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Let's get the dance training out in the open
I don't care personally, IMO the show needs celebs with different levels of dancing talent and ability. But I've read a lot about Kevin getting another ringer, so I'd like to hear if any of you know what dance training and experience the celebs have.
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As Will said in one interview, he went to ArtsEd for one term before winning Pop Idol. He does ballet and contemporary dance classes to keep fit. He was in Cabaret on stage but there was not much dancing for him in that.
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At this stage, it seems Kevin has a ringer if he gets paired with someone who is able to walk and breath at the same time
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As Will said in one interview, he went to ArtsEd for one term before winning Pop Idol. He does ballet and contemporary dance classes to keep fit. He was in Cabaret on stage but there was not much dancing for him in that.
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IMO the BBC should declare exactly how much training that each Celeb has had over the years including any Private one to one Training any of them may have had over the last few months. I remember some of the disgusting posts that were made on here about Natalie Gumede and about her previous training and this should help prevent that sort of Bile.
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IMO the BBC should declare exactly how much training that each Celeb has had over the years including any Private one to one Training any of them may have had over the last few months. I remember some of the disgusting posts that were made on here about Natalie Gumede and about her previous training and this should help prevent that sort of Bile.
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Gymnastics can also give someone an advantage, so it is not just about dance training.
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Gymnastics can also give someone an advantage, so it is not just about dance training.
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IMO the BBC should declare exactly how much training that each Celeb has had over the years including any Private one to one Training any of them may have had over the last few months. I remember some of the disgusting posts that were made on here about Natalie Gumede and about her previous training and this should help prevent that sort of Bile.
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Ed Balls has done a bit of line dancing!
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Gymnastics can also give someone an advantage, so it is not just about dance training.
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I agree, but I think most celebs have some sort of advantage going for them. Many people go frequently to aerobics lessons to stay fit etc. I would limit it to dance training though, getting lessons from a professional dancer in specific dances.
Will's had relationships with 2 professional dancers. Do you think that counts?
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Will's had relationships with 2 professional dancers. Do you think that counts? ![]()
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I don't care as long as that training is not in ballroom and latin
and the form of training in other styles is not to a high level |
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I don't care as long as that training is not in ballroom and latin
and the form of training in other styles is not to a high level If Lesley is any good I am waiting for the Anton haters to bring up the fact she did ballet when she was 5 years old - 65 years ago! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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At this stage, it seems Kevin has a ringer if he gets paired with someone who is able to walk and breath at the same time
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That's how I feel. Having a natural dance ability is as much an advantage as any former dance training. Being a musician is an advantage as they can cope with music with no words, some have struggled once they have no words in the music. Being an actor is an advantage as you can "act" the dance and also used to learning things. So many things that put people at an advantage compared to a few ballet/tap lessons they did as a kid.
If Leslie is any good I am waiting for the Anton haters to bring up the fact she did ballet when she was 5 years old - 65 years ago! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() : |
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I saw Lesley Joseph play Miss Hannigan in Annie on stage and it involved a fair bit of dancing and she was fantastic. That was about 15 years ago, but I'm excited by her.
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Lesley did ballet aged around 5 but we don't know how long for
Danny did some dancing about eight years ago Melvin was a dance teacher - https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...dance-teacher/ Laura does (or did) Irish dancing. Thought I also saw something somewhere about her doing tap. |
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At this stage, it seems Kevin has a ringer if he gets paired with someone who is able to walk and breath at the same time
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I honestly don't think getting it out in the open would help prevent the bile, because the hateful ones are going to spew their bile anyway, whether they feel they've been 'deceived' (and I use that word with the most inverted of commas) or not. That's internet trolls for you.
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I don't care as long as that training is not in ballroom and latin
and the form of training in other styles is not to a high level I'd always had mixed feelings about "ringers" before that, but it convinced me that, in order to have the most entertaining show, you do need to know in advance that at least some of the participants are going to produce reasonably executed, watchable routines. |
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I agree. I watch the German version and a couple of series ago it became clear very quickly that not only had none of the contestants had any previous dance training, but not one of them had any natural ability either. It made for pretty dire viewing.
I'd always had mixed feelings about "ringers" before that, but it convinced me that, in order to have the most entertaining show, you do need to know in advance that at least some of the participants are going to produce reasonably executed, watchable routines. |
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I honestly don't think getting it out in the open would help prevent the bile, because the hateful ones are going to spew their bile anyway, whether they feel they've been 'deceived' (and I use that word with the most inverted of commas) or not. That's internet trolls for you.
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Just think how boring it would be if everybody who enters Strictly as a contestant has no idea how to dance at all. Ed Balls said yesterday that he thinks it 'should be' about those who can't dance learning to dance.
Well, yes, maybe so. But he does have a new book out, so probably won't mind the extra visibility. And he did dabble in a bit of ballroom at university, so not a complete novice himself. If last year proves anything, it's the point that it's not just about being able to do the steps in something approaching the right order, or whether you attended dance lessons in the past. It's about talent, musicality, artistic interpretation, building relationships, working as a team and how the contestants learn to cope when they're way out of their comfort zone in the limelight every week, baring their souls in front of judges of varying credibility. We'll laugh at some, cringe at others, lose our tempers at the judging, be astounded by unexpected talent and artistry - there's something in there for everybody. I don't know who will win this year, and I haven't yet seen anyone that really catches my imagination like last year, but I do know that I do watch Strictly because I love dancing, and that enjoyment is vastly enhanced by seeing someone with exceptional talent doing it really well. Others may watch for different reasons, but that's mine. I don't think TPTB worry too much about whether or not people have 'previous' or not, they'll be looking for a variety of abilities and everybody brings something to the show. |
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