EXACTLY!





I keep seeing this SAME word come up time and time again when talking about the people who don't want to see gay men kissing. BIGOT BIGOT BIGOT

Do the hand wringing PC brigade on here actually know the meaning of the word?

Bigot:
intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself:


So in actual fact, the ones attacking the people for not wanting to see men kissing are the bigots.

*I* don't want to see it, and I don't want to see women snogging either. And I am not too fond of seeing PDA's from heteros either. But gay snogging moreso. I also get sick of seeing OTT camp gay men on tv. Every time I turn on the tv, there's another one; Coach trip, Big Brother, Judge Rinder, X Factor, everywhere.........

No matter what people on here think or say, or how sniffy they get and how many 'you're homophobic' rants they scream out, the fact is, people are ENTITLED to their views. And they are entitled to them, without being lambasted by people for having their own personal view.

And the meaning of homophobia is

having or showing an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people:


Most people aren't like this: I certainly am not, and I have nothing against gays; but like many people, I just don't want to see gay people getting intimate with each other. I can't help the way I feel, and neither can anyone else, so people need to can it, and accept that people have different opinions to them!

I bet if someone gay spouted that they didn't like seeing hetero's snogging, no-one would care. But God forbid you say even the slightest thing about gays. Especially on here.

A good debate has developed on here. I have no problem what is shown on any tv show or in a movie. This forum gives people the opportunity to put their well thought out points of view. But you went and spoiled it for me by trying to deny the right of free speech to others by calling for the removal of their platform. Free speech is the one thing we have to hold near and dear.

Anyone that picked up the phone to complain or posted bigoted tweets on twitter over a kiss on a bed by two fully dressed men in a soap should be ashamed of themselves. Haven't they got anything else to fret about in their sad little lives?You'd think it was 1956 and not 2016.
Also the character of Todd has been in the show for years is he never supposed to have a boyfriend or any sort of affectionate relationship in fear of a few homophobic trolls clutching their pearls in horror. Surely it's important that TV represents the gay community and treats the relationship between two men in the same way they would a straight couple.

Indeed, which you have shown here:





Yes, it's the homophobes that are the real victims of oppression here.

*rolls eyes until they fall out of my head*

Ain't you tired, Miss Hilly?

Exactly

Oh do grow up. You sound hysterical.

I'm the hysterical one?

Ok dear.

I would say that the scene of Peter and Tina that has been mentioned was more explicit than Billy and Todd and I dont recall that getting any complaints. But the point is that there are complaints every time there is a gay scene on screen, just a few weeks ago there was a discussion on here about complaints about just a kiss.

Bruno Langley (Todd) has a young son. Apparently BL told him that some men like other men, to explain why he kisses other men on TV. That seems fine to me. If parents get so uncomfortable perhaps they shouldn't be watching soaps transmitting after 8.30 p.m. themselves (which was when this scene was transmitted). They certainly shouldn't let young children watch,who probably don't have any preconceptions in that regard whatsoever.

Meanwhile I'm just here enjoying that scene because it was hot.

It has created some quality discussion though, 5/7 would anger the homophobes again.

Not exactly. You are entitled to your personal view but you are not entitled to not be critcised for your view. People have as much right to call you homophobic as you have to show dislike of gay people kissing.

So lets see just where this is going now and in years to come.
In order not to be a homophobe t's no longer enough to accept gay people. You have to actually like watching them have full on kisses. Now I have to justify why I wouldn't like to kiss another man its just a kiss after all. The next step has to be sexual acts. Why not let a gay man perform oral sex on you its just a bj after all. In years to come these extremeists will insist anyone who is not bisexual must be a homophobe. They really are becoming that intolerant narrow minded and extreme. Kind of sad that those who longed for tolerance turn out to be anything but.

Bib. No you don't have to like it but you have to treat it the same as any straight couple who are constantly onscreen kissing in a similar manner.

It's about equality. If you wouldn't complain about a hetero couple kissing then complaining about a gay couple is hypocritical

I just feel sorry for the children born to these horrible people, they'll be raised with closed minds and inherited hatred and ignorance.

Exactly, it wasme that mentioned it, even though it was over 2 and a half years ago, simply because it was more graphic (not explicit, for me you need to see the actual act being simulated for it to be explicit) than Soap standards at that time (nude chest for Peter, nude shoulders for Tina, strong suggestion they were completely nude and only covered by the bed sheets, cuddling, kissing and discussing the sex they had just had) and also because it was around the same time as the Marcus/Todd snog on the sofa of the show home which was much tamer (i think Todd had his shirt off but you could see they were fully clothed waist down) but got complaints.

As I recall, Ofcom found in favour of Corrie that time precisely because they looked not just at that scene, but episodes around it and stated that there had been equivalent scenes between heterosexual couples and to rule one as acceptable and the other not would be discriminatory.

an eminently sensible ruling in my opinion.

As an aside, i also remember a scene around that time where sally and Tim gained access to Peter and carla's honeymoon suite and we're shown jumping on the bed, clearly intending to have sex. I think it was even referenced in jokey dialogue later that they had.

But no complaints were made about it.

Absolutely. That's all that needs to be said. Most children do not care either way.

It's only a few drama queens that throw a hissy fit every time there's a gay kiss on tv to mask their own insecurities.

My sister simply told her little girl who asked about a gay couple in the street, that some men fall in love with women and some men with men and she said oh that's nice mummy and carried on playing. .

Children are accepting. It's from their parents they inherit any prejudice. So parents should look to themselves when they ask "think of the children "

Let's say the Peter and Tina scene had received complaints for being aired pre-watershed. Would it be okay to label anyone who complained as hate filled bigots?

I thought the scene where Billy kissed Todd in the Rovers earlier last night was absolutely fine but the bedroom one with prolonged snogging and discussion of sex was a bit 'full on' for a pre-watershed soap.

Exactly.

Bet most of them won't be whining when Caz tries it on with Dreary Maria!

And how many of them had any complaints when the dreary one and Aiden were getting it on the other week. Not to mention Aiden's dad and JennyBradley going at it on a factory desk?

I will be. Well either that or snoozing

I will be watching to see if their moustaches get tangled

You may not be hysterical but you're certainly patronising.

It would depend on their stated reason for finding it offensive.

If it was purely because it was pre watershed and they felt it crossed a line on that, then no, I wouldn't.

If however it was gay people who were onjecting to it simply because it was a man and a woman and their sexual preference is for men and men or women and women, then yes, I would.

I think most people have said that the problem comes because complaints only seem to be made about same sex scenes. If the same people were making them about both, it isn't demonstrating any discrimination between to two sexualities, just showing that they don't think that any sex scenes (and i do agree scenes on a bed are different to a hello peck in a public place) are appropriate for a pre watershed soap.

Those saying they just wouldn't want to see the same from a man and a woman either, well they're are mostly sugar coating what they really think, it shows

The FB comments I looked through are just plain cruel

Good for Daniel Brocklbank for standing up to the harsh words