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Old 24-09-2016, 12:13
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Old 15-10-2016, 03:33
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Estrella Damm is probably one of my favourites, but it has to be ice cold.
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Old 16-10-2016, 09:30
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Estrella Damm is probably one of my favourites, but it has to be ice cold.
I think any beer that has to be ice cold to drink probably isn't worth drinking.
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Old 16-10-2016, 18:19
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Old 16-10-2016, 19:17
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I think any beer that has to be ice cold to drink probably isn't worth drinking.
Equally though no lager is going to provide optimal satisfaction if too warm.
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:27
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Equally though no lager is going to provide optimal satisfaction if too warm.
True but 'ice cold' shouldn't be the optimal temperature.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:21
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Only 3 posts in before the beer snobs come out to play.
It is nothing to do with being a "beer snob" at all. 99% of lager sold in pubs and supermarkets in this country is a pale imitation of a true lager.

Lager comes from the German Lagern, meaning warehouse or storeroom, the "lagering" process is the time given for conditioning at low temperature to allow the flavour of the beer to develop. The longer the largering process the more the flavours develop in the beer.

British larger typically has some of the shortest maturation lengths of any lager, hence the lack of flavour and the need to serve it at such low temperatures. The low temperature disguises the fact the lager is practially flavourless.

As a CAMRA member and Real Ale drinker i have no problem at all with lager, however I do have a problem with the p*ss-poor "product" that is sold in the UK under the name.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:25
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True but 'ice cold' shouldn't be the optimal temperature.
It's fine when it's on tap. I have no issues with it when I'm in Spain, however, mostly in the U.K it's bottled, so I was referring to that.

I prefer bottled beer ice cold.

It's a personal preference.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:51
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It is nothing to do with being a "beer snob" at all. 99% of lager sold in pubs and supermarkets in this country is a pale imitation of a true lager.

Lager comes from the German Lagern, meaning warehouse or storeroom, the "lagering" process is the time given for conditioning at low temperature to allow the flavour of the beer to develop. The longer the largering process the more the flavours develop in the beer.

British larger typically has some of the shortest maturation lengths of any lager, hence the lack of flavour and the need to serve it at such low temperatures. The low temperature disguises the fact the lager is practially flavourless.

As a CAMRA member and Real Ale drinker i have no problem at all with lager, however I do have a problem with the p*ss-poor "product" that is sold in the UK under the name.
You've pretty much hit the nail on the head. There are some great Lagers about, just not the top selling ones. I believe the 4 top selling beers in the Uk are Stella, Carling, Budweiser and Fosters.
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Old 17-10-2016, 18:58
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It is nothing to do with being a "beer snob" at all. 99% of lager sold in pubs and supermarkets in this country is a pale imitation of a true lager.

Lager comes from the German Lagern, meaning warehouse or storeroom, the "lagering" process is the time given for conditioning at low temperature to allow the flavour of the beer to develop. The longer the largering process the more the flavours develop in the beer.

British larger typically has some of the shortest maturation lengths of any lager, hence the lack of flavour and the need to serve it at such low temperatures. The low temperature disguises the fact the lager is practially flavourless.

As a CAMRA member and Real Ale drinker i have no problem at all with lager, however I do have a problem with the p*ss-poor "product" that is sold in the UK under the name.
I actually agree with you, but it's a bit misleading quoting my post without also quoting the post that I was initially responding to.

Some wise cracker, in post 3, simply stated 'people still drink this rubbish'. This post couldn't have been more generalised if it tried and the post was completely pointless and added nothing to the thread.

What you say above is true and I am equally dismissive of high street brands like Carling, Carlsberg and Fosters but I like to think that I am not ignorant enough to dismiss the entire category as a whole in the way this other poster did.
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Old 18-10-2016, 08:12
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I do find it weird that some people do completely dismiss lager, yes, the "high street" brands are generally awful but there are some good lagers about and it's just as valid a style of beer as any other. I know we all have different tastes but I do find it quite hard to understand how someone could have a pint of something like Fosters or Carling and actually think "Mmm this tastes great!" To me it's not even that it really tastes bad, it's actually barely got any taste, it's just the epitome of bland.

I can use my wife as a lager quality barometer, when it comes to beer she only drinks lager (although I've got her to dabble in a wheat beer now and again), if she tries a lager and says "Yuk, it tastes like beer", then it's generally quite nice!
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Old 18-10-2016, 09:29
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I do find it weird that some people do completely dismiss lager, yes, the "high street" brands are generally awful but there are some good lagers about and it's just as valid a style of beer as any other. I know we all have different tastes but I do find it quite hard to understand how someone could have a pint of something like Fosters or Carling and actually think "Mmm this tastes great!" To me it's not even that it really tastes bad, it's actually barely got any taste, it's just the epitome of bland.

I can use my wife as a lager quality barometer, when it comes to beer she only drinks lager (although I've got her to dabble in a wheat beer now and again), if she tries a lager and says "Yuk, it tastes like beer", then it's generally quite nice!
Same here, my wife only drinks lager but I have managed to get her onto decent stuff like Brooklyn. I've even managed to get her to drink Goose Island IPA now as well!
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Old 18-10-2016, 09:41
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I do find it weird that some people do completely dismiss lager, yes, the "high street" brands are generally awful but there are some good lagers about and it's just as valid a style of beer as any other. I know we all have different tastes but I do find it quite hard to understand how someone could have a pint of something like Fosters or Carling and actually think "Mmm this tastes great!" To me it's not even that it really tastes bad, it's actually barely got any taste, it's just the epitome of bland.

I can use my wife as a lager quality barometer, when it comes to beer she only drinks lager (although I've got her to dabble in a wheat beer now and again), if she tries a lager and says "Yuk, it tastes like beer", then it's generally quite nice!
The problem is that is what most people in this country know as "lager".

However visiting a country like Germany or Czech Republic opens up a whole new world of beers. Not just lagers but bocks, pilsners, wheat beers, etc.

Last year my wife & I went to Croatia, and also visited Montenegro, and we found some really great lagers, especially the dark lagers.
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Old 18-10-2016, 10:34
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Last year my wife & I went to Croatia, and also visited Montenegro, and we found some really great lagers, especially the dark lagers.
I'm quite partial to a dark lager once in a while but you almost never see them in the UK.

If you like beer hunting then you really should get yourself over to Poland where there is a fantastic beer scene with influences from all over Europe. Cheap too.
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Old 18-10-2016, 11:41
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I'm quite partial to a dark lager once in a while but you almost never see them in the UK.

If you like beer hunting then you really should get yourself over to Poland where there is a fantastic beer scene with influences from all over Europe. Cheap too.
In terms of "beer hunting" I really want to go to the Copenhagen Beer Celebration. It's run by Mikkeller and they invite 80 of the best breweries from Europe and America. It's run over two days, each with two sessions. Each brewery brings two beers for each session. They're nearly always their most exclusive and rare beers or things specially made for the event. It's £50 a session but all your beer is included. I'd really want to go to all the sessions though and including accomodation, flights etc it'd be a pretty pricey weekend away!
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Old 18-10-2016, 12:41
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In terms of "beer hunting" I really want to go to the Copenhagen Beer Celebration. It's run by Mikkeller and they invite 80 of the best breweries from Europe and America. It's run over two days, each with two sessions. Each brewery brings two beers for each session. They're nearly always their most exclusive and rare beers or things specially made for the event. It's £50 a session but all your beer is included. I'd really want to go to all the sessions though and including accomodation, flights etc it'd be a pretty pricey weekend away!
Plus of course the added cost of a new liver when you get home.
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Old 18-10-2016, 13:10
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Plus of course the added cost of a new liver when you get home.
Haha yeah quite probably!

Here's a review of this years on a blog that I follow. It does sound bloody great!

https://beergeekblog.co.uk/2016/08/c...ebration-2016/
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Old 18-10-2016, 13:20
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Haha yeah quite probably!

Here's a review of this years on a blog that I follow. It does sound bloody great!

https://beergeekblog.co.uk/2016/08/c...ebration-2016/
That looks amazing. I am saving up!

I like the idea of adding 116 beers to my Untappd in a weekend.
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Old 18-10-2016, 13:36
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I'm quite partial to a dark lager once in a while but you almost never see them in the UK.

If you like beer hunting then you really should get yourself over to Poland where there is a fantastic beer scene with influences from all over Europe. Cheap too.
My wife & I spent a week in Warsaw @ five years ago and really enjoyed it. You are right, it has a fantastic brewing history and there are some great bars to visit and beers to try.
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Old 18-10-2016, 13:56
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1) Peroni Nastro Azzurro

The rest in no particular order: Bitburger, Krombacher, Veltins (all these are in some Tesco's), Baltika (Wetherspoons)

If you can find it in a specialist pub: Hacker Pschorr - gorgeous German beer.
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Old 18-10-2016, 15:15
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It's £50 a session but all your beer is included. I'd really want to go to all the sessions though and including accomodation, flights etc it'd be a pretty pricey weekend away!
Given the cost of a beer in Copenhagen, £50 a session isn't that bad.

My wife & I spent a week in Warsaw @ five years ago and really enjoyed it. You are right, it has a fantastic brewing history and there are some great bars to visit and beers to try.
I liked Warsaw (found some great microbrewery bars up by the University area) but Krakow was even better as it was more compact and Olde Worlde.
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Old 19-10-2016, 09:22
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[quote=LostFool;84266635]Given the cost of a beer in Copenhagen, £50 a session isn't that bad.



I liked Warsaw (found some great microbrewery bars up by the University area) but Krakow was even better as it was more compact and Olde Worlde.[/QUOTE]

Krakow is very much on our "to visit" list!
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Old 19-10-2016, 11:18
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Krakow is very much on our "to visit" list!
Let this place tempt you: http://www.houseofbeerkrakow.com/
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:01
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1. Peroni
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Old 22-11-2016, 22:34
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