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soapnut
07-09-2016
http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/06/disgra...a-fix-6112994/

The way he was treated was absolutely disgusting.

That imbecile did far worse ..
Skyrah
07-09-2016
They (BB) wanted Biggins out to remove the biggest competition to their fav (Bear).

Same week Bear "Won" the Eternal Nomination, I said Bear will win and sadly I was proven right
lulu g
07-09-2016
I disagree. I think Biggins was the Chosen One until he disgraced himself so often they were forced to eject him. The Bear Show was Plan B.
SH1965
07-09-2016
What Biggins said about the Haulcaust and bisexuality was wrong and and contravertial and he deserved a formal warning but not ejection from the house. Bear got countless formal warnings and should have been kicked out. The producers seemed adamant to make either Bear or Marine a winner. I very much doubt I will watch the next CBB
al_capo
07-09-2016
He just sounds bitter to me, he shouldn't of been so stupid. He was talking about how he had already had warnings for his comments and then he waded in on the bisexual conversation and his comments were disgraceful. If it was anyone but Biggins who said that, they would be getting alot more stick.
CLL Dodge
07-09-2016
The unrepentant bigot.
GibsonSG
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“I disagree. I think Biggins was the Chosen One until he disgraced himself so often they were forced to eject him. The Bear Show was Plan B.”

No he most definitely wasn't. We rarely saw anything of him while he was in the house. The entire time it was the fake romances, Bear or Heavy sandwich shouting "Boom!" Pity really it would have been more interesting.
Blue Eyed lady
07-09-2016
He sounds like a completely different person talking from the first remorseful interview he gave to Dan Wootton when he was first removed.

I suspect all the support he's had on Twitter has aided in convincing himself that he did nothing wrong.

Not sure about this...."I would sit down with Katie on a sofa and chat to her on TV in about six months." Why in 6 months & why on TV?

I really, really disliked Bear on BB & as far as I would allow a RTV show to bother me, I was pretty p***ed off when he won but, imo, underneath all that lovey, showbiz malarkey & ridiculous laughing, Biggins is quite an unpleasant man.
Pitman
07-09-2016
so is he saying the bisexuals spreading aids comments were a joke now, he has a dark sense of humour, maybe he should stick to family panto gags in future ?
Bowdon
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“so is he saying the bisexuals spreading aids comments were a joke now, he has a dark sense of humour, maybe he should stick to family panto gags in future ?”

It's called black comedy. The Brits are known for it. The poor people, which most of us come from but few seem to know or admit, had to deal with a lot and so humour was their escape.

People are too willing to be a victim and don't even fight back at all. If someone says a tasteless joke to you, then say one back. It nutralises it. That's how to deal with bully's too. It's part of life.

As far as the bisexual comments go. I'm not bi or gay. But I have a lot of bi/gay friends and its sadly one of the mindsets in the gay community. This situation could have been a good opportunity to challenge that view. But no.. people are labeled and sent packing, literally. Nothing moves on. That opinion is STILL floating around waiting for the next idiot to say it.
Pitman
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bowdon:
“It's called black comedy. The Brits are known for it. The poor people, which most of us come from but few seem to know or admit, had to deal with a lot and so humour was their escape.

People are too willing to be a victim and don't even fight back at all. If someone says a tasteless joke to you, then say one back. It nutralises it. That's how to deal with bully's too. It's part of life.

As far as the bisexual comments go. I'm not bi or gay. But I have a lot of bi/gay friends and its sadly one of the mindsets in the gay community. This situation could have been a good opportunity to challenge that view. But no.. people are labeled and sent packing, literally. Nothing moves on. That opinion is STILL floating around waiting for the next idiot to say it.”


that's what I am asking, did he mean it or was it a 'joke' ?

I agree about challenging opinions but this year I don't think many were qualified to do that, maybe James, but he seemed to want a very quiet life ? so Biggins would have just been spouting his bollocks with no opposition.
soapnut
07-09-2016
I'm not condoning Biggins' comments at all, he did overstep the mark, but I truly believe his actions were unintentional, and not enough to warrant being ejected from the house.

No doubt producers were rubbing their hands with glee when they were presented with an earlier opportunity to erase him from the series, and indeed BB history (it was clear to me that he wasn't long for the house anyway, regardless of the situation that ensued). In the few episodes I watched he barely even featured in favour of the nonentity brigade.

Biggins was a friend of the show, a regular BOTS panelist and producers still treated him like dirt, they allowed that idiot to run riot in the house, whilst simultaneously spouting their PC claptrap to anyone who would listen. He was banned from the final and they've even spat a ridiculous excuse for not allowing him to attend that. I do think that there's a lot more to this tale than we've been privy to, and that unfortunately it will stay that way. I read his interview with Dan Wooton who must have been salivating at the details, and Biggins seemed genuinely upset and quite devastated by the unforseen turn of events. His treatment by show bosses have just made me hate them even more, together with the content that they are practically shitting out on Channel 5. The programme has become grubbier than ever, and you can't help feeling comfortable with washing your hands of it.

Katie Waissel is just an attention-seeking, snivelling little mess, and her sudden U-turn came as no surprise as it got her a headline and a further unwarranted amount of cash. The whole fiasco has really tarnished the programme for me and also the unfathomable team behind it. If they don't get rid of them I shall not be returning as a viewer, and BB as a whole this year, for me, has been hugely disappointing. It's like it hasn't even happened. Least amount of coverage I have ever seen in a year and it's a terrible shame. This fabricated controversy and structured reality rinse and repeat cycle has sounded the death-knell for me, regardless of the show continuing or not. I absolutely hate it, it has destroyed a once-brilliant programme (not necessarily on C5) and I'm unsure if I'll even return to any future series. It clearly isn't going to change, and with a heavy heart, I can finally say, I think I'm done with it! I'm not desperate to see any more, and I would be totally fine if BB were to disappear from my tv screen as it's been saturated with a poor man's version since C5 got their mucky paws on it
An Thropologist
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by Blue Eyed lady:
“He sounds like a completely different person talking from the first remorseful interview he gave to Dan Wootton when he was first removed.

I suspect all the support he's had on Twitter has aided in convincing himself that he did nothing wrong.

Not sure about this...."I would sit down with Katie on a sofa and chat to her on TV in about six months." Why in 6 months & why on TV?

I really, really disliked Bear on BB & as far as I would allow a RTV show to bother me, I was pretty p***ed off when he won but, imo, underneath all that lovey, showbiz malarkey & ridiculous laughing, Biggins is quite an unpleasant man.”

No wonder he was remorseful and as far as I am concerned he has done his time. Anyone who has to give an interview to or spend any time with Dan Wootton has been punished enough.
Zarla
07-09-2016
Biggins' biphobia isnt even unusual amongst gay men of 50 plus. If you look on Datalounge (a forum for gay men and women with mainly 40+ gay men posting anonymously) the attitude that bisexuals are 'special snowflakes' is quite widespread.

The thing that really shocks me about that site, though, is how deep and prevalent the resentment of transpeople is. In any one thread, 90% of comments will be transphobic.
willywonker
07-09-2016
Sore loser

Biggins still said what he said, no-one put those words into his mouth
sorcha_healy27
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by Blue Eyed lady:
“He sounds like a completely different person talking from the first remorseful interview he gave to Dan Wootton when he was first removed.

I suspect all the support he's had on Twitter has aided in convincing himself that he did nothing wrong.

Not sure about this...."I would sit down with Katie on a sofa and chat to her on TV in about six months." Why in 6 months & why on TV?

I really, really disliked Bear on BB & as far as I would allow a RTV show to bother me, I was pretty p***ed off when he won but, imo, underneath all that lovey, showbiz malarkey & ridiculous laughing, Biggins is quite an unpleasant man.”

Spot on.
Blue Eyed lady
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“ No wonder he was remorseful and as far as I am concerned he has done his time. Anyone who has to give an interview to or spend any time with Dan Wootton has been punished enough.”

I completely agree re Wootton, even the thought of being in that awful man's company for a nano second is disturbing.

My point was, Biggins does seem, imo, to have changed his tune pretty quickly. Initially he was full of apologies for what he said but now he does seem to be passing the buck on to KW.
canucko
07-09-2016
I attended a BOTS taping in the first c5 cbbuk series. I actually came all the way from Canada to be there, which suprised the staffers (they remarked the show wasn't that good to be worthy of flying there &#128513 I was talking to one of the PA's about previous series and how I like that season but surprised how Ulrika won. He stated "well they say the show maybe fixed" or something to that effect as its been a few years now (I did post on the forum about it at the time) and gave me a big smile and a wink - and definitely left the impression he wasn't joking. I've nevef looked at BB or CBB the same way again.
soapnut
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Blue Eyed lady:
“I completely agree re Wootton, even the thought of being in that awful man's company for a nano second is disturbing.

My point was, Biggins does seem, imo, to have changed his tune pretty quickly. Initially he was full of apologies for what he said but now he does seem to be passing the buck on to KW.”

Katie has made a prize tit of herself and I think Biggins is just highlighting that fact. He was treated appallingly by producers and he publicly apologised afterwards. He is now onto the fact that he was shunted in favour of the younger contestants and the controversy that has engulfed the programme since his ejection. Let's not forget the edit, he wasn't the only contestant to barely feature in the highlight shows. He has also been completely erased from the series as if he never entered the house. This is what annoys me with all this PC nonsense! Producers were very quick to boot Biggins out of the back door, but allow Bear to remain and cause complete havoc, with existing housemates feeling vulnerable and threatened. It stinks. He is clearly hacked off at his unfair and imo over-the-top treatment and I don't blame him. Producers used him to their full advantage. I say good on him for piping up and anything he says that could further sink this show should be said. Ricky Norwood has shared some thoughts, and I think Sam Fox and James Whale should too, they've had their fees and to hell with the supposed confidentiality clause.
Menk
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by canucko:
“I attended a BOTS taping in the first c5 cbbuk series. I actually came all the way from Canada to be there, which suprised the staffers (they remarked the show wasn't that good to be worthy of flying there &#128513 I was talking to one of the PA's about previous series and how I like that season but surprised how Ulrika won. He stated "well they say the show maybe fixed" or something to that effect as its been a few years now (I did post on the forum about it at the time) and gave me a big smile and a wink - and definitely left the impression he wasn't joking. I've nevef looked at BB or CBB the same way again.”

I have to say that Ulrika winning has to be the absolutely worst argument ever for proof that the show is fixed.
Menk
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by soapnut:
“Katie has made a prize tit of herself and I think Biggins is just highlighting that fact. He was treated appallingly by producers and he publicly apologised afterwards. He is now onto the fact that he was shunted in favour of the younger contestants and the controversy that has engulfed the programme since his ejection. Let's not forget the edit, he wasn't the only contestant to barely feature in the highlight shows. He has also been completely erased from the series as if he never entered the house. This is what annoys me with all this PC nonsense! Producers were very quick to boot Biggins out of the back door, but allow Bear to remain and cause complete havoc, with existing housemates feeling vulnerable and threatened. It stinks. He is clearly hacked off at his unfair and imo over-the-top treatment and I don't blame him. Producers used him to their full advantage. I say good on him for piping up and anything he says that could further sink this show should be said. Ricky Norwood has shared some thoughts, and I think Sam Fox and James Whale should too, they've had their fees and to hell with the supposed confidentiality clause.”

Biggins claims that the show wanted Bear or Marnie as their winner. What possible argument is there for the manipulation of a Marnie victory?
moonlily
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by soapnut:
“I'm not condoning Biggins' comments at all, he did overstep the mark, but I truly believe his actions were unintentional, and not enough to warrant being ejected from the house.

No doubt producers were rubbing their hands with glee when they were presented with an earlier opportunity to erase him from the series, and indeed BB history (it was clear to me that he wasn't long for the house anyway, regardless of the situation that ensued). In the few episodes I watched he barely even featured in favour of the nonentity brigade.

Biggins was a friend of the show, a regular BOTS panelist and producers still treated him like dirt, they allowed that idiot to run riot in the house, whilst simultaneously spouting their PC claptrap to anyone who would listen. He was banned from the final and they've even spat a ridiculous excuse for not allowing him to attend that. I do think that there's a lot more to this tale than we've been privy to, and that unfortunately it will stay that way. I read his interview with Dan Wooton who must have been salivating at the details, and Biggins seemed genuinely upset and quite devastated by the unforseen turn of events. His treatment by show bosses have just made me hate them even more, together with the content that they are practically shitting out on Channel 5. The programme has become grubbier than ever, and you can't help feeling comfortable with washing your hands of it.

Katie Waissel is just an attention-seeking, snivelling little mess, and her sudden U-turn came as no surprise as it got her a headline and a further unwarranted amount of cash. The whole fiasco has really tarnished the programme for me and also the unfathomable team behind it. If they don't get rid of them I shall not be returning as a viewer, and BB as a whole this year, for me, has been hugely disappointing. It's like it hasn't even happened. Least amount of coverage I have ever seen in a year and it's a terrible shame. This fabricated controversy and structured reality rinse and repeat cycle has sounded the death-knell for me, regardless of the show continuing or not. I absolutely hate it, it has destroyed a once-brilliant programme (not necessarily on C5) and I'm unsure if I'll even return to any future series. It clearly isn't going to change, and with a heavy heart, I can finally say, I think I'm done with it! I'm not desperate to see any more, and I would be totally fine if BB were to disappear from my tv screen as it's been saturated with a poor man's version since C5 got their mucky paws on it ”

An excellent post and exactly how I feel too. I didn't even watch the final. I won't be bothering again.
pie-eyed
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Biggins claims that the show wanted Bear or Marnie as their winner. What possible argument is there for the manipulation of a Marnie victory?”

Its very possible they wanted a bear or Marnie win. They both came from big reality shows. There have already been two Geordie shore winners. Marnie very quickly jumped on the showmance bandwagon. Unfortunately for her, after lewis left, we all saw that she had no personality. She is a follower with not an original thought in her head. So it was best all the way we far as the producers were concerned.

If course it's fixed. When they allow people to get away with dreadful behaviour and keep them there at all costs while throwing out somebody like Biggins for just having opinions, it is all wrong. Perez Hilton and Helen wood were also producers chosen ones to be kept for the whole run and they also ruined their series.

It's taken a long time for some if us to see it. Probably because it's so disappointing but bb is nothing more than a manipulated, rehearsed shadow of its former self. It should never have been put into the hands of those who don't care.
soapnut
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Menk:
“Biggins claims that the show wanted Bear or Marnie as their winner. What possible argument is there for the manipulation of a Marnie victory?”

I didn't watch the entire series, very little infact, but enough to get the gist and witness a car crash unfolding at rapid speed. I'm aware that Marnie featured heavily throughout, an obvious attempt to force-feed and manipulate the viewers into liking her - until it became clear that she is dull as dishwater and only interested in opening her gob or her legs for a bit of publicity or a fast buck. These reality nobodies have all fallen off the same production line, however, there's more personality in a shop mannequin than any of them put together - such fake, bland, boring people who usually rely upon some desperate act to get them noticed. Hey, they can't all be Joey Essex and pretend to be thick as pigshit to carve out a career .. I do think that Marnie was purposely given more airtime, but, they may as well have dubbed the tweeting birds and aeroplanes over her footage for all she brought to the table. I'm not even going to start on Stephen, it was clear-cut, that so much is obvious.
yogacats
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by SH1965:
“What Biggins said about the Haulcaust and bisexuality was wrong and and contravertial and he deserved a formal warning but not ejection from the house. Bear got countless formal warnings and should have been kicked out. The producers seemed adamant to make either Bear or Marine a winner. I very much doubt I will watch the next CBB”

Everything you say ..... BB seems to have their priorities ar$e about face.
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