Unbelievable... you'd think this guy was educated enough to know that we are part of the UK.

Stewart Hosie tweets:

Scotland is an advanced, democratic nation. The UK says we're too immature even to have a serious news programme.

In fairness to the UK they have a point. Has anyone watched Reporting Scotland lately? I swear it's the most dumbed down news programme going. It was never like that before.

STV aren't that great either.

The point i was making is we are the UK.... the UK isn't some seperate body.

I've no interested in a Scottish six... I like a UK wide programme and let's face it most of us get our news from various sources anyway.

It's amazing that this is the first time you have looked at a satisfaction poll this way to come up with this result.

When NS was consistently on top I never once saw a statement from you like the one above. Funny old thing bias.

I agree with both you and Phil. The Scottish BBC news is terrible in the evening with a fair proportion of it being an old firm round up. But at the same time I rarely watch it as I get my news elsewhere and I'm not particularly fond of Jacki Burd.

If a Scottish six had the same format then I wouldn't watch it either.

Obviously you can't understand the difference between satisfaction and popularity, just like the Tory supporting press.

It's a long term strategy of the SNP's to use terminology that creates the idea that the UK is alien, and Scotland's borders are the default. This is one of the reasons they are so keen to push for a Scottish Six in the first place, and want to ditch the British Transport Police, and merge individual police forces within Scotland into a single force, branded as Police Scotland.

They want to promote a subtle shift in thinking, so people think of themselves as Scottish first, rather than from the Highlands, and definitely not British. It helps with the presumption that Scotland is a 'normal country' that has been taken over by the English, who we are now calling British.

An article which points out the obvious and cuts out the nonsense being spouted on here. The SNP is a centrist party which leans slightly to the centre and the new powers don't allow for radical change.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scottish-el...ng-snp-1558018

Also the I notice the usual zealots celebrating the claim from Westminster, wishful thinking perhaps, that Scotland is not to have a news service tailored to suit the demands and needs of it's devolved status, firstly the BBC seem to be wary of being told what they can and can't do by Westminster. Westminster may believe it's part of the BBCs charter to work as a tool for British Government and the Union in order to undermine any sense of Scottish national identity. Secondly if that does become the case it would tear apart the argument that the BBC is capable of providing balanced or neutral news service to the people of Scotland come any future referendum.

Another point is that when Hosie talks about the UK as a separate entity that doesn't represent Scots he is quite right. The only real representation we have in power is David Mundell, who as the BBC case demonstrates so clearly, represents the Union not the people of Scotland.

What's with the use of the word "zealots", did you get fed up calling us "cowards"

I don't think I've ever described any posters on here as cowards . . . . . even the zealots

STV news are all blatantly manipulated in favour of SNP Newsnight being the worst offender.

It would go a wee step further than that. Given the argument that the Conservatives eventually won concerning political levies and their still targeting unions supporting Labour there would be a logical inconsistency in continuing to impose a fee on the population of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to support an organisation with a mission contrary to the aims of a large part of their electorate. Obviously the option would remain to them to abstain from watching live TV but that's also going to impact commercial suppliers including Sky and Virgin. I'd definitely consider it if my broadband was a wee bit faster.

You called no voters cowards and given I was a no voter, by inference you were calling me a coward.

BIB - I think that link confirms what I've been saying, that they're not really a centre left party, but a centrist party... I think I said "crowding the middle ground". Also it's unlikely they will use the new powers to be radical...

I think
I'd class you more as a British Nationalist who's find Scottish identity irritating and something to be dismissed.

I think the claim being made, which is a nonsense, is that the SNP is closest to the Tory Party. That's agenda driven drivel. The article contradicts the self indulgent chat on here and claims the SNP is centrist but slightly left leaning and that the powers available Scotland don't realistically make radical an option open to the SNP. Having said that the moves on land reform are undoubtedly centre left and hated by the Tories.

Oh I understand all right, just like I understand bias

You lost me at Zealots. Perhaps you need to try toning down your hostile language.

Everything Scottish is OK with you but everything that mentions the UK must be wrong, it has long since become tiresome to read your astoundingly anti fellow Scot rants on everything from an extra half hour of news to why you believe the SNP are any different from any other Centrist Party in the UK.

Just to emphasise, the UK has no mainstream Right or Left wing parties.

Actually out of all of the UK Parties the SNP are closest to the Tory Party. Labour are clearly to the left of them and the Lib Dems, if they are still a functioning Party are maybe between Labour and the SNP.

Would you class SNP policies as being closer to Labour or Tory ones?

Well of course Labour, I don't think you can credibly suggest otherwise. Labour don't really have consistent policies in Scotland anymore but their position on health, education, taxation etc is closer to the SNP than the Tories. The poverty tsar pointed out recently how close the two parties are in policy and values.

Hmm, but don't you come across as an Independence at all costs supporter who doesnt actually care about the folk in Scotland suffering the consequence of a shoddily planned and executed Independence?

I particularly quite value my Scottish Nationality while realising that Independence, if it is to come, needs some careful planning. However, I also don't think the UK is the vilest and worst place on earth to live and I also dont think we are simply a colony and I certainly wouldnt class myself as a Nationalist in the sense that you want to ascribe to folk. On the contrary I see myself an as internationalist.

At the end of the day, your tone isnt going to persuade anyone to vote to leave the UK.

SNP Independence, er sorry growth commission.

http://www.snp.org/snp_growth_commission?

Watching question time last night it struck me that the SNP panel member was vociferous in her attack on Brexit, stating quite forcefully that it would mean years of pain and economic turmoil for the UK and by inference Scotland because we are closely intertwined with the EU. Something I can agree with.

However, there's no mention of the years and turmoil and economic pain of Scotland separating from a much more integrated Union.

Is there a failed argument there in the SNP ranks? Why is Brexit so painful while Sexit apparently so easy?

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2015

I think folk judge where they are on the biggest issues, like the Tax policy of the Party. I think this article explains where the SNP are right now despite your protestation to the contrary..

http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-an...n-the-centre-r

Do they really? Folk judge a party on area which it has limited power or control over? I think you need to think again on that one.