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Estrella Damm is probably one of my favourites, but it has to be ice cold.
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Estrella Damm is probably one of my favourites, but it has to be ice cold.
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San Miquel FTW
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I think any beer that has to be ice cold to drink probably isn't worth drinking.
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Equally though no lager is going to provide optimal satisfaction if too warm.
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Only 3 posts in before the beer snobs come out to play.
Lager comes from the German Lagern, meaning warehouse or storeroom, the "lagering" process is the time given for conditioning at low temperature to allow the flavour of the beer to develop. The longer the largering process the more the flavours develop in the beer. British larger typically has some of the shortest maturation lengths of any lager, hence the lack of flavour and the need to serve it at such low temperatures. The low temperature disguises the fact the lager is practially flavourless. As a CAMRA member and Real Ale drinker i have no problem at all with lager, however I do have a problem with the p*ss-poor "product" that is sold in the UK under the name. |
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True but 'ice cold' shouldn't be the optimal temperature.
I prefer bottled beer ice cold. It's a personal preference. |
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It is nothing to do with being a "beer snob" at all. 99% of lager sold in pubs and supermarkets in this country is a pale imitation of a true lager.
Lager comes from the German Lagern, meaning warehouse or storeroom, the "lagering" process is the time given for conditioning at low temperature to allow the flavour of the beer to develop. The longer the largering process the more the flavours develop in the beer. British larger typically has some of the shortest maturation lengths of any lager, hence the lack of flavour and the need to serve it at such low temperatures. The low temperature disguises the fact the lager is practially flavourless. As a CAMRA member and Real Ale drinker i have no problem at all with lager, however I do have a problem with the p*ss-poor "product" that is sold in the UK under the name. |
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It is nothing to do with being a "beer snob" at all. 99% of lager sold in pubs and supermarkets in this country is a pale imitation of a true lager.
Lager comes from the German Lagern, meaning warehouse or storeroom, the "lagering" process is the time given for conditioning at low temperature to allow the flavour of the beer to develop. The longer the largering process the more the flavours develop in the beer. British larger typically has some of the shortest maturation lengths of any lager, hence the lack of flavour and the need to serve it at such low temperatures. The low temperature disguises the fact the lager is practially flavourless. As a CAMRA member and Real Ale drinker i have no problem at all with lager, however I do have a problem with the p*ss-poor "product" that is sold in the UK under the name. Some wise cracker, in post 3, simply stated 'people still drink this rubbish'. This post couldn't have been more generalised if it tried and the post was completely pointless and added nothing to the thread. What you say above is true and I am equally dismissive of high street brands like Carling, Carlsberg and Fosters but I like to think that I am not ignorant enough to dismiss the entire category as a whole in the way this other poster did. |
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I do find it weird that some people do completely dismiss lager, yes, the "high street" brands are generally awful but there are some good lagers about and it's just as valid a style of beer as any other. I know we all have different tastes but I do find it quite hard to understand how someone could have a pint of something like Fosters or Carling and actually think "Mmm this tastes great!" To me it's not even that it really tastes bad, it's actually barely got any taste, it's just the epitome of bland.
I can use my wife as a lager quality barometer, when it comes to beer she only drinks lager (although I've got her to dabble in a wheat beer now and again), if she tries a lager and says "Yuk, it tastes like beer", then it's generally quite nice!
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I do find it weird that some people do completely dismiss lager, yes, the "high street" brands are generally awful but there are some good lagers about and it's just as valid a style of beer as any other. I know we all have different tastes but I do find it quite hard to understand how someone could have a pint of something like Fosters or Carling and actually think "Mmm this tastes great!" To me it's not even that it really tastes bad, it's actually barely got any taste, it's just the epitome of bland.
I can use my wife as a lager quality barometer, when it comes to beer she only drinks lager (although I've got her to dabble in a wheat beer now and again), if she tries a lager and says "Yuk, it tastes like beer", then it's generally quite nice! ![]() |
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I do find it weird that some people do completely dismiss lager, yes, the "high street" brands are generally awful but there are some good lagers about and it's just as valid a style of beer as any other. I know we all have different tastes but I do find it quite hard to understand how someone could have a pint of something like Fosters or Carling and actually think "Mmm this tastes great!" To me it's not even that it really tastes bad, it's actually barely got any taste, it's just the epitome of bland.
I can use my wife as a lager quality barometer, when it comes to beer she only drinks lager (although I've got her to dabble in a wheat beer now and again), if she tries a lager and says "Yuk, it tastes like beer", then it's generally quite nice! ![]() However visiting a country like Germany or Czech Republic opens up a whole new world of beers. Not just lagers but bocks, pilsners, wheat beers, etc. Last year my wife & I went to Croatia, and also visited Montenegro, and we found some really great lagers, especially the dark lagers. |
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Last year my wife & I went to Croatia, and also visited Montenegro, and we found some really great lagers, especially the dark lagers.
If you like beer hunting then you really should get yourself over to Poland where there is a fantastic beer scene with influences from all over Europe. Cheap too. |
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I'm quite partial to a dark lager once in a while but you almost never see them in the UK.
If you like beer hunting then you really should get yourself over to Poland where there is a fantastic beer scene with influences from all over Europe. Cheap too. |
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In terms of "beer hunting" I really want to go to the Copenhagen Beer Celebration. It's run by Mikkeller and they invite 80 of the best breweries from Europe and America. It's run over two days, each with two sessions. Each brewery brings two beers for each session. They're nearly always their most exclusive and rare beers or things specially made for the event. It's £50 a session but all your beer is included. I'd really want to go to all the sessions though and including accomodation, flights etc it'd be a pretty pricey weekend away!
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Plus of course the added cost of a new liver when you get home.
![]() Here's a review of this years on a blog that I follow. It does sound bloody great! https://beergeekblog.co.uk/2016/08/c...ebration-2016/ |
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Haha yeah quite probably!
Here's a review of this years on a blog that I follow. It does sound bloody great! https://beergeekblog.co.uk/2016/08/c...ebration-2016/ I like the idea of adding 116 beers to my Untappd in a weekend. |
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I'm quite partial to a dark lager once in a while but you almost never see them in the UK.
If you like beer hunting then you really should get yourself over to Poland where there is a fantastic beer scene with influences from all over Europe. Cheap too. |
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1) Peroni Nastro Azzurro
The rest in no particular order: Bitburger, Krombacher, Veltins (all these are in some Tesco's), Baltika (Wetherspoons) If you can find it in a specialist pub: Hacker Pschorr - gorgeous German beer. |
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It's £50 a session but all your beer is included. I'd really want to go to all the sessions though and including accomodation, flights etc it'd be a pretty pricey weekend away!
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My wife & I spent a week in Warsaw @ five years ago and really enjoyed it. You are right, it has a fantastic brewing history and there are some great bars to visit and beers to try.
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[quote=LostFool;84266635]Given the cost of a beer in Copenhagen, £50 a session isn't that bad.
I liked Warsaw (found some great microbrewery bars up by the University area) but Krakow was even better as it was more compact and Olde Worlde.[/QUOTE] Krakow is very much on our "to visit" list!
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Krakow is very much on our "to visit" list!
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1. Peroni
2. Staropramen 3. Asahi 4. Amstel or Coors |
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Augustiner Helles
Weihenstephaner Original Helles Budweiser Budvar Original/Dark |
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