http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/celebri...biggins-after/

Did producers forget to gag this contestant?

Somebody please shut her up!

Go back to obscurity Katie, where you belong.

"I certainly don't want to sit down with someone who excuses making anti-Semitic jokes by saying they are friends with Lesley Joseph."

Great quote from Katie.

Katie just needs to go away,no one is interested.

Okay I've not lived in the UK for a few years now so I'd never heard of her before, was she EVER particularly famous?

Not really, no.

Not for the first time, my heart aches a little for poor Katie. She has no clue who she is, or who she wants to be, she doesn't know what she thinks, she has no conviction in what she is saying. She just vaguely wants to be famous but she has nothing to offer.

Biggins has smelt blood, and amazingly he feels confident enough to attack her despite some of the things he said in the house - things which got him ejected. She would never dare go on telly with him - he would make mincemeat of her and show her up for what she is

She is really not cut out for any of this. She lacks any charisma or charm and unfortunately is not intelligent enough to handle this in the right way. Poor Katie.

Car crash reality loser who couldn't sing but made it to the quater finals of X factor, so no she wasn't although she likes to think she is

To be fair, his joke was offensive and in bad taste. She is within her rights to be upset over it, even if she does seem to be milking it for the media a bit. It does puzzle me though why people are so keen to absolve Biggins over this.

Just to add, after controversially being put through at judges houses (while more talented singers went home) despite not being able to make it through the song and turning on the waterworks.

Because making a "mistake" and apologising for it is preferable to holding a grudge and exploiting the situation.

How Biggins made such a faux pas is beyond me. It's pure celebrity 101 - say what you like in the privacy of your own home, but otherwise, be on your guard. Always.

But a holocaust joke in the BB house? He's losing it.

But of course he apologised for it! What was the alternative? Standing by it?

There's absolutely nothing admirable about his apology - as the alternative was professional suicide, the apology was entirely self-serving.

Celebrity 101 don't say anything ever as someone could be listening.

I honestly don't see the problem with a holocaust joke. I really don't.
People were joking about Hitler and the nazis for a very long time, right up until only recently. As for some reason it might apparently upset some people now when it wouldn't have been such a problem about 5 years ago.

Exactly. As much of Big Brother (the book) was based on the third reich, it appears to be timely and black humour.

PC Brigade at its finest.

Surely it depends on the joke.

If Biggins said what the article claims, it was a very questionable comment, especially when said to someone who's Jewish; and if it's a "joke", it's not the sort of joke that must be ok just because it's a joke.

I think in this context we need to identify what is funny and acceptable versus non funny
and non acceptable.

I think all jokes are making fun of a certain party, present or not.

They share a common theme in targeting the person not there and a shared laugh.

Well it's a debatable issue - that's the point.

From Biggins' POV, he's on a TV show which he probably would have liked to win. His every word is scrutinised. Presumably he hopes to help his career along by appearing, or at the very least, to pick up a healthy cheque at the end.

I would say that this is not the best time to be experimenting with public opinion to see if he can get away with a holocaust joke. It is definitely a joke that would cause offence to some people - so simply steer clear, and don't offend anyone!

What's been said is over with now & there's no going back so Katie should drop it now & stop milking it.

He was making a joke of the situation and the environment. It was meant to be an extreme comparison. That was the joke. No good comparing the situation to a something which is just little bit worse otherwise that would be a very weak joke.
He wasn't even having a go at Katie, he was having a joke with her, not at her expense. It was one of those very British jokes where you make light of a bad experience by making it a shared experience.

At the time Katie didn't even bat an eyelash. NOW she's offended because she's got the idea that she ought to be offended by other people making a meal of it. You don't decide to be offended retrospectively because you think that you ought to be offended. You were either offended when the joke was made or you weren't.

I think Katie needs some aversion therapy and her prescription is to go to a Jerry Sadowitz or Doug Stanhope comedy gig. That should cure her and she'll be as right as rain after that.

Why should the person making a joke conform to the will of the person who feels offended? Why shouldn't the person who feels offended conform to the belief that the person making the joke has a right to make the joke?
While a person may feel offended they have the option of choosing to avoid that person in the future and not watch them when they appear on other TV programmes.

We all go through life being offended by a multitude of things. There's no such thing as a perfect life where nobody is offended. It's a natural emotion. When it gets to the point where society thinks that it has a duty to protect the people from their own emotions by taking punitive measures against anyone who offends their sensibilities then I think that we have a serious problem going on.
It's a ludicrous situation where legislative measures are taken against people because other people believe that they have a right to not be offended.
But it's worse, certain people with authority are actually taking preemptive measures against people because somebody else MIGHT be offended.
It's ludicrous. And a bit scary.

I have found certain contestants on Big Brother before very unlikable and I found some of their actions offensive. But I didn't complain to Ofcom or call for them to be punished. I just decided that I didn't like them, and that's pretty much that. You hope that the vote will get rid of them. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. However, they have the right to be an absolute c**t. It's not my business to try to get them into trouble or ruin their life. If I did that then I would be doing a disservice to myself.

We don't know that as we were never shown it, anymore than we know about Sam's eye after Bear's prank went wrong.

But they didn't know why he was thrown out, even Katie said that until she heard the outcry of people outside then lept on the bandwagon.

Even if she was deeply offended by his comment, she wouldn't necessarily know, when he was ejected days later, that it was connected.

Also, he wasn't thrown out for that singular comment. I thought he was ejected for having made several comments about varying things.