Heaven forbid that a Government minister should have to answer questions put to him by a reporter! What a bloody cheek by that snotty nosed aide rushing to his rescue. Pathetic.

how could anyone possibly give an answer to a situation that might never happen, and even if it does happen they cannot possibly know when it will happen or what the circumstances would be at that time ?

This is how BBC Scotland reported the news..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37861162

"Work on building eight Type 26 frigates at shipyards in Glasgow will start next summer, the defence secretary has said.

Michael Fallon said the date for cutting the first steel would safeguard hundreds of skilled jobs until 2035."

But in a separate article on the same subject, BBC Scotland's Business/economy editor Douglas Fraser reported..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37871888

"The contract between the Ministry of Defence and BAE Systems hasn't yet been signed. There are details to be finalised. The announcement has been about an "agreement in principle"."

He should have said..

not for the first time i am struggling to see the point you are trying to make ...

You need to remember that SNP supporters believe the MSM and especially the BBC are pro-Union and not to be trusted to report truthfully yet are happy to quote them when it suits.

He/she should have sought guidance from SNP Press Campaign HQ for the true story in err, where is it now, oh yes......Bath.

I really struggle to work out what the SNP beef is on this story. Especially when as a party infested with left wing activism they seem determined to route the military out of Scotland. What was the 2014 plan for Scotland's military was it one ship iirc?

Indeed. Well said.
If Faslane & Coulport closed West Dunbartonshire would become even more of a wasteland than it already is.

I'm not sure what that clip has to do with your obsession with the SNP? its a Tory government minister being asked about the defence contract by a STV journalist. Are tory ministers a precious commodity on this thread?

Im'e surprised the Government didnt wait until the next referendum is out of the way before they ordered more warships from the Clyde.

Of course not but on a thread entitled SNP watch. I would question what it has to do with the SNP.

The SNP don't dictate defence policy after all and they do not issue military contracts.

Meanwhile in other news our FM is prepared to respects the result of the US election.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...sident-9204999

Americans can now rest easy

Does anyone find it strange that she would back someone who leads a party that's more right wing than the Tories in its policies, someone who has advocated more involvement in the Middle East, even talked of attacking Iran and confronting Russia.

And yet, Hillary will make a great president?

This thread only discusses the SNP? Not wider Scottish politics? No comments on what other parties are saying or open to being scrutinised? You have no opinion on the tory minister being evasive over a simple question?

Well, I would have thought it was obvious that things relating to the SNP would be discussed in an SNP thread and as thms post did not relate to the SNP at all then it perhaps should have been posted in a Scottish politics thread.

I certainly do have an opinion but not in the context of an SNP thread.

I did try to find any SNP comments on this welcome news that protects Scottish jobs but I can't find any, it's as if the SNP aren't happy to report good news.

The idea that there cant be any discussion about wider Scottish politics on this thread is absurd. Even more bizarre you say you may have a view on a post but wont share it because it doesn't relate to the SNP. So thanks for confirming why I tend to avoid this thread and the one before it. Its a personal pet project of yours fuelling your obsession with the SNP.

Surely threads have titles to define what is generally posted in them? Find a quote from the SNP which mentions Fallons announcement and post it then we can all discuss it.

Alternatively continue to avoid a thread you have no interest in.

So a question regarding Scottish independence has no relevance on a thread to discuss SNP and Scottish politics because it doesn't name the SNP. Bizarre.

Bit the thread title isn't Scottish politics. I'm sure if you want to open a Scottish politics thread people will post on it.

I restate that if you find something from the SNP that mentions the shipbuilding contact by the SNP, which I'm sure you will agree is great news for Scottish jobs, then it would be in context.

Sadly, so far I can't see any reference from them.

It may be a good idea to have Scottish politics thread instead of an SNP one given you strangely believe the Scottish independence debate and Scottish politics (other than the SNP) is irrelevant to this thread. Mind you such a thread would probably go the same way as most debates you indulge in .... the SNP.

Tut-tut Black Sheep then you should play by your own rules -


What relevance did the story on this nutter have to do with an SNP thread? In fact it's almost like you were posting it just to tar independence supporters with the same brush.

What I find strange is that SNP supporters continually claim that they don't bring up independence at every opportunity but constantly, in the case of thms bring up independence.

You then claim that the mere mention of independence warrants the involvement of the SNP.

Have the SNP mentioned the shipbuilding contract?

Isn't this nutter an SNP supporter?

No he is not unless you are claiming anyone who supports Scottish independence is an SNP supporter? You are tying yourself in knots with your self imposed parameters of what can be discussed on this thread. No wonder.

Are you saying he doesn't support the SNP?


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...dence-movement

Seems to me like if they hadn't suspended him he would still be a member, that pretty much sounds like a supporter to me.

I really have no idea. The article you quoted certainly makes no such claim or mentions the SNP.

I hope that is not a desperate excuse for being caught not playing by your own rules.

edit: lol I see it is.

Nowhere there does it say he an SNP supporter. In fact in the article he slams Strugeon. But hey ho you have got what you wanted enter in to another obsessive and silly tug over your favourite subject the SNP. I will leave you to it.