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Old 06-09-2016, 09:51
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Bib!! Spoiler tags please!!! This is obviously a storyline for the young Barlowmeister when he returns!!!!

As for the Billy/Todd scenes other people probably understandably enjoyed watching it more than me but it certainly didn't offend me & I see no reason why it should anyone else, though gay or straight it was quite 'racy' for Corrie!!


Really can't see why it would offend anyone, clothes were still on and they were on the bed as opposed to in it, plus the kissing bit was only like 20 seconds, yet people are up in arms. It is funny though because they are complaining about the same show that was created by a gay man and has had may camp characters in the past.

I can see why you thought that scene was racy, but like you say it could have been Aidan and Eva kissing passionately like that and it would still have been racy. It's different someone goes the whole hog and expresses how it's disgusting just because it was two men kissing and that it's perverted, and even 'full blown pron' in some people's cases.

Just because people don't like gay kissing that doesn't make them homophobic.
Yep, it does.

Bib that phrase always makes me laugh. These bigots are living in a world of fiction
Yes, we are supposed to believe in a book written over 2000 years ago, found in a desert and most likely written by people with mental health problems. Plus religious bigots believe they should discriminate and ostracise real people otherwise it will upset the man in the sky (who they don't know exists).

I always love when someone says this because it's always fun to point out they don't make a fuss about their children seeing: affairs, assault, blackmail, murder, kidnapping and the like but two guys kissing is a step too far.
Exactly this! There was also complaints over Billy and Todd kissing before and someone tweeted and said they'd rather watch Kylie be brutally stabbed to death on the street than watch two men kiss.

Also, it's not up to TV shows to parent the children.
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:01
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To be honest I did find it very embarrassing to watch knowing my parents were probably watching at the same time. But it would have been between a man and a woman. There's no need to talk about that kind of thing so early in the evening!
Exactly! I bet there are a few parents out there having a few difficult conversations with their offspring at the moment!

Are we so spoonfed everything on TV these days that you have to actually see characters sucking each others faces off to understand that sex is about to, or has already, taken place?

That said though, I didn't realise that Aiden and Maria got as far as the bedroom for a episode or two. I thought they'd been interrupted.
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:07
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I don't think the s word should be allowed to be uttered before the watershed. I just cringe every time I hear it. Call me prudish if you want, but in the olden days (the Eighties and Nineties) I was able to sit down with my family and watch Corrie and Eastenders. Now I'd just die of embarrassment!
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:09
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People are really complaining about this? honestly it's as if 'queer as folk' was never screened.

I thought it was very well done, the tension had been building up all day, but one little throwaway remark made Billy stop and think what he was doing, he is torn between his love of Todd and his love of god, knowing that he may put his job at risk.
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:15
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I think a lot of this is down to people recognising chemistry and not liking it. A lot of gay kisses in soaps are pretty tame, closed mouthed and chaste, Todd and Billy kiss each other full on like they mean it and genuinely want each other. I think that freaks the homophobes out!

Some will complain, their complaints will be rejected by Ofcom and life will go on.
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:19
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So a gay kiss in Corrie is a problem and that a gang killed a young gay man in EastEnders is not a problem?
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:19
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I always laugh when people cry "but how do I explain this to my children????" as if it's our fault that they are shit parents.
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:32
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I don't care whether it's a man and a man kissing/canoodling, a woman and a woman, or a man and a woman, it's not something I'd choose to watch up close in real life, therefore not something I'd like to watch on television. You might see a public display of affection (and I don't mean a quick peck or a holding of hands) in the supermarket, or in the street and you might hear a chorus of FGS get a room! and don't get me wrong, I'd rather see people getting along happily than punching 10 barrels of crap out of one another, but people getting "down to it" in public does make people feel rather uncomfortable and naturally avert their eyes onto something else.

Ok, Todd and Billy actually did "Get a room" but would we want to really see what's going on in that room? I know I certainly don't, I don't want to watch or hear smooching and snogging and groping from any quarters, especially during my early evening soap opera (you don't expect it) - This storyline could have been done with far less graphic detail. Whilst we're on the subject of the 9 o'clock watershed, what about all the omnibus editions which are shown during the afternoon? What happens then?

I remember years ago witnessing Brian throwing Gail on to the bed (they were making up after an argument) Thankfully they scene ended there, the music played and the credits rolled, now that would have been a sight that nobody wanted to see!
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:17
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As much as these people infuriate me with their views, I think it would be better if the rags stopped giving them a platform by writing articles about them.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:18
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Just because people don't like gay kissing that doesn't make them homophobic.
Yes it does.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:21
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So a gay kiss in Corrie is a problem and that a gang killed a young gay man in EastEnders is not a problem?
Thanks for saying this!
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:23
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I think a lot of this is down to people recognising chemistry and not liking it. A lot of gay kisses in soaps are pretty tame, closed mouthed and chaste, Todd and Billy kiss each other full on like they mean it and genuinely want each other. I think that freaks the homophobes out!

Some will complain, their complaints will be rejected by Ofcom and life will go on.
I'd agree with this. I mean there are plenty of gay characters on soaps but when was the last time we saw a couple with as much on-screen chemistry? I mean they must be doing something right if they got the homophobes so riled up. (Incidentally Charlie Condou who played Marcus just tweeted "I don't remember there being this much fuss when @BrunoLangley and me got caught shagging on #Corrie.")

I think it's a sad state of affairs that people can still freak out over a kiss on a bed between two men and that Dan and Bruno have been subjected to so much bile. I just hope Corrie doesn't let the bigots and bullies win.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:29
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I won't copy and paste them, but Facebook and Twitter were flooded with some really nasty comments last night about Corrie's gay kiss.

There was I thinking homophobia was much less common in 2016, but I don't think I've ever seen such a negative response to it on Corrie (Which has become a very gay friendly show). What makes matters worse is these comments are getting a lot of support/backup/likes, from other biggots.

Did anybody else see these?
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:36
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I don't like watching anybody being intimate because it's a private thing, and it doesn't need to be explicit for people to know what they're doing. That's just titillation, and doesn't enhance the programme in any way. I just hide behind a magazine when this sort of thing is on screen, despite the fact that I'm watching on my own!
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:50
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Corrie is a gay friendly show


and yet about a quarter or maybe half of it's audience still live in the dark ages when being gay meant you were a pervert or mentally ill.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:50
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I remember the last time they showed Todd in a passionate embrace (with Marcus) and there were complaints. This was around the same time when we were 'treated' to the sight of Peter and Tina, in his bed, post coital, obviously topless, suggesting completely naked, cuddling, discussing the sex they had just had.

But nobody complained About that.

My reply remains the same as it did then - either complain about neither, or both. If one (straight sex) is okay to be shown, then so is the other (gay sex) - watching with family and children or not.

The fact that one scene was much stronger in what you actually saw re naked limbs and suggestion just reinforces that the complaints were based in homophobic - whether the people complaining recognise that or not.

You don't have to be yelling abuse in the street, or hitting homosexuals to be homophobic which I think a lot of people seem to think.

If you object to seeing it on screen as you perceive it not to be 'normal' and you don't want your children to see it, whilst you are okay with them seeing expression of physical or sexual affection between a straight couple, then it is homophobic and you are wanting to raise your children in that way and expecting tv to facilitate it by not showing such scenes, is discrimination.

Sadly it was predictable, I knew there would be complaints as i watched the scene.
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:53
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I think it's more because they were lying on top of each other - the bigoted population of the UK aren't ready for that level of explicitness so they took to social media and ranted their vile spew of bigoted self righteous views.....
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Old 06-09-2016, 11:56
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For a lot of them it's probably the most excitement they've experienced in a while. Their tiny little minds can't deal with it.
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:01
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I have sat and watched corrie with people from the older generation - 60s and 70s - and whenever two gays kiss, they blatatnaly say "Ewwwww" and tut
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:02
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What's funny is most of the comments come from men who wouldn't give two hoots if it was a straight couple or two women. Some of the posters genuinely believe they aren't homophobic, yet say they cannot accept that gay people are equal to straight people and call the scene 'perverted'.

Charlie Condou (Marcus) also tweeted saying he didn't remember this much fuss when he and Todd were caught by Maria, and both Todd and Marcus had no shirts on whereas both Todd and Billy still had clothes on and were on the bed!
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:11
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I actually feel quite sad today just thinking that there are still so many bigoted people in the world.
I'm guessing some people can't handle any sort of chemistry between two gay characters even if they are fully dressed. I just hope that Corrie doesn't let the homophobes win because Todd and Billy seem to have plenty of fans on twitter too.

Oh, and I also feel really bad for Dan and Bruno who will no doubt be subjected to lots of homophobic comments.
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:11
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I always laugh when people cry "but how do I explain this to my children????" as if it's our fault that they are shit parents.
Yes, me too.

Parents are (or should be) in ultimate charge of what their children watch. I get that can be a very time consuming process, especially in this day and age where they can watch stuff on tablets, phones there are multiple tvs in houses when they are having to do other things like cook, but it is still their responsibility until the child is old enough to understand things like sex and violence and be trusted to watch by themselves.
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:12
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It was very steamy, very hot

But there's no need for rude homophobic comments like that!

It's 2016, it's very sickening
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:14
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It's great that CS are producing gay scenes hot and steamy enough to get people complaining. They're putting EE's problematic and insulting depiction of gay characters to shame.
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:17
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It's great that CS are producing gay scenes hot and steamy enough to get people complaining. They're putting EE's problematic and insulting depiction of gay characters to shame.
EastEnders is insulting when it comes to writing gay characters. Some eras don't even feature any gay characters, and the ones that do always seem to come with problems like you say. It puts out such a negative image!
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