Originally Posted by vald:
“That was Tony and Simon. Colin's partner was called Barry.”
“That was Tony and Simon. Colin's partner was called Barry.”
Yep, that's it, I got confused.
EE: Episode Thread Thursday 08-09-16 RIP Paul, Hello Long Lost Albert Square Resident
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Loved grant punching Ian, especially after his comment about how he'd brought Courtney up! Ian can hardly talk - he's not exactly got the best track record!
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Aaron I think he's a great character and Ross in my opinion is a very capable actor
It's not always about how sexy someone is although he is that aswell
”
“Aaron I think he's a great character and Ross in my opinion is a very capable actor
It's not always about how sexy someone is although he is that aswell
”
I do like Ross Kemp and have watched and very much enjoyed some of his documentaries but I personally don't think he can act.
As for the character of Grant, he is only a low level thug like his brother with no redeemable features whatsoever. I have never liked or seen the value of the Mitchell brothers. I do appreciate he has somewhat garnered iconic status, that however does not change my opinion. They are both over-hyped and over-rated in my view, even if it's not the hip thing to say on here (with the exception of my mate Keyser) as they seem very popular on DS. I rarely dislike characters on EE but the Mitchells were burnt out by the mid nineties and it's just tedious now.
Originally Posted by S_Davidoff:
“It was better than Pam's! Dreadful actress & so is Les.”
“It was better than Pam's! Dreadful actress & so is Les.”
I disagree about it being better than Pam's but for me it was no worse than a lot of crying scenes you get in soaps.
Gillian is fine IMO. She was always an okay actress and nothing more. That hasn't changed. She does a convincing job on the whole and in her previous stint created a loved character who was part of several memorable storylines. Casting directors haven't stinted in hiring her to work on other shows so I take the 'worst acting ever' hyperbole type comments with a pinch of salt.
only watched tonight to see Colin.
The rest was usual standard. Average. An episode set around one of the fringe families.
The rest was usual standard. Average. An episode set around one of the fringe families.
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“I do like Ross Kemp and have watched and very much enjoyed some of his documentaries but I personally don't think he can act.
As for the character of Grant, he is only a low level thug like his brother with no redeemable features whatsoever. I have never liked or seen the value of the Mitchell brothers. I do appreciate he has somewhat garnered iconic status, that however does not change my opinion. They are both over-hyped and over-rated in my view, even if it's not the hip thing to say on here (with the exception of my mate Keyser) as they seem very popular on DS. I rarely dislike characters on EE but the Mitchells were burnt out by the mid nineties and it's just tedious now.”
“I do like Ross Kemp and have watched and very much enjoyed some of his documentaries but I personally don't think he can act.
As for the character of Grant, he is only a low level thug like his brother with no redeemable features whatsoever. I have never liked or seen the value of the Mitchell brothers. I do appreciate he has somewhat garnered iconic status, that however does not change my opinion. They are both over-hyped and over-rated in my view, even if it's not the hip thing to say on here (with the exception of my mate Keyser) as they seem very popular on DS. I rarely dislike characters on EE but the Mitchells were burnt out by the mid nineties and it's just tedious now.”
Ross Kemp may be limited as an actor but he does have charisma on screen. I love the Mitchell brothers. There can't be enough scenes between Phil and Grant for me. They are so much more interesting than irritants like Carmel.
0/10 Episode
10/10 MyLauren
0/10 MyCindy
Paul really wound me up this episode, lying about like that.
Who does that repulsive, evil McBeale bitch think she is moralising to anyone about how to raise kids? Her track record:
Drove Steven to shoot her.
Stuffed Lucy's corpse into a boot then flung her into a ditch.
Peter turned out to be a spineless impotent drug dealer with absolutely no friends.
Claimed Bob as her own and then turned him into a serial killer.
Tried to steal a baby from MyCindy and then drove her out of the country as punishment.
Mim is a shrewd and no nonsense woman - I've long thought that the decor in Pam's kitchen was awful and that someone should pull her up about it.
The only highlight is that we weren't subjected to yet another 15 minutes of bitter spiteful Denise bringing down the mood of any room she walks into.
Thanks.
10/10 MyLauren
0/10 MyCindy
Paul really wound me up this episode, lying about like that.
Who does that repulsive, evil McBeale bitch think she is moralising to anyone about how to raise kids? Her track record:
Drove Steven to shoot her.
Stuffed Lucy's corpse into a boot then flung her into a ditch.
Peter turned out to be a spineless impotent drug dealer with absolutely no friends.
Claimed Bob as her own and then turned him into a serial killer.
Tried to steal a baby from MyCindy and then drove her out of the country as punishment.
Mim is a shrewd and no nonsense woman - I've long thought that the decor in Pam's kitchen was awful and that someone should pull her up about it.
The only highlight is that we weren't subjected to yet another 15 minutes of bitter spiteful Denise bringing down the mood of any room she walks into.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Oh JB”
“Oh JB
”
JB needs another My***** cos poor MyCindy will be forever 0/10
p**** are for persons unknown yet to us or JB
Originally Posted by Krustylicious:
“JB needs another My***** cos poor MyCindy will be forever 0/10 p
**** are for persons unknown yet to us or JB”
“JB needs another My***** cos poor MyCindy will be forever 0/10
p**** are for persons unknown yet to us or JB
”
Don't say things like that, Krusts.
I was very surprised by Grant in tonights episode when he was talking to Ben about him being there at Pauls funeral
The old Grant would not say all that stuff, like him saying to Ben, Did you love Paul
Because im sure he was not that broadminded back then, as he is nowadays
The old Grant would not say all that stuff, like him saying to Ben, Did you love Paul
Because im sure he was not that broadminded back then, as he is nowadays
Originally Posted by J-B:
“Don't say things like that, Krusts.”
“Don't say things like that, Krusts.”
i know its sad .. Cindy Jr was cool and rebellious ..
Originally Posted by Krustylicious:
“i know its sad .. Cindy Jr was cool and rebellious ..”
“i know its sad .. Cindy Jr was cool and rebellious ..”
It's ok because the actress has Instagram and it's glorious
Originally Posted by Krustylicious:
“JB needs another My***** cos poor MyCindy will be forever 0/10 p
**** are for persons unknown yet to us or JB”
“JB needs another My***** cos poor MyCindy will be forever 0/10
p**** are for persons unknown yet to us or JB
”
Just wait until MyAnna Buring gets cast in EE - it'll get very confusing
Originally Posted by wildangel:
“Just wait until MyAnna Buring gets cast in EE - it'll get very confusing”
“Just wait until MyAnna Buring gets cast in EE - it'll get very confusing
”
Originally Posted by wildangel:
“Just wait until MyAnna Buring gets cast in EE - it'll get very confusing”
“Just wait until MyAnna Buring gets cast in EE - it'll get very confusing
”
why ? #confusedLook
Ian's glasses falling off when Grant punched him was one of the best things this year in Walford ! How didn't they break!?
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“I have to say this is the best it's been for a while. I am glad Grant is accepting and showed his softer side to Ben, and the chat with Jane. The scenes with him and Phil were brilliant too - no matter what your child is, you need to be there for them. I am happy Phil decided to attend Paul's funeral and support Ben. Lol @ Grant when he flipped when Mark and Courtney were about to kiss and punching Ian I do hope Mark and Grant can bond. Shirtless
Lin Blakeley and Roger Sloman were immense tonight and deserve some recognition for their role as grieving grandparents. I found it so sad when Pam kissed Paul goodnight. So heart-breaking, and the scenes where the carriage was leaving the Square were beautiful and touching. Dona and Claudette are good allies to the Cokers and I always like their scenes with them. The casting of Pam's sister Min is spot on - they're so alike with their personalities I am so sad they are going.
Sylvie doing the splits was gold A 70 year old woman puts us to shame! I do agree she needs to go in a home, and take Tina and Sonia with them. Dot - I can understand her objections of a gay wedding as she's from a different generation, but I do hope we see a bit more of Colin (he was my MEP when I lived in the Midlands until 2009 and he's my party!) - kind of a put Dot's mind at peace sort of thing.
I know it's SOC's first week, but he's getting the hang of it. I just hope he makes his mark in a good way with proper character driven storylines, not one family dominating.
10/10”
“I have to say this is the best it's been for a while. I am glad Grant is accepting and showed his softer side to Ben, and the chat with Jane. The scenes with him and Phil were brilliant too - no matter what your child is, you need to be there for them. I am happy Phil decided to attend Paul's funeral and support Ben. Lol @ Grant when he flipped when Mark and Courtney were about to kiss and punching Ian
I do hope Mark and Grant can bond. Shirtless Lin Blakeley and Roger Sloman were immense tonight and deserve some recognition for their role as grieving grandparents. I found it so sad when Pam kissed Paul goodnight. So heart-breaking, and the scenes where the carriage was leaving the Square were beautiful and touching. Dona and Claudette are good allies to the Cokers and I always like their scenes with them. The casting of Pam's sister Min is spot on - they're so alike with their personalities
I am so sad they are going.Sylvie doing the splits was gold
A 70 year old woman puts us to shame! I do agree she needs to go in a home, and take Tina and Sonia with them. Dot - I can understand her objections of a gay wedding as she's from a different generation, but I do hope we see a bit more of Colin (he was my MEP when I lived in the Midlands until 2009 and he's my party!) - kind of a put Dot's mind at peace sort of thing.I know it's SOC's first week, but he's getting the hang of it. I just hope he makes his mark in a good way with proper character driven storylines, not one family dominating.
10/10”
I echo your thoughts Neil. I thought it was a great episode, no better writer for the job.
I think it'll be a few weeks before we see any SOC influence.
Ross's acting has been alright in my opinion. It's the storylines that haven't been up to scratch. The Mark Jnr thing should have been left well alone. Even if I did like seeing him topless tonight. It should never have come out with Grant only popping back for a week here and there and Michelle not showing her face at all. Michelle writing that letter to Peggy undermines everything she was about.
The Ben/Jay kidnap plot was something else I could have lived without. It's awful that Paul's death has been used to prop up the Mitchells and show us them at their clichéd worst. This was not the right storyline to infuse with soapy sensationalism and it's not even as though the kidnap scenes had a dramatic pay off. I don't think I'll ever forget that scene of a grimacing Grant running at Paul's killers with a baseball bat but not for any positive reason. Pam and Les grieving for their grandson, the most affecting bit of the story, was sidelined.
Grant should have been back on the scene to make peace with his feelings for Sharon once and for all which were evident in the ep where Peggy died. Sharon has been really cold with him since. I can understand her not wanting a repeat of their near kiss but I really thought we'd get more exploration of their feelings for each other. Sharon did tell Jane that she was tempted to take things further. Peggy's death ep also hinted at a feud between Phil and Grant over money yet Grant has hardly mentioned Phil stealing his money since then.
There's been a few good scenes... one or two with Peggy, his cameo at the funeral, a couple with Courtney, tonight with Phil, and that one with Jane when they first saw each other again. These have stopped his return from being a total write off.
IMO the Mitchell family is bloated so if Grant's to return in any capacity I'd want it downsized considerably first. They can start by getting rid of Louise whose presence is diminishing Lisa as much as Kamil's is Zainab. My preference, rather than bitty appearances in daft storylines, would be for him to return full-time allowing for a Grant and Sharon reunion. They were a miles superior pairing to Phil and Sharon. I can't see Ross committing to that though.
It should never have come out with Grant only popping back for a week here and there and Michelle not showing her face at all. Michelle writing that letter to Peggy undermines everything she was about. The Ben/Jay kidnap plot was something else I could have lived without. It's awful that Paul's death has been used to prop up the Mitchells and show us them at their clichéd worst. This was not the right storyline to infuse with soapy sensationalism and it's not even as though the kidnap scenes had a dramatic pay off. I don't think I'll ever forget that scene of a grimacing Grant running at Paul's killers with a baseball bat but not for any positive reason. Pam and Les grieving for their grandson, the most affecting bit of the story, was sidelined.
Grant should have been back on the scene to make peace with his feelings for Sharon once and for all which were evident in the ep where Peggy died. Sharon has been really cold with him since. I can understand her not wanting a repeat of their near kiss but I really thought we'd get more exploration of their feelings for each other. Sharon did tell Jane that she was tempted to take things further. Peggy's death ep also hinted at a feud between Phil and Grant over money yet Grant has hardly mentioned Phil stealing his money since then.
There's been a few good scenes... one or two with Peggy, his cameo at the funeral, a couple with Courtney, tonight with Phil, and that one with Jane when they first saw each other again. These have stopped his return from being a total write off.
IMO the Mitchell family is bloated so if Grant's to return in any capacity I'd want it downsized considerably first. They can start by getting rid of Louise whose presence is diminishing Lisa as much as Kamil's is Zainab. My preference, rather than bitty appearances in daft storylines, would be for him to return full-time allowing for a Grant and Sharon reunion. They were a miles superior pairing to Phil and Sharon. I can't see Ross committing to that though.
Originally Posted by nick202:
“Shirtless Mark... Oh I say”
“Shirtless Mark... Oh I say”
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“What is it with topless guys in Eastenders?”
“What is it with topless guys in Eastenders?”
Gratuitous scenes for the young viewers
Originally Posted by wef0undl0ve:
“It's nice to see Grant being more accepting of Ben than Phil ever was”
“It's nice to see Grant being more accepting of Ben than Phil ever was”
If Ben was Grunt's son he would be the same as Philth
Originally Posted by RingoJ739K:
“No one gives a shit about Jay.
Sigh”
“No one gives a shit about Jay.
Sigh”
Grunt couldn't even find 3 seconds to let him out of the van
Originally Posted by nick202:
“Grant would be a much better dad for Ben than Phil”
“Grant would be a much better dad for Ben than Phil”
Like he's a great dad to Courtney ?
Originally Posted by TheGraduate2012:
“Why do soap characters always get a private room in hospital?”
“Why do soap characters always get a private room in hospital?”
BBC pays
Originally Posted by Krustylicious:
“Since when did grant become sensible ..”
“Since when did grant become sensible ..”
He hasn't.
Originally Posted by Matt35:
“So Ben went to the police to make a statement so what was the point of running away.”
“So Ben went to the police to make a statement so what was the point of running away.”
No point whatsoever
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“Why is Grant taking it out on them? Mark doesn't even know he's his dad.”
“Why is Grant taking it out on them? Mark doesn't even know he's his dad.”
and he shouldn't know
Originally Posted by Desert_Rain:
“Grant can't just handle things like a normal person can he.”
“Grant can't just handle things like a normal person can he.”
He's subnormal
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“Grant used to be horrible like that to Tiffany back in the day...well even worse
This is why Grant has never been a personal favourite of mine despite being a strong character. His treatment of Tiff was difficult to watch in the 90s.”
“Grant used to be horrible like that to Tiffany back in the day...well even worse
This is why Grant has never been a personal favourite of mine despite being a strong character. His treatment of Tiff was difficult to watch in the 90s.”
He chased her to her death
Originally Posted by Hayley_baby:
“When grant saw them almost kiss that was the moment to say courtney hes your brother.”
“When grant saw them almost kiss that was the moment to say courtney hes your brother.”
Wrong. Courtney should be told privately
Originally Posted by TheGraduate2012:
“Surely Paul is a skeleton by now?”
“Surely Paul is a skeleton by now?”
He's been in the fridge
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“Are they using a prosthetic for Paul's body?”
“Are they using a prosthetic for Paul's body?”
Nope. The actor is alive and well
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“If you've got it, flaunt it
For a man in his early 50s, he's very handsome.”
“If you've got it, flaunt it
For a man in his early 50s, he's very handsome.”
But what about the piggy eyes ?
Originally Posted by MR_Pitkin:
“Grant is acting the pants off everyone in sight in this episode.”
“Grant is acting the pants off everyone in sight in this episode.”
You cannot be serious
Originally Posted by TheGraduate2012:
“What happened to Paul's mum then?”
“What happened to Paul's mum then?”
Totally forgotten about
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Oh Colin it's been so long! Wow!”
“Oh Colin it's been so long! Wow!”
He was my MEP
Originally Posted by Yoshi Fan:
“I suspect Grant will end up walking away without saying anything.”
“I suspect Grant will end up walking away without saying anything.”
Only because he forgets his lines
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“Jane should've left well alone.
Mark finding this out will turn his life upside down. He's done nothing to deserve that. Michelle was wrong to keep it a secret in the first place but you could hardly blame her the way Grant was/is.”
“Jane should've left well alone.
Mark finding this out will turn his life upside down. He's done nothing to deserve that. Michelle was wrong to keep it a secret in the first place but you could hardly blame her the way Grant was/is.”
Post of the thread runner up
Originally Posted by loco_loca:
“Mark has every right to find out Grant is his father. Keeping it a secret is more about protecting Michelle as she is the one who will have to answer for her lies.”
“Mark has every right to find out Grant is his father. Keeping it a secret is more about protecting Michelle as she is the one who will have to answer for her lies.”
I totally disagree.
Originally Posted by jamesc_715:
“I hope Grant doesn't tell Mark tomorrow and Mark already has a dad in USA. Grant would ruin his life in future, in my opinion.
Lin Blakely was the standout star tonight and I'm saddened the Cokers are leaving soon.
7/10
”
“I hope Grant doesn't tell Mark tomorrow and Mark already has a dad in USA. Grant would ruin his life in future, in my opinion.
Lin Blakely was the standout star tonight and I'm saddened the Cokers are leaving soon.
7/10
”
More good posting
Originally Posted by danlrwilliams:
“Roger Sloman doesn't receive enough praise, I held it together but it was the scene as he walked the car out that caught me off guard. Just how he tried so hard to hold his emotions together as he proceeded. ”
“Roger Sloman doesn't receive enough praise, I held it together but it was the scene as he walked the car out that caught me off guard. Just how he tried so hard to hold his emotions together as he proceeded. ”
He will have a long walk to the Crem
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“I do like Ross Kemp and have watched and very much enjoyed some of his documentaries but I personally don't think he can act. ”
“I do like Ross Kemp and have watched and very much enjoyed some of his documentaries but I personally don't think he can act. ”
That's why he doesn't act
Quote:
“As for the character of Grant, he is only a low level thug like his brother with no redeemable features whatsoever. I have never liked or seen the value of the Mitchell brothers. I do appreciate he has somewhat garnered iconic status, that however does not change my opinion. They are both over-hyped and over-rated in my view, even if it's not the hip thing to say on here (with the exception of my mate Keyser) as they seem very popular on DS. I rarely dislike characters on EE but the Mitchells were burnt out by the mid nineties and it's just tedious now.”
“As for the character of Grant, he is only a low level thug like his brother with no redeemable features whatsoever. I have never liked or seen the value of the Mitchell brothers. I do appreciate he has somewhat garnered iconic status, that however does not change my opinion. They are both over-hyped and over-rated in my view, even if it's not the hip thing to say on here (with the exception of my mate Keyser) as they seem very popular on DS. I rarely dislike characters on EE but the Mitchells were burnt out by the mid nineties and it's just tedious now.”
Post of the thread
Originally Posted by wildangel:
“Just wait until MyAnna Buring gets cast in EE - it'll get very confusing”
“Just wait until MyAnna Buring gets cast in EE - it'll get very confusing
”
Hahaha love this
Good episode, but I'm a bit sad that the whole Nark Jr secret is basically out now. I'm not saying it shouldn"t have been revealed, but for so long we were waiting for it to happen and now we can't look forward to it. Does that even make sense?
Plus the small Grant returns have been really annoying. Wish he just came back for a month or two. I literally can't even remember what happened in the second return!
Plus the small Grant returns have been really annoying. Wish he just came back for a month or two. I literally can't even remember what happened in the second return!
Originally Posted by RingoJ739K:
“No one gives a shit about Jay.
Sigh”
“No one gives a shit about Jay.
Sigh”
That's the thing which really makes me angry. It's spoiling my interest in all the things that are going on with the Mitchells right now. How can Ben, of all people, not get Phil and Grant to do something? 😡
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