy Sugden and Ashley Thomas (in the near future), as well as Edna and Alan, which obviously couldn't be helped.
And in return the new characters replacing them are Jermaine, Pierce and Ronnie etc who I can't imagine staying for long and becoming emmerdale legends. |
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Killing Donna off was the biggest mistake, Ross actually made her character quite interesting. They had massive potential, IMO.
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Every soap loses big characters. It's a shame but you get over it. Like i say time and time again, a soap shouldn't be summed up or be subjective to one particular character or characters.
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Yeah I definitely agree Donna was the worst decision, very pointless to bring back such an iconic character with so much history and links, just to kill her off.
The only character that ever left a real hole when they left was Kim Tate. |
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Killing Donna off was the biggest mistake, Ross actually made her character quite interesting. They had massive potential, IMO.
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Every soap loses big characters. It's a shame but you get over it. Like i say time and time again, a soap shouldn't be summed up or be subjective to one particular character or characters.
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I'm not bothered about long-term characters getting killed off.
I don't see why they should ever be exempt from dying. Good on Emmerdale for not leaving the door open for some of them. |
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I'm not bothered about long-term characters getting killed off.
I don't see why they should ever be exempt from dying. Good on Emmerdale for not leaving the door open for some of them.
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I'm not bothered about long-term characters getting killed off.
I don't see why they should ever be exempt from dying. Good on Emmerdale for not leaving the door open for some of them. ![]() (I'll have forgotten they ever existed within a couple of months anyway).
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I'm not bothered about long-term characters getting killed off.
I don't see why they should ever be exempt from dying. Good on Emmerdale for not leaving the door open for some of them. ![]() ED has taken a bit of a hit recently. I miss Edna and Betty most, as well as Vile Val, who made me cry with laughter. I'll also miss Andy. Characters always come and go on soaps, but it is a bit strange that so many of the new characters just feel like guests, brought in for one story. I feel like Emma, Pierce, Jermaine and Ronnie will probably all be gone soon. Holly we know about. Possibly (please) Joanie as well. Not sure about Robin of Sherwood, surely he can't last long. The only potentially long-term new character we've had for ages is Carly. |
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Every soap loses big characters. It's a shame but you get over it. Like i say time and time again, a soap shouldn't be summed up or be subjective to one particular character or characters.
To answer the question though, no. Emmerdale has lost a lot of big/iconic characters, but the ITV soaps have quite a long serving cast. A lot of them have been there for years. EastEnders on the other hand has lost way too many in the last 5/6 years. The result is that it now feels like a different show, which is why I find it hard to enjoy it as much as I used to. |
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I'm not bothered about long-term characters getting killed off.
I don't see why they should ever be exempt from dying. Good on Emmerdale for not leaving the door open for some of them. |
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Yes and no. Not much they can do if the actors want to leave. And killing them off is more effective sometimes...no loose ends. But yeah some of them are big losses...Val, Andy...and Ashley will be a huge one. Characters with a long history and lots of links to other characters are the most unfortunate. The real goal though, needs to be making sure you have or create enough new pillar characters to replace them. If a show ever becomes a revolving door where everyone only stays a few years, I think thats when you decline dismally. You really do need those major families, major characters, who are stable and somewhat permanent.
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Agreed. Once a character is leaving, for whatever reason, it's far more entertaining to see them die than watch them drive off in the back of a taxi.
![]() (I'll have forgotten they ever existed within a couple of months anyway). ![]() |
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Desperately duller than dull Dan is not even worth an exit in a Taxi. He should go to buy a pint of milk one day and just never be seen or heard of ever again.
Except then I'd be constantly fretting in case he came back again at some point.
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Most of those mentioned I don't even miss tbh apart from Edna, and I will miss Ashley. One character I would like to see leave permanently in a box is that insufferable murderous prick Robert
. I've even come to a point where I can tolerate Aaron on his own or in scenes with the Dingles, but once he's in scenes with Robert again I want to club them both with a mace. Sooner he buggers off the better.
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People say they don't, but they do. You have your long running cast members who the audience are familiar with, and once they go, the show can feel completely different.
To answer the question though, no. Emmerdale has lost a lot of big/iconic characters, but the ITV soaps have quite a long serving cast. A lot of them have been there for years. EastEnders on the other hand has lost way too many in the last 5/6 years. The result is that it now feels like a different show, which is why I find it hard to enjoy it as much as I used to. In terms of the question, I think it's good to kill long term characters off. Having too many makes a show grow stale and prevents new legends from emerging. |
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Most of those mentioned I don't even miss tbh apart from Edna, and I will miss Ashley. One character I would like to see leave permanently in a box is that insufferable murderous prick Robert
. I've even come to a point where I can tolerate Aaron on his own or in scenes with the Dingles, but once he's in scenes with Robert again I want to club them both with a mace. Sooner he buggers off the better.He's so smug and he annoys me more than anyone else in any scene he's in and has done since shortly after his arrival. Back on topic, I'm not overly worried, most of the long serving characters were stuck in ruts because they can't do anything too outlandish lest they lose viewer support. Mind you I'm quite a fan of nothing storylines and characters that don't ultimately serve a massive purpose for plot points but it's soapland now I suppose. I think Ashley will be a loss though, I think that was a poor decision. And I miss Edna too.
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nooo not get rid of robert... hes great!
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nooo not get rid of robert... hes great!
![]() I would like a few of the loathsome Dingles culled though |
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Most of those mentioned I don't even miss tbh apart from Edna, and I will miss Ashley. One character I would like to see leave permanently in a box is that insufferable murderous prick Robert
. I've even come to a point where I can tolerate Aaron on his own or in scenes with the Dingles, but once he's in scenes with Robert again I want to club them both with a mace. Sooner he buggers off the better.I also agree about Robert. It's been a strange turn of events, but I think I hate him even more than I do Aaron. Horrible character. |
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Katie was one of my most favourite characters, so I do miss her, but I soon get over the loss of even those characters I love.
Interesting, though nobody else seems to miss her her death had a bigger impact upon the village and provided more story material than the others mentioned in this thread.
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I am with you 100% on the Robert front.
He's so smug and he annoys me more than anyone else in any scene he's in and has done since shortly after his arrival. Back on topic, I'm not overly worried, most of the long serving characters were stuck in ruts because they can't do anything too outlandish lest they lose viewer support. Mind you I'm quite a fan of nothing storylines and characters that don't ultimately serve a massive purpose for plot points but it's soapland now I suppose. I think Ashley will be a loss though, I think that was a poor decision. And I miss Edna too. ![]() . How can he be so bothered about his brother being on the run when he himself killed said brother's wife ffs? He doesn't really gives a toss about Andy, he just wants to pounce on any excuse to make miserable a family he's bitter about for casting him out, cos in his twisted mind it's their fault not his . Horrible dreadful character, he's as bad Corrie's Tracy Barlow, who funnily enough is also a smug, gloating, pantomime acting seriously nasty piece of work who is all 'its ok for me to do anything I want to others, even kill them but how dare someone do something to me'![]() .
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Katie was one of my most favourite characters, so I do miss her, but I soon get over the loss of even those characters I love.
Interesting, though nobody else seems to miss her her death had a bigger impact upon the village and provided more story material than the others mentioned in this thread.I guess Adam and Victoria sort of fill that role now. |
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. I've even come to a point where I can tolerate Aaron on his own or in scenes with the Dingles, but once he's in scenes with Robert again I want to club them both with a mace. Sooner he buggers off the better.