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Big brother is wrong on so many levels.
yellowfurbaby
07-09-2016
Apart from bias to certain housemates one of them one of the main bug bears for me is BB interference and calling into the diary room and warnings over trivial matters.
In the glory days when HMs got warnings only when things were very very bad. Remember BB5 which I recently watched you have fight night which got massively out of control and various threats and arguments which BB left to continue. They interjected before any violence but let viewers make their own mind up.
Nowadays people are given tellings off about wasting food!!! Bear( who ok was annoying) but BB should not have scolded him over food. They also interject in arguments way before they should do and not let the confrontation get more involved. We have warnings after every ad break about aggressive confrontation and language so let them get on with it.
BB needs to go back to ch4!!!
al_capo
07-09-2016
When you have so many people living together, of course some will swear, some will clash and have arguments. Therefore showing aggression, I'm not sure what people want to see. People just talking about the same things that you talk about everyday, getting on and creating no drama?
wotnot
07-09-2016
I'd have thought a huge part of the point of BB is to see how people react to one-another in such an intense environment so arguments and bitching etc should be expected but what I don't like is the fact that, as has been said, some of the major stuff gets ignored and some really petty incidences get blown out of all proportion and also the fact that BB deliberately sets up tasks which are hurtful and nasty and can often ruin a HM's whole experience.
Bunions
07-09-2016
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“I'd have thought a huge part of the point of BB is to see how people react to one-another in such an intense environment so arguments and bitching etc should be expected but what I don't like is the fact that, as has been said, some of the major stuff gets ignored and some really petty incidences get blown out of all proportion and also the fact that BB deliberately sets up tasks which are hurtful and nasty and can often ruin a HM's whole experience.”

I don't like or enjoy that either.

I don't mind them being taken the piss out of a little bit, with silly costumes (Siavash ) and fake tans (Alex ) but I don't know what kind of perverse character you'd have to be to enjoy watching someone being emotionally destroyed?

And I don't want them getting outside info on how they're being perceived anyway - it's bullshit.

Let them be however and whoever they are and not have the benefit of being able to adapt according to criticism from the randoms.
soapnut
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bunions:
“I don't like or enjoy that either.

I don't mind them being taken the piss out of a little bit, with silly costumes (Siavash ) and fake tans (Alex ) but I don't know what kind of perverse character you'd have to be to enjoy watching someone being emotionally destroyed?

And I don't want them getting outside info on how they're being perceived anyway - it's bullshit.

Let them be however and whoever they are and not have the benefit of being able to adapt according to criticism from the randoms.”

I agree. The majority of Channel 5 housemates have often been edited and moulded into something they are not. Too many housemates have exited the house with an entirely different perception of things to that of the viewing public. You only have to view a housemate's best bits to see that they have been manipulated beyond recognition by producers. It almost completely voids their decision to enter the house as we clearly won't see their true characters - isn't that the whole point? .

As long as producers are happy with their contrived storyboard, they don't appear to give a damn about the puppets they are operating. I know that it's an individual's own choice to take part in the show, but you have to ask, is there really any point to even setting one foot into the compound when producers clearly have their own agenda? Obviously, potential housemates are wise to this now, hence the programme's struggle to find willing, well-known participants and the haste to recruit cheap structured reality 'stars'.

All of the interference is unnecessary and needs to stop, but with ofcom a permanent thorn in the show's side it's very doubtful that will ever happen. Most conflict is engineered by producers and down to them, so the programme deserves every roasting it gets if they choose to act so irresponsibly. Minor issues only seem to become major ones when twisted bosses stick their oar in.
Zarla
08-09-2016
Originally Posted by yellowfurbaby:
“Apart from bias to certain housemates one of them one of the main bug bears for me is BB interference and calling into the diary room and warnings over trivial matters.
In the glory days when HMs got warnings only when things were very very bad. Remember BB5 which I recently watched you have fight night which got massively out of control and various threats and arguments which BB left to continue. They interjected before any violence but let viewers make their own mind up.
Nowadays people are given tellings off about wasting food!!! Bear( who ok was annoying) but BB should not have scolded him over food. They also interject in arguments way before they should do and not let the confrontation get more involved. We have warnings after every ad break about aggressive confrontation and language so let them get on with it.
BB needs to go back to ch4!!!”

Hmm, most people on here think he should have been warned more often about wasting food. Warned, and then removed, even.
Cats_Eyes
12-09-2016
Originally Posted by wotnot:
“I'd have thought a huge part of the point of BB is to see how people react to one-another in such an intense environment so arguments and bitching etc should be expected but what I don't like is the fact that, as has been said, some of the major stuff gets ignored and some really petty incidences get blown out of all proportion and also the fact that BB deliberately sets up tasks which are hurtful and nasty and can often ruin a HM's whole experience.”

That indeed was the point - at first.

But now it is just to shock.

Crap !
Veri
12-09-2016
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“Hmm, most people on here think he should have been warned more often about wasting food. Warned, and then removed, even.”

About merely wasting food? Really?

(I'm not saying you're wrong, just wondering whether it's really got to that point here.)
Veri
12-09-2016
Originally Posted by Cats_Eyes:
“That indeed was the point - at first.

But now it is just to shock.

Crap !”

It's fear of "another bb4".
Marc_Vu
13-09-2016
Bear had so many warnings and still got away with it. That ruined for me.
Bunions
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Veri:
“About merely wasting food? Really?

(I'm not saying you're wrong, just wondering whether it's really got to that point here.)”

It wasn't just 'merely wasting food' though.

He was targeting specific foods to waste in order to get under HMs skin eg coffee.

He did so repeatedly, despite numerous warnings from BB about it, and it was apparently really hilarious to watch.

It wasn't a food fight that they were all involved in whilst having a laugh. It was ONE PERSON doing it to amuse himself and wind fellow HMs up.
Cats_Eyes
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Veri:
“It's fear of "another bb4".”

That may be so but to go from one extreme to another is not the answer imo.

In fact it just worsens the situation.
Zarla
13-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bunions:
“It wasn't just 'merely wasting food' though.

He was targeting specific foods to waste in order to get under HMs skin eg coffee.

He did so repeatedly, despite numerous warnings from BB about it, and it was apparently really hilarious to watch.

It wasn't a food fight that they were all involved in whilst having a laugh. It was ONE PERSON doing it to amuse himself and wind fellow HMs up.”

I remember the great frosted flake fight of BB12. BB said nothing until the next day.

Bear targeting the coffee was hilarious and the hms should have responded by tipping away the wine and beer which the reality stars looked forward to every night. BB replaced the coffee which they shouldnt have done as seeing a bit of caffeine withdrawal on there would have been very amusing. There's always too much sitting around smoking and drinking tea and coffee on BB because that's what celebs get used to doing when they're waiting around on set or at the theatre.
Dix
17-09-2016
Originally Posted by yellowfurbaby:
“Apart from bias to certain housemates one of them one of the main bug bears for me is BB interference and calling into the diary room and warnings over trivial matters.
In the glory days when HMs got warnings only when things were very very bad. Remember BB5 which I recently watched you have fight night which got massively out of control and various threats and arguments which BB left to continue. They interjected before any violence but let viewers make their own mind up.
Nowadays people are given tellings off about wasting food!!! Bear( who ok was annoying) but BB should not have scolded him over food. They also interject in arguments way before they should do and not let the confrontation get more involved. We have warnings after every ad break about aggressive confrontation and language so let them get on with it.
BB needs to go back to ch4!!!”

C4 don't want it at any price, which I feel is quite sensible of them
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